Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

2018-01-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz 
It does not hurt to ask.. 
Depends on a few factors... 
So running bfd with IP transit providers is available upon request. 
In an IXP peering situation, I am not sure what is the pro's and con's .. maybe 
someone else can chime in . 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:22:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

> Is this typical in a public peering setup? I mean do providers want to run BFD
> towards their customers?

> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
> wrote:

>> BTW... just FYI...

>> If you are able to have a working bfd option available, that is always the 
>> best
>> option, it is one of the fastest link drop change detection available,
>> regardless of what the protocol timers are set for.

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net

>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Adair Winter" < ada...@amarillowireless.net >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:42:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

>>> Thanks for the info.
>>> Being that our circuit has been stable, I'm not worried about flapping. If 
>>> it
>>> does go nuts some day I would just take the peer down until we resolve 
>>> whatever
>>> is going on.
>>> But three minutes feels like a long time to wait for the peer to drop while
>>> traffic is just slamming in to a dead route.

>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess < dmburg...@linktechs.net >
>>> wrote:

>>>> Yep, we change it to 10 and 30. The only issue you can have is if you flap 
>>>> but I
>>>> have not had that issue as of yet.

>>>> Dennis Burgess

>>>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net

>>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:03 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

>>>> Does anyone ever modify the default bgp keep-alive and hold timers in 
>>>> order to
>>>> facilitate a faster fail over time when peer drops?

>>>> Waiting the default three minutes seems like a very long time.

>>>> --

>>>> Adair Winter
>>>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>>>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
>>>> C: 806.231.7180
>>>> http://www.amarillowireless.net

>>> --

>>> Adair Winter
>>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
>>> C: 806.231.7180
>>> http://www.amarillowireless.net

> --

> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
> C: 806.231.7180
> http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

2018-01-25 Thread Adair Winter 
Is this typical in a public peering setup? I mean do providers want to run
BFD towards their customers?

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> BTW... just FYI...
>
> If you are able to have a working bfd option available, that is always the
> best option, it is one of the fastest link drop change detection available,
> regardless of what the protocol timers are set for.
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:42:11 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers
>
> Thanks for the info.
> Being that our circuit has been stable, I'm not worried about flapping. If
> it does go nuts some day I would just take the peer down until we resolve
> whatever is going on.
> But three minutes feels like a long time to wait for the peer to drop
> while traffic is just slamming in to a dead route.
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, we change it to 10 and 30.  The only issue you can have is if you
>> flap but I have not had that issue as of yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess
>>
>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <(314)%20735-0270> –
>> dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adair Winter
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:03 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Timers
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone ever modify the default bgp keep-alive and hold timers in
>> order to facilitate a faster fail over time when peer drops?
>>
>> Waiting the default three minutes seems like a very long time.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
>> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net
>> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> <http://www.amarillowireless.net>
>
>
>
>


-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
<http://www.amarillowireless.net>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

2018-01-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz 
BTW... just FYI... 

If you are able to have a working bfd option available, that is always the best 
option, it is one of the fastest link drop change detection available, 
regardless of what the protocol timers are set for. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:42:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

> Thanks for the info.
> Being that our circuit has been stable, I'm not worried about flapping. If it
> does go nuts some day I would just take the peer down until we resolve 
> whatever
> is going on.
> But three minutes feels like a long time to wait for the peer to drop while
> traffic is just slamming in to a dead route.

> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess < dmburg...@linktechs.net >
> wrote:

>> Yep, we change it to 10 and 30. The only issue you can have is if you flap 
>> but I
>> have not had that issue as of yet.

>> Dennis Burgess

>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net

>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:03 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

>> Does anyone ever modify the default bgp keep-alive and hold timers in order 
>> to
>> facilitate a faster fail over time when peer drops?

>> Waiting the default three minutes seems like a very long time.

>> --

>> Adair Winter
>> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
>> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
>> C: 806.231.7180
>> http://www.amarillowireless.net

> --

> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
> C: 806.231.7180
> http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

2018-01-25 Thread Adair Winter 
Thanks for the info.
Being that our circuit has been stable, I'm not worried about flapping. If
it does go nuts some day I would just take the peer down until we resolve
whatever is going on.
But three minutes feels like a long time to wait for the peer to drop while
traffic is just slamming in to a dead route.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Dennis Burgess 
wrote:

> Yep, we change it to 10 and 30.  The only issue you can have is if you
> flap but I have not had that issue as of yet.
>
>
>
> Dennis Burgess
>
> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 <(314)%20735-0270> –
> dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adair Winter
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:03 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] BGP Timers
>
>
>
> Does anyone ever modify the default bgp keep-alive and hold timers in
> order to facilitate a faster fail over time when peer drops?
>
> Waiting the default three minutes seems like a very long time.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Adair Winter
> VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
> Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 <(806)%20316-5071>
> C: 806.231.7180 <(806)%20231-7180>
> http://www.amarillowireless.net
> 
>
>
>



-- 

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

2018-01-25 Thread Dennis Burgess 
Yep, we change it to 10 and 30.  The only issue you can have is if you flap but 
I have not had that issue as of yet.

Dennis Burgess
www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – 
dmburg...@linktechs.net

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adair Winter
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Timers

Does anyone ever modify the default bgp keep-alive and hold timers in order to 
facilitate a faster fail over time when peer drops?
Waiting the default three minutes seems like a very long time.

--

Adair Winter
VP, Network Operations / Co-Owner
Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071
C: 806.231.7180
http://www.amarillowireless.net
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