Nice!

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Done!
>
> http://www.afmug.com/
>
>
> This is the best cult this side of Waco...
>
> A new slogan for AF!!!
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>
> It works fine here. Problem free(ish). Those that want to donate can cover
> the costs. Pauls been very reliable, and never needs a snickers so little
> to no risk of an "i quit"
>
> Id say we should just have a swear jar, but i dont have that kind of money.
>
> One option would be to stick half the fund drive into something with
> crypto coin shennanigans, cash out 1/2 biannually. But then taxes
> somewhere...
>
> Having it third party hosted in the manner that it is keeps the list
> outside any individuals attitude, which is pretty good idea. Sure paul can
> cancel an account, but he cant just power down a vm, throttle a connection,
> not feel like dealing with a blacklist issue, withdraw vm host resources,
> etc, not that i think he would.
>
> Not directed at you mike, just a generalization.
>
> Maybe pimp some friday spam access to some non list member vendors for a
> fee, but we all know, once they come see this place, theyll join up. This
> is the best cult this side of waco.
>
> On Feb 18, 2018 5:10 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> These guys:
>> https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/
>> advertise they can do it for $3/month.
>>
>> Perhaps they can.  I just don’t want to make a change I will regret.  And
>> I do not want to have to personally be the mechanic.
>>
>> *From:* Ryan Ray
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:02 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>>
>> I agree. Toss some money at him, I'm sure we can spare it
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep... this always comes up. I think the consensus has always been that
>>> it's easier for those of us who are willing, to just chip in occasionally
>>> and keep it as is, then to mess with what's been working well.
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2018 1:36 PM, "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seems like this same conversation came up last year.   Folks, if you
>>>> don't want to pay, propose doing the work.   Seems like it's well worth 100
>>>> bucks for the enjoyment I get out of it.  I pay way more than that for
>>>> things way less enjoyable, but necessary to keep peace at home...
>>>>
>>>> On 02/18/2018 11:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then is a pledge drive needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Blacklists are the recipients problems. Not the mailing list owners
>>>>> problem - as long as nothing shady is going on.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:15, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:
>>>>> af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Those that run the list are happy to pay for not dealing with
>>>>>> blacklists, etc. whatever SES provides.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>>>>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>>>>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com
>>>>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:
>>>>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:12:56 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is SES?  Amazon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That seems overkill for a mailing list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:
>>>>>> af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     SES
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>>     Mike Hammett
>>>>>>     Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>>     <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+In
>>>>>> telligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/
>>>>>> company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>     Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>>     <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com
>>>>>> /company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>     The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>>     <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>     *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>     <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
>>>>>>     *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>>     *Sent: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:05:36 PM
>>>>>>     *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Support of what???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     What the heck costs that much?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Mailman takes all of 10 minutes to install and just lives after
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:52, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com
>>>>>>     <mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year
>>>>>>         including support, $1800 not including support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes
>>>>>>         <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
>>>>>>         <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Can it really be more than $5????
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take
>>>>>>             when virtualized?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John
>>>>>>             <keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate
>>>>>>                 this list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown
>>>>>>                 <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     I notice it has been a while since we pushed a
>>>>>> bit to help fund the
>>>>>>                     not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this
>>>>>> list alive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal
>>>>>> the revenue created to
>>>>>>                     pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                     Paul, what is the current status of our deficit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 --                 Sent from my Android device with
>>>>>> K-9 Mail. Please
>>>>>>                 excuse my brevity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
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