Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Josh Reynolds]

I had a different model rhyno that I loved. Brother ptouch industrial also
has a few good ones.

On Dec 28, 2017 5:01 PM, "Jason Wilson"  wrote:

> This is what I use for my tower sites. http://www.dymo.com/en-
> US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-
> labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in
>
> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-
> cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker
>
> It will layout labels for just about any  rack, power panel you name it.
> It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the
> weather so far.
>
>
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes
>> through conduit at well sites
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>>> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot
>>> of running back and forth.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>>
 I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
 termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
 don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
 which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
 bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
 and horizontal lines with a sharpie.


 On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

 I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together,
 but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner
 to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
 especially when they're getting manhandled.


 bp
 


 On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

 Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as
 fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells
 you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is
 how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each
 end and start toning and punching each end as they go.

 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time
> for SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for
> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat 
> shrink
> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
> necessary..
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend
> -10-Pack-44-103/100118633
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> Here you go... several ways to get it done..
>
> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December
>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
>> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before
>> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going 
>> to
>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored
>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is 
>> writing
>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Timothy Steele]

Fine tip marker is really the best

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017, 8:53 PM George Skorup 
wrote:

> For office/structure wiring, simple electrical wire number markers work
> fine. The kind you can get in booklets or on a dispenser like this:
> https://www.zoro.com/3m-wire-marker-tape-wdispenser-preprintd-std-0-9/i/G3472226/
> They're cheap enough to put two sets of numbers 3-5 feet apart at the ends
> in case you need to trim excess. Or one set and re-mark after you trim,
> punch down, terminate, whatever.
>
> I've had a Dymo 5200 for years now. It's great for tower cables, patch
> panels and all kinds of stuff. I put a "GPS" label on SyncPipes at sites
> using the vinyl industrial tape. Been there for years and none have faded
> or blown away. For cable labels, you want the 3/4" tape since it prints
> across the width. The problem I have with the shrink tube label is that we
> often mark what's what after we terminate and plug things in, so you'd need
> at least 1/2" to fit over an RJ45.
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 7:32 PM, Jeremy wrote:
>
> For temporary labeling we use colored electrical tape
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:
>
>> This is what I use for my tower sites.
>> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in
>>
>>
>> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker
>>
>> It will layout labels for just about any  rack, power panel you name it.
>> It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the
>> weather so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes
>>> through conduit at well sites
>>>
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a
 lot of running back and forth.

 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
> bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
> and horizontal lines with a sharpie.
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together,
> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a 
> toner
> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
> especially when they're getting manhandled.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as
> fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells
> you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is
> how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each
> end and start toning and punching each end as they go.
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time
>> for SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire 
>> for
>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat 
>> shrink
>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
>> necessary..
>>
>>
>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here you go... several ways to get it done..
>>
>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
>>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
>>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December
>>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
>>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
>>> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled 
>>> before
>>> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going 
>>> to
>>> get cut 

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[George Skorup]

For office/structure wiring, simple electrical wire number markers work 
fine. The kind you can get in booklets or on a dispenser like this: 
https://www.zoro.com/3m-wire-marker-tape-wdispenser-preprintd-std-0-9/i/G3472226/ 
They're cheap enough to put two sets of numbers 3-5 feet apart at the 
ends in case you need to trim excess. Or one set and re-mark after you 
trim, punch down, terminate, whatever.


I've had a Dymo 5200 for years now. It's great for tower cables, patch 
panels and all kinds of stuff. I put a "GPS" label on SyncPipes at sites 
using the vinyl industrial tape. Been there for years and none have 
faded or blown away. For cable labels, you want the 3/4" tape since it 
prints across the width. The problem I have with the shrink tube label 
is that we often mark what's what after we terminate and plug things in, 
so you'd need at least 1/2" to fit over an RJ45.


On 12/28/2017 7:32 PM, Jeremy wrote:

For temporary labeling we use colored electrical tape

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jason Wilson 
> wrote:


This is what I use for my tower sites.

http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in





http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker



It will layout labels for just about any rack, power panel you
name it. It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have
lasted 2 years in the weather so far.



On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
> wrote:

The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of
wiring goes through conduit at well sites


Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman"
> wrote:

I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner
there is a lot of running back and forth.

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke
> wrote:

I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to
be doing all the termination by myself, so that
involves alot of running back and forth.  I don't have
that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco
one, which always seems to be able to narrow it down
to about 4 cables in the bundle that all tone
equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
and horizontal lines with a sharpie.


On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad
groups together, but we don't worry about individual
cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to figure out
which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers
smear, especially when they're getting manhandled.


bp


On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after.
Seems just as fast. We have a Fluke cable tester
that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you which
one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I
think that is how it works. Even if not toning is
pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end and start
toning and punching each end as they go.

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza
> wrote:

These are the ones I use on panels and end
devices most of the time for SCADA projects.
Electricians use them as well when they pull
wire for us...once tested and certified, we make
our heat shrink and non heat shrink Brady ID
labels never remove the original ones.  We
reposition if necessary..


https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633



Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
> wrote:

 

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Jeremy]

For temporary labeling we use colored electrical tape

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Jason Wilson 
wrote:

> This is what I use for my tower sites. http://www.dymo.com/en-
> US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-
> labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in
>
> http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-
> cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker
>
> It will layout labels for just about any  rack, power panel you name it.
> It was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the
> weather so far.
>
>
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes
>> through conduit at well sites
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>>
>>> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot
>>> of running back and forth.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>>
 I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
 termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
 don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
 which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
 bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
 and horizontal lines with a sharpie.


 On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

 I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together,
 but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner
 to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
 especially when they're getting manhandled.


 bp
 


 On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

 Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as
 fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells
 you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is
 how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each
 end and start toning and punching each end as they go.

 On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time
> for SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for
> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat 
> shrink
> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
> necessary..
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend
> -10-Pack-44-103/100118633
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> Here you go... several ways to get it done..
>
> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December
>> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
>> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before
>> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going 
>> to
>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored
>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is 
>> writing
>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Jason Wilson]

This is what I use for my tower sites.
http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/ind-heat-shrink-tube-3-8-in

http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-labeling-needs/wire-cable-labeling/wire-cable-labeling/rhino-industrial-5200-label-maker

It will layout labels for just about any  rack, power panel you name it. It
was worth the price. The heat shrink labels have lasted 2 years in the
weather so far.



On Dec 28, 2017 10:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes
> through conduit at well sites
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot
>> of running back and forth.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
>>> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
>>> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
>>> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
>>> bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
>>> and horizontal lines with a sharpie.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together,
>>> but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner
>>> to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
>>> especially when they're getting manhandled.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast.
>>> We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you
>>> which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how
>>> it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end
>>> and start toning and punching each end as they go.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for
 SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for
 us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink
 Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
 necessary..

 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend
 -10-Pack-44-103/100118633

 Jaime Solorza

 On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
 wrote:

 Here you go... several ways to get it done..

 https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
 Jaime Solorza

 On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:

> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>
> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December
> 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before
> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going to
> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored
> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is writing
> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
>


>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Jaime Solorza]

The markers I use from Home Depot hold up verymost of wiring goes
through conduit at well sites


Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 9:31 AM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot
> of running back and forth.
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
>> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
>> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
>> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
>> bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
>> and horizontal lines with a sharpie.
>>
>>
>> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>
>> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, but
>> we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to
>> figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
>> especially when they're getting manhandled.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast.
>> We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you
>> which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how
>> it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end
>> and start toning and punching each end as they go.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for
>>> SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for
>>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink
>>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
>>> necessary..
>>>
>>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-
>>> Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here you go... several ways to get it done..
>>>
>>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
 You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
 Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13

 -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December
 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
 I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
 drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before
 they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going to
 get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored
 tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is writing
 the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?

>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Lewis Bergman]

I could ship you mine but your right, Without an ID toner there is a lot of
running back and forth.

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 10:25 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the
> termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I
> don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one,
> which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the
> bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical
> and horizontal lines with a sharpie.
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, but
> we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to
> figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear,
> especially when they're getting manhandled.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast.
> We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you
> which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how
> it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end
> and start toning and punching each end as they go.
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for
>> SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for
>> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink
>> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
>> necessary..
>>
>>
>> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here you go... several ways to get it done..
>>
>> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
>>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
>>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28,
>>> 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
>>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
>>> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before
>>> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going to
>>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored
>>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is writing
>>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[chuck]

Perhaps some kind of capacitive clothespin clip that could induce a tone on a 
wire without contacting the wires.  I wonder if I could jam enough signal into 
an open ended cable like that to be able to ID it in a bundle

From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the 
termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  I 
don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, which 
always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the bundle that 
all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe vertical and horizontal 
lines with a sharpie.


On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

  I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, but we 
don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a toner to figure 
out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers smear, especially when 
they're getting manhandled.




bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. We 
have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you which one 
you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how it works. Even 
if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end and start toning and 
punching each end as they go.

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for 
SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for 
us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink 
Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if necessary.. 

  
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633

  Jaime Solorza

  On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Here you go... several ways to get it done.. 

https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.  
  You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
  Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13

  -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 
28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling 
  I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 
drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they 
are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut 
off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored tape could 
work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is writing the drop number 
on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Nate Burke]

I like the fast pull plan, but I'm probably going to be doing all the 
termination by myself, so that involves alot of running back and forth.  
I don't have that fancy of a toner, just a simple (and cheap) telco one, 
which always seems to be able to narrow it down to about 4 cables in the 
bundle that all tone equally.  I like Chuck's Binary idea, maybe 
vertical and horizontal lines with a sharpie.


On 12/28/2017 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:


I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, 
but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a 
toner to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers 
smear, especially when they're getting manhandled.



bp


On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as 
fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe 
tells you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I 
think that is how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We 
put a guy on each end and start toning and punching each end as they go.


On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:


These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the
time for SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they
pull wire for us...once tested and certified, we make our heat
shrink and non heat shrink Brady ID labels never remove the
original ones.  We reposition if necessary..


https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
> wrote:

Here you go... several ways to get it done..

https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, > wrote:

Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent:
Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space,
about 40 drops.  What's the best way to label the cables
as they are pulled before they are dressed/punched. 
Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut
off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. 
Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the

combinations.  Is writing the drop number on the jacket
with a Sharpie the best way?

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Bill Prince]

I'm with Lewis on this one. We do bundle duplex/quad groups together, 
but we don't worry about individual cables. We use the ID plugs and a 
toner to figure out which one is which. Labels fall off, and markers 
smear, especially when they're getting manhandled.



bp


On 12/28/2017 7:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as 
fast. We have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe 
tells you which one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I 
think that is how it works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We 
put a guy on each end and start toning and punching each end as they go.


On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:


These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the
time for SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they
pull wire for us...once tested and certified, we make our heat
shrink and non heat shrink Brady ID labels never remove the
original ones.  We reposition if necessary..


https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
> wrote:

Here you go... several ways to get it done..

https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM, > wrote:

Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13

-Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent:
Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space,
about 40 drops.  What's the best way to label the cables
as they are pulled before they are dressed/punched. 
Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut
off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful. 
Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the
combinations.  Is writing the drop number on the jacket
with a Sharpie the best way?

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Lewis Bergman]

Honestly, we just pull them all and tone them after. Seems just as fast. We
have a Fluke cable tester that has 8 ID plugs and the probe tells you which
one you touch so you can do 8 at once. At least I think that is how it
works. Even if not toning is pretty fast way. We put a guy on each end and
start toning and punching each end as they go.

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for
> SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for
> us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink
> Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
> necessary..
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> Here you go... several ways to get it done..
>
> https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
>> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
>> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28,
>> 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
>> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40
>> drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before
>> they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going to
>> get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored
>> tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is writing
>> the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Jaime Solorza]

These are the ones I use on panels and end devices most of the time for
SCADA projects.  Electricians use them as well when they pull wire for
us...once tested and certified, we make our heat shrink and non heat shrink
Brady ID labels never remove the original ones.  We reposition if
necessary..

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Wire-Marker-Booklet-Legend-10-Pack-44-103/100118633
Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

Here you go... several ways to get it done..

https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:

> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>
> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28,
> 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops.
> What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are
> dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut
> off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored tape
> could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is writing the
> drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[Jaime Solorza]

Here you go... several ways to get it done..

https://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-identification/
Jaime Solorza

On Dec 28, 2017 8:12 AM,  wrote:

> Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.
> You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
> Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13
>
> -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, December 28,
> 2017 8:06 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling
> I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 drops.
> What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled before they are
> dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's going to get cut
> off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems wasteful.  Colored tape
> could work, but may get cumbersome with the combinations.  Is writing the
> drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie the best way?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling

[chuck]

Sharpie works but is difficult to do well and rubs off.  


You could use strips of tape and sharpie to do a binary code.
Tape, tape, sharpie, tape = 13

-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:06 AM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Office Wire labeling 

I'm getting ready to pull some Cat5 into an office space, about 40 
drops.  What's the best way to label the cables as they are pulled 
before they are dressed/punched.  Printing a label for each cable that's 
going to get cut off as it's dressed into the patch panel seems 
wasteful.  Colored tape could work, but may get cumbersome with the 
combinations.  Is writing the drop number on the jacket with a Sharpie 
the best way?