Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-03 Thread Jason McKemie
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 *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A
 Fiberport?

 I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the
 airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber
 on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP
 on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the
 airFiber.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie 
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');
 wrote:

  It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port...

 On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com'); wrote:

  I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I
 don’t think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the
 engineering, mold work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!








Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
WaveSpan used fiber from IDU to ODU over 10 yrs ago and FD FHSS to boot.

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 2, 2015 6:16 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:

 in my 5+ years trying to get UBNT to do somthing I Found they ignor you
 until you have a survay with 200+ people saying they want it..

 You Can track 365 Radios, VLAN Support, MIB Support,  Many others back to
 Survays Started on the forum

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I've told them after each product release, multiple times on the forum
 and mailing lists. I highlighted the last blazing example.

 We'll see what happens...



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 6:56:33 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?

 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team

 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT

 Thanks!





Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I've told them after each product release, multiple times on the forum and 
mailing lists. I highlighted the last blazing example. 

We'll see what happens... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 6:56:33 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? 


posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should 
UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team 


https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT 



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Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Peter Kranz
I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think 
they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, 
etc… 

 

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
 mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

 

posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should 
UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team

 

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread timothy steele
That is what the Survay is for if enough Wanted it then they can see if its
worth it or not got 13 yes 0 no in the first 5min of the survay we will see
what happens

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t
 think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold
 work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!



Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Put it on all AFs for starters. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 7:24:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? 



I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think 
they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, 
etc… 

Peter Kranz 
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd 
www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
Mobile: 510-207- 
pkr...@unwiredltd.com 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? 


posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should 
UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team 



https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT 



Thanks! 


Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread timothy steele
in my 5+ years trying to get UBNT to do somthing I Found they ignor you
until you have a survay with 200+ people saying they want it..

You Can track 365 Radios, VLAN Support, MIB Support,  Many others back to
Survays Started on the forum

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I've told them after each product release, multiple times on the forum and
 mailing lists. I highlighted the last blazing example.

 We'll see what happens...



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 6:56:33 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?

 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team

 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT

 Thanks!




Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread timothy steele
Yep..



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On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Sorry, survey
 On Feb 2, 2015 7:27 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is what the Survay is for if enough Wanted it then they can see if
 its worth it or not got 13 yes 0 no in the first 5min of the survay we will
 see what happens

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t
 think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold
 work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!




Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread That One Guy
Sorry, survey
On Feb 2, 2015 7:27 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is what the Survay is for if enough Wanted it then they can see if
 its worth it or not got 13 yes 0 no in the first 5min of the survay we will
 see what happens

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t
 think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold
 work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!





Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread timothy steele
Up to 31 yes

10 only in airfiber family

5 other 4 yes 1 no



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On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Agreed. 
 - 
 Mike Hammett 
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 http://www.ics-il.com 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com 
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 8:26:55 PM 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber 
 port? 
 ...that and direct DC contacts. 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jeremy  jeremysmi...@gmail.com  wrote: 
 At minimum all AFs should have it. That was one of my requests for 'what do 
 you want to see from UBNT in 2015?' on their forums. 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:40 PM, timothy steele  timothy.pct...@gmail.com  
 wrote: 
 blockquote
 Yep.. 
 — 
 Sent from Mailbox 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, That One Guy  thatoneguyst...@gmail.com  
 wrote: 
 blockquote
 Sorry, survey 
 On Feb 2, 2015 7:27 PM, timothy steele  timothy.pct...@gmail.com  wrote: 
 blockquote
 That is what the Survay is for if enough Wanted it then they can see if its 
 worth it or not got 13 yes 0 no in the first 5min of the survay we will see 
 what happens 
 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Peter Kranz  pkr...@unwiredltd.com  wrote: 
 blockquote
 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think 
 they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, 
 etc… 
 Peter Kranz 
 Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd 
 www.UnwiredLtd.com 
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
 Mobile: 510-207- 
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
 From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of timothy steele 
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM 
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? 
 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should 
 UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team 
 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT 
 Thanks! 
 /blockquote
 /blockquote
 /blockquote
 /blockquote

Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Jason McKemie
AFAIK, you can protect a DC power only circuit so that it is less likely to
get damaged than a copper data/power circuit though...

On Monday, February 2, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Why do you say no more ESD issues?  (I think you really mean lightning
 issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.)

 A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s
 damaged.  You are still powering the radio over copper.  Until you figure
 out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges.

 It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how
 many people do?

 And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable
 to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio.  Again,
 can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do
 that?

 Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path,
 it’s the power path that has DC continuity.  The Ethernet transformers
 should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary
 isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus
 differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation.
 So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path.  Which still exists if
 you have DC power and data over fiber.


  *From:* Mike Hammett javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net');
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber
 port?

  No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues.

 *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','br...@silverlakeinternet.com');
 *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A
 Fiberport?

 I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber.
 One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of
 their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There
 is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie 
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote:

  It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port...

 On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com'); wrote:

  I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t
 think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold
 work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!





Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 8:26:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? 


...that and direct DC contacts. 


On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jeremy  jeremysmi...@gmail.com  wrote: 



At minimum all AFs should have it. That was one of my requests for 'what do you 
want to see from UBNT in 2015?' on their forums. 




On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:40 PM, timothy steele  timothy.pct...@gmail.com  
wrote: 

blockquote

Yep.. 

— 
Sent from Mailbox 





On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, That One Guy  thatoneguyst...@gmail.com  
wrote: 

blockquote


Sorry, survey 
On Feb 2, 2015 7:27 PM, timothy steele  timothy.pct...@gmail.com  wrote: 

blockquote

That is what the Survay is for if enough Wanted it then they can see if its 
worth it or not got 13 yes 0 no in the first 5min of the survay we will see 
what happens 


On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Peter Kranz  pkr...@unwiredltd.com  wrote: 

blockquote



I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think 
they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, 
etc… 

Peter Kranz 
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd 
www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
Mobile: 510-207- 
pkr...@unwiredltd.com 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of timothy steele 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? 


posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should 
UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team 



https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT 



Thanks! 



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Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Jason McKemie
It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port...

On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t
 think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold
 work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com');



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *timothy
 steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!



Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One 
cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their 
products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no 
reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
 wrote:
 
 It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port...
 
 On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:
 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t 
 think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold 
 work, etc…
 
  
 
 Peter Kranz
 Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?
 
  
 
 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should 
 UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team
 
  
 
 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT
 
  
 
 Thanks!


Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Jason McKemie
Well, yeah - effectively 0 I suppose.

On Monday, February 2, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 By less likely you mean 0?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Feb 2, 2015 10:57 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote:

 Fiber is more reliable, less likely to have errors, no issues with being
 located on an FM tower, far less likely to be damaged by storms, etc. There
 are plenty of reasons to go with fiber over copper, especially if you're
 running gigabit.

 On Monday, February 2, 2015, Brett A Mansfield 
 br...@silverlakeinternet.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','br...@silverlakeinternet.com'); wrote:

 I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the
 airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber
 on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP
 on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the
 airFiber.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie 
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:

 It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port...

 On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t
 think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold
 work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!




Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Jason McKemie
Fiber is more reliable, less likely to have errors, no issues with being
located on an FM tower, far less likely to be damaged by storms, etc. There
are plenty of reasons to go with fiber over copper, especially if you're
running gigabit.

On Monday, February 2, 2015, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com
wrote:

 I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber.
 One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of
 their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There
 is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie 
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote:

 It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port...

 On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com'); wrote:

 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t
 think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold
 work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber
 port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!




Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Jeremy
...that and direct DC contacts.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 At minimum all AFs should have it.  That was one of my requests for 'what
 do you want to see from UBNT in 2015?' on their forums.

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:40 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Yep..

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 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sorry, survey
 On Feb 2, 2015 7:27 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 That is what the Survay is for if enough Wanted it then they can see if
 its worth it or not got 13 yes 0 no in the first 5min of the survay we will
 see what happens

 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 wrote:

 I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I
 don’t think they would sell enough of them to make it worth the
 engineering, mold work, etc…




 *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
 www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A
 Fiber port?



 posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think
 Should UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the
 UBNT Team



 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT



 Thanks!







Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port?

2015-02-02 Thread Mike Hammett
No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. 

*EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? 


I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One 
cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their 
products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no 
reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber. 

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield 

On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie  j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com  
wrote: 




It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port... 

On Monday, February 2, 2015, Peter Kranz  pkr...@unwiredltd.com  wrote: 

blockquote



I don’t think this passes the economic factors model for them.. I don’t think 
they would sell enough of them to make it worth the engineering, mold work, 
etc… 

Peter Kranz 
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd 
www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
Mobile: 510-207- 
pkr...@unwiredltd.com 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of timothy steele 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:57 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiber port? 


posting this Survay on All the forums Want to see what you guys think Should 
UBNT Make A Radio with a Fiber Port? I Will Send the Graph to the UBNT Team 



https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8SPM9NT 



Thanks! 


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