om/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXS
t; <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, April 9, 2018 5:27:25 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
>
> The disc
On 4/9/18 15:19, Mike Hammett wrote:
Sounds like a great anti-trust case.
Sure, but that's not something I can control and it's probably buried in
their terms that you agree to it or whatever and it would take a lot of
time and money to try and fight that legally. Or I can turn on HTTPS and
the job.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 5:27:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
//www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --------------
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, April
April 9, 2018 5:22:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
Yeah I think I'll skip a 45 minute podcast that seems to have an anti-crypto
agenda, and continue reading the IETF mailing lists instead. Standardization
and implementation of TLS1.3 will continue onwards even if the techno-luddites
igno
t;
> --------------
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, April 9, 2018 5:14:32 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
>
> The score:
>
> Podcast with six people I've never heard of: 0
>
>
om
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 5:14:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
The score:
Podcast with six people I've never heard of: 0
Every network security expert currently active in the field: 1
Confidential information aside, having 100% confidence that the content served
PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
On 4/9/18 15:09, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Confidential date, sure. Billing portals, shopping carts, etc. sure.
>
> The marketing materials on my web site? Why?
>
Because one day at home after I moved, I tried to go to my own website
and Charter
Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 5:14:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
The score:
Podcast with six people I've never heard of: 0
Every network
et-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Si
On 4/9/18 15:09, Mike Hammett wrote:
Confidential date, sure. Billing portals, shopping carts, etc. sure.
The marketing materials on my web site? Why?
Because one day at home after I moved, I tried to go to my own website
and Charter intercepted the HTTP request to present me with their
WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
> *To
OMEONE SAW MY WEB SITE!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18PbwYdjsps
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "Eric Kuhnke" < eric.kuh...@gmail.com >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:59:23 PM
Message -
From: "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
To: af@afmug.com, af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 5:06:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
Moving any kind of confidential data in the clear is irresponsible.
Moving HTTP traffic across the Internet leaves yo
ange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
> *From: *"Eric
into a terminal to get a valid, automatically
renewing certificate. It seems pointless not to when the benefits are
tangible.
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/9/2018 5:02:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:59:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
I offer a directly contradicting opin
ter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
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> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail
t: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:54:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
What's hard about doing TLS1.2 everywhere? Every web browser shipped or updated
from mid-2012 onwards supports 1.2. The population of browsers that only
support TLS1.0 and 1.1 is less than 1% now by most measurements of usera
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:51:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
"You should have https (TLS1.2) everywhere, on every sort of public facing
httpd these days, with at least a letsencrypt certificate."
We'll eventually have to because Google, etc. will m
om/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.c
" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/9/2018 3:03:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
>
> these days there are essentially two types of SSL cert, DV and EV
>
> DV = domain validated. anyone can get one. this is the same idea for the
> $9 SSL certs an
ke Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:49:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
I have seen stud
en them used heavily is in the financial sector, and
> I'd guess that's more about CYA than technical value.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/9/2018 3:03:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ss
t: 4/9/2018 3:03:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
these days there are essentially two types of SSL cert, DV and EV
DV = domain validated. anyone can get one. this is the same idea for
the $9 SSL certs and free letsencrypt. you only need to prove you
control the domain/server it's
Good info, Eric. AFAIK, you cannot EV and wildcard...Just something to
consider. I'm not a fan of wildcards anyway, but a few subject alt names can be
handy. Plan ahead!
--dan
On 4/9/2018 3:03 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
these days there are essentially two types of SSL cert, DV and EV
DV =
these days there are essentially two types of SSL cert, DV and EV
DV = domain validated. anyone can get one. this is the same idea for the $9
SSL certs and free letsencrypt. you only need to prove you control the
domain/server it's issued for.
EV = extended validation, you need to prove your
.
I'd pay more to have it renew all by itself, but I don't think that's an
option.
-Adam
-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/9/2018 2:59:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
tbh, im not really looking for alterna
than going through the GoDaddy process.
-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/9/2018 1:02:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ssl certs
Im no webdude is the main reason. I know alot of people use it,
phishermen love them.
tbh, im not really looking for alternative sources, im asking advice on
what i need in a certificate
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> ssls.com
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Steve Jones
> wrote:
>
>> Im no webdude is the
ssls.com
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Steve Jones
wrote:
> Im no webdude is the main reason. I know alot of people use it, phishermen
> love them. Theyre "trusted, but not verified" which, to no webdude me, says
> "IT WILL BECOME UNTRUSTED". I hate godaddy, but
Im no webdude is the main reason. I know alot of people use it, phishermen
love them. Theyre "trusted, but not verified" which, to no webdude me, says
"IT WILL BECOME UNTRUSTED". I hate godaddy, but theyre not likely to become
untrusted, so its not something id have to deal with with little to no
Domain validation is usually cheaper. Nobody's complained about it yet.
I have one wildcard cert on POP/SMTP server, webmail, website, customer
portal, etc.
The only problem is when you forget to pay for it they're all broken at
the same time lol.
-- Original Message --
From:
Can you use Let's Encrypt?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Jones"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 12:07:04 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] ssl
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