Re: [agi] New Paper - Temporal Singularity and the Fermi Paradox

2018-06-25 Thread Shashank Yadav
If we are living in a simulation, then P equals NP, I think. - Shashank On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 08:53:31 +0530 Mark Nuzz via AGI wrote On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Matt Mahoney via AGI wrote: Recursive self improvement in a closed environment is not possible because intelligence

Re: [agi] New Paper - Temporal Singularity and the Fermi Paradox

2018-06-25 Thread Mark Nuzz via AGI
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:15 PM, Matt Mahoney via AGI wrote: > Recursive self improvement in a closed environment is not possible because > intelligence depends on knowledge and computing power. These can only come > from outside the simulation. > > I generally agree with this. But let's go into

Re: [agi] New Paper - Temporal Singularity and the Fermi Paradox

2018-06-25 Thread Matt Mahoney via AGI
Recursive self improvement in a closed environment is not possible because intelligence depends on knowledge and computing power. These can only come from outside the simulation. Nor can any simulation model the outside world exactly because Wolpert's theorem prohibits two computers from mutually

Re: [agi] Discrete Methods are Not the Same as Logic

2018-06-25 Thread Jim Bromer via AGI
Please provide a link to the method you are talking about. Jim Bromer On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI wrote: > Convention is a language. The program has to find a way to understand what > people say, and not say. It has to be able to learn the deeper

Re: [agi] Logical Inference in First Working AGI MindForth

2018-06-25 Thread Boris Kazachenko via AGI
Being called a sock-puppet is a compliment? It does take ATM to believe that. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:55 AM MP via AGI wrote: > Wait... I don’t know if that’s a compliment or an insult. > > I do apologize that it seems odd someone would show ATM any shred of > support, but his work is

Re: [agi] Logical Inference in First Working AGI MindForth

2018-06-25 Thread MP via AGI
Wait... I don’t know if that’s a compliment or an insult. I do apologize that it seems odd someone would show ATM any shred of support, but his work is fascinating to me. Extraordinarily cryptic as well. But there are other projects I’m just as supportive of. Especially Kimera - but I’m slowly

[agi] New Paper - Temporal Singularity and the Fermi Paradox

2018-06-25 Thread Giacomo Spigler via AGI
Hi everybody, some of you may be interested in a philosophical / futurological paper in which I propose a new “Temporal Singularity” as a special instance of the Technological Singularity, that was accepted at AGI-18 and that I will present there in August. The idea has interesting implications

Re: [agi] Logical Inference in First Working AGI MindForth

2018-06-25 Thread Boris Kazachenko via AGI
Yeah, I thought that too. But this list is freak show, go figure. On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:42 AM Giacomo Spigler via AGI < agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote: > Is it only me that thinks that MP is another email controlled by AT Murray? > > > On Monday, June 25, 2018, MP via AGI wrote: > >> This

Re: [agi] Logical Inference in First Working AGI MindForth

2018-06-25 Thread Giacomo Spigler via AGI
Is it only me that thinks that MP is another email controlled by AT Murray? On Monday, June 25, 2018, MP via AGI wrote: > This makes more sense than it should... quite interesting to say the > least. > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:44 PM, A.T. Murray via AGI >