Re: [agi] Iteratively Tweak and Test (e.g. MLP => KAN)

2024-05-11 Thread immortal . discoveries
Ye!! It sounds like John is saying a learning algorithm for learning algorithms? With an open-minded attitude always. He seems to highlight that it is about math and efficiency and accuracy of an AI/ its code, and that not only about thinking about them but also running them - perhaps

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread James Bowery
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
> > Anything other than lossless compression as Turing Test V2 is best called > a "Rutting Test" since it is all about suitors of capital displaying one's > prowess in a contest of bullshit. > If an email list on AGI that’s been going on for 20 years can’t devise a benchmark for AGI, wouldn’t

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
> > Your test is the opposite of objective and measurable. What if two high IQ > people disagree if a robot acts like a human or not? > > Which IQ test? There are plenty of high IQ societies that will tell you > your IQ is 180 as long as you pay the membership fee. > > What if I upload the same

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Matt Mahoney
Your test is the opposite of objective and measurable. What if two high IQ people disagree if a robot acts like a human or not? Which IQ test? There are plenty of high IQ societies that will tell you your IQ is 180 as long as you pay the membership fee. What if I upload the same software to a

Re: [agi] Iteratively Tweak and Test (e.g. MLP => KAN)

2024-05-11 Thread Quan Tesla
Seems like you have a plan John. On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 7:56 PM Nanograte Knowledge Technologies < nano...@live.com> wrote: > Just a programmable thought... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6H27YAKbDU > > Explaining the Inner Product in Quantum

Re: [agi] Iteratively Tweak and Test (e.g. MLP => KAN)

2024-05-11 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
Just a programmable thought... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6H27YAKbDU [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP._s1oBZ5dyEqQ3_Q-wZZNkAHgFo=Api] Explaining the Inner Product in Quantum Mechanics (Using Bras and

Re: [agi] Hey, looks like the goertzel is hiring...

2024-05-11 Thread John Rose
On Wednesday, May 08, 2024, at 6:24 PM, Keyvan M. Sadeghi wrote: >> Perhaps we need to sort out human condition issues that stem from human >> consciousness? > > Exactly what we should do and what needs funding, but shitheads of the world > be funding wars. And Altman :)) If Jeremy Griffith’s

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread James Bowery
Anything other than lossless compression as Turing Test V2 is best called a "Rutting Test" since it is all about suitors of capital displaying one's prowess in a contest of bullshit. On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 6:59 AM Keyvan M. Sadeghi < keyvan.m.sade...@gmail.com> wrote: > It’s different than

[agi] Iteratively Tweak and Test (e.g. MLP => KAN)

2024-05-11 Thread John Rose
Seems that software and more generalized mathematics should be discovering these new structures. If a system projects candidates into a test domain, abstracted, and wires them up for testing in a software host how would you narrow the search space of potential candidates? You’d need a more

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
It’s different than Turing Test in that it’s measurable and not subject to interpretation. But it follows the same principle, that an agent’s behavior is ultimately what matters. It’s Turing Test V2. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
> > An LLM has human like behavior. Does it pass the Ruting test? How is this > different from the Turing test? > The instructions are clear, one should upload the code in a robot body, and let it act in the real world. Then a high IQ human observer can confirm whether the behavior is human-like

Re: [agi] α, αGproton, Combinatorial Hierarchy, Computational Irreducibility and other things that just don't matter to reaching AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Quan Tesla
Thanks for the references Rob. I'll be sure to pay the links a proper visit. Yes, De Bono was on every consultant's lips for a while. Not corporate, but in specialist operational training for the military. This included doctrine, drills, deployment and R in counter-insurgency warfare. I