Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread immortal . discoveries
To clear understanding of these unsettling words like simulating/ dreaming, consciousness, etc, I have found related meanings to many of these words in AGI. GPT-2 uses a Transformer that uses Attention. This considers context, and the more context - the more consciousness. Besides that, knowing

Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread Matt Mahoney
So the hard problem of consciousness is solved. Rats have a thalamus which controls whether they are in a conscious state or asleep. John, is that what you meant by consciousness? On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 9:13 PM wrote: > Consciousness has to do with observing temporal patterns. Intelligence is

Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread keghnfeem
It is about a program that can learn what a clock is. This is what machine learning is all about -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T41ac13a64c3d48db-M2139e482264f8202d4fa8eb7 Delivery options:

Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread johnrose
How about:  Write an expression for or compute the consciousness of a clock. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T41ac13a64c3d48db-M77f3de8ef0fd657b53de65f3 Delivery options:

Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread keghnfeem
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151217151716.htm -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T41ac13a64c3d48db-Me0f711ecf4c52ac5f0e72703 Delivery options:

Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread Matt Mahoney
How do you test whether a rat is conscious or not? On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 9:24 PM wrote: > "Consciousness has to do with observing temporal patterns." > The term pattern is ... obscure I'm afraid I try to avoid it but... > > It's more than observe, I would say occupy representation. A pattern is

[agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread keghnfeem
Consciousness is Memory: https://vimeo.com/98785998 -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T41ac13a64c3d48db-M819fa2b8a5413ae9eb019d0b Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread johnrose
"Consciousness has to do with observing temporal patterns." The term pattern is ... obscure I'm afraid I try to avoid it but... It's more than observe, I would say occupy representation. A pattern is a representation. Only terminology?  Two patterns from different domains - the key is how do

[agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread keghnfeem
 Consciousness has to do with observing temporal patterns. Intelligence is for how well a AGI  understanding these temporal patterns. And how well it can control these temporal patterns. And how well   it can prediction these temporal patterns.  Yes, a rat is conscious but not very

[agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread johnrose
"AGI is  100 percent consciousness"  Please throw the AI guys a bone, line 10%?  Even though it's mostly grunt. Sorry I don't really feel that way I know there is something there there is! John -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

[agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread keghnfeem
I have a complete AGI model that explain it all. But no one wants to give me credit for it.   They just keep poaching my work and call it there work, like ripping off hub caps form a car. Like this fool here. The visual alphabet 2.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6MB-ZgPcNg And  this

[agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread johnrose
"Shortcut",  yes there is no shortcut... or is there? "Consciousness is what thinking feels like." EXACTLY!  Define "feel" in the mathematical sense. We coat concepts with words (symbols). Where do they come from? John -- Artificial General Intelligence

Re: [agi] ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread keghnfeem
AGI is  100 percent consciousness and sub consciousness and 100 percent intelligence. Two completely  different thing that need each other to function. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread Matt Mahoney
Sorry, that's just nonsense. Consciousness is what thinking feels like. That feeling evolved so that you would fear dying, just like every other animal. AGI is a very hard engineering problem. It will take a lot of computing power, software, and data collection to reproduce human behavior. If you

[agi] ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

2019-08-23 Thread John Rose
I'm thinking AGI is on the order of 90% consciousness and 10% intelligence. Consciousness I see as Universal Communication Protocol (UCP) and I see consciousness as "Occupying Representation" (OR). Representation being structure (or patterns from a patternist perspective). Then, from