Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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The last bit killed me :)
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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https://medium.com/@stefanreich/explaining-the-world-to-my-a-i-cc3931bb0886
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[agi] Re: There is a life after Ben Goertzel

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The End of the Beginning: Life, Society and Economy on the Brink of the 
Singularity Kindle Edition
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[agi] There is a life after Ben Goertzel

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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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DO YOU EVEN CODE BRO

On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 00:07, Stefan Reich <
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> YOU are condescending. Do you even code?
>
> On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 00:05, Giovanni Santostasi 
> wrote:
>
>> Stefan, you should be happy people are asking you questions and are
>> interested in your work, so you can be less condescending and give a little
>> more explanations. The screenshot has not enough resolution and it is not
>> easy to interpret, otherwise we would not ask you this question.
>> If you want to maintain this attitude you can but it is not useful or
>> productive, why do you want to share things with a group without a desire
>> to be a little more open and social?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:58 PM Stefan Reich via AGI <
>> agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry... you can't interpret a screenshot?
>>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:57, Giovanni Santostasi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can you explain please what exactly does?
 What are its capabilities?


 On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:41 PM Stefan Reich via AGI <
 agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote:

> That's not an algorithm.
>
> You can check my source code for the solution
>
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:22,  wrote:
>
>> match the picture! :)
>>
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[agi] I am told to contact these people

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https://www.ifbhh.de/foerderprogramm/innorampup

But there is no English version of the page

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[agi] Non-users

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

People who, instead of using software, waste the author's time.

> Can you explain please what exactly does?
> What are its capabilities?

This guy would never, EVER actually run the program.

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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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So you're telling me you can't zoom in to a screenshot?

On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 00:05, Giovanni Santostasi 
wrote:

> Stefan, you should be happy people are asking you questions and are
> interested in your work, so you can be less condescending and give a little
> more explanations. The screenshot has not enough resolution and it is not
> easy to interpret, otherwise we would not ask you this question.
> If you want to maintain this attitude you can but it is not useful or
> productive, why do you want to share things with a group without a desire
> to be a little more open and social?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:58 PM Stefan Reich via AGI 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry... you can't interpret a screenshot?
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:57, Giovanni Santostasi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you explain please what exactly does?
>>> What are its capabilities?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:41 PM Stefan Reich via AGI <
>>> agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote:
>>>
 That's not an algorithm.

 You can check my source code for the solution

 On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:22,  wrote:

> match the picture! :)
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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YOU are condescending. Do you even code?

On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 at 00:05, Giovanni Santostasi 
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> Stefan, you should be happy people are asking you questions and are
> interested in your work, so you can be less condescending and give a little
> more explanations. The screenshot has not enough resolution and it is not
> easy to interpret, otherwise we would not ask you this question.
> If you want to maintain this attitude you can but it is not useful or
> productive, why do you want to share things with a group without a desire
> to be a little more open and social?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:58 PM Stefan Reich via AGI 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry... you can't interpret a screenshot?
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:57, Giovanni Santostasi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you explain please what exactly does?
>>> What are its capabilities?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:41 PM Stefan Reich via AGI <
>>> agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote:
>>>
 That's not an algorithm.

 You can check my source code for the solution

 On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:22,  wrote:

> match the picture! :)
>


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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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Stefan, you should be happy people are asking you questions and are
interested in your work, so you can be less condescending and give a little
more explanations. The screenshot has not enough resolution and it is not
easy to interpret, otherwise we would not ask you this question.
If you want to maintain this attitude you can but it is not useful or
productive, why do you want to share things with a group without a desire
to be a little more open and social?


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:58 PM Stefan Reich via AGI 
wrote:

> I'm sorry... you can't interpret a screenshot?
>
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:57, Giovanni Santostasi 
> wrote:
>
>> Can you explain please what exactly does?
>> What are its capabilities?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:41 PM Stefan Reich via AGI <
>> agi@agi.topicbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That's not an algorithm.
>>>
>>> You can check my source code for the solution
>>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:22,  wrote:
>>>
 match the picture! :)

>>>
>>>
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

I'm sorry... you can't interpret a screenshot?

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:57, Giovanni Santostasi 
wrote:

> Can you explain please what exactly does?
> What are its capabilities?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:41 PM Stefan Reich via AGI 
> wrote:
>
>> That's not an algorithm.
>>
>> You can check my source code for the solution
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:22,  wrote:
>>
>>> match the picture! :)
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

[Giovanni Santostasi]

Can you explain please what exactly does?
What are its capabilities?


On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:41 PM Stefan Reich via AGI 
wrote:

> That's not an algorithm.
>
> You can check my source code for the solution
>
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:22,  wrote:
>
>> match the picture! :)
>>
>
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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That's not an algorithm.

You can check my source code for the solution

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:22,  wrote:

> match the picture! :)
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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match the picture! :)
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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Recognizing which type of piece a piece is using ex. a CNN is not easyI was 
talking about a closed box computed simulated board with known objects.
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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Hey, you said it's a simple program. Then explain how it works! You have 3
minutes. 3, 2, 1, ...

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 23:04,  wrote:

> That makes sense, it works on many boards. I was just overfocusing on a
> single board for a given purpose in a closed system...
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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That makes sense, it works on many boards. I was just overfocusing on a single 
board for a given purpose in a closed system...
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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Why don't you ask *chess players* why they would want this?

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:58,  wrote:

> I understand recognizing which piece a piece is isn't "simple". I was just
> saying a simple computer program could do that in a simulation faster
> because it knows which type of piece it is. As for recognizing certain
> arrangements, some may be similar, which is not a simple thing to recognize
> as there is many.
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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I understand recognizing which piece a piece is isn't "simple". I was just 
saying a simple computer program could do that in a simulation faster because 
it knows which type of piece it is. As for recognizing certain arrangements, 
some may be similar, which is not a simple thing to recognize as there is many.
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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Next, a surfing bot

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:43,  wrote:

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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

[Stefan Reich via AGI]

You seem like an unproductive guy

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:44, Stefan Reich <
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> Next, a surfing bot
>
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:43,  wrote:
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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It could do a lot of things, a lot of ways.
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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Sees AI - calls it a simple program. You're wrong on this list

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:37,  wrote:

> Does it recognize a certain arrangement? But a simple program can do
> that.. And, then what?
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Re: [agi] You can help train desktop image segmentation

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Yeah but how should a machine know which filters to apply? Therein lies the
art

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> if you have a 3d camera, segmentation is even easier. its not even
> really machine learning,  its just filters.
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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Does it recognize a certain arrangement? But a simple program can do that.. 
And, then what?
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Re: [agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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It does what its name says

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 22:34,  wrote:

> What's it do?
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[agi] Re: Chess Board Recognizer

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What's it do?
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[agi] Chess Board Recognizer

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You get early access because... you guys.
https://botcompany.de/files/1400260/chess-board-recognizer-0.2.jar

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Re: [agi] Re: ConscioIntelligent Thinkings

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John

For once, I fully agree with you. This is perhaps not just a part of the 
problem (issue), but probably one of the biggest problems facing general, AGI 
progress.
" Part of the issue here is that engineers particularly software cannot wait 
for science in many cases."

But, I strongly disagree with the following statement, for it contains an 
inherent contradiction.

"It is allowed to break physics or invent new ones in a virtual world."

No, they should not be allowed. The definition of engineering, as putting 
method to science, denounces such anarchism. Engineers have to take method and 
use it in context of science. If no science exists yet, they seemingly have the 
obligation to try equally hard to develop and formalize it.

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