Re: [agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

2019-09-24 Thread Yan King Yin, 甄景贤
Thanks to Tim Tyler and James Bowery's explanations  My idea is just a general learning algorithm that can be applied to both supervised and unsupervised situations. I am focusing on how to learn logic rules efficiently. The logic rules would explain a set of data (such data is also expressed

Re: [agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

2019-09-24 Thread James Bowery
If you are acting on the environment to obtain information, you are "supervised" by the environment and your action involves decision theory parameterized by a value function in an explore/exploit tradeoff.   This corresponds to engineering/technology and it is what living things do. If your

Re: [agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

2019-09-24 Thread TimTyler
On 2019-09-24 18:44:PM, YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 12:03 AM doddy > wrote: how effecient is it compared to self supervised learning? You mean unsupervised?  I am not seeing much of a difference between the 2 notions.

Re: [agi] Re: Proposed AI Tests

2019-09-24 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
Promise kept. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OluvmrZnA0A On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 02:46, Stefan Reich < stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote: > That paper is pointless. We should implement the test case. By the end of > tomorrow I will have an editor that solves the example. > > On

Re: [agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

2019-09-24 Thread Yan King Yin, 甄景贤
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 12:03 AM doddy wrote: > how effecient is it compared to self supervised learning? > You mean unsupervised? I am not seeing much of a difference between the 2 notions. The same genetic algorithm idea can be used to learn / evolve a set of logic rules to "explain" or

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-24 Thread korrelan
Reading back up the thread I do seem rather stern or harsh in my opinions, if I came across this way I apologise.  Believe it or not I'm quite an amicable chap, I just lack/ forget the social graces on occasion. :) -- Artificial General Intelligence

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-24 Thread korrelan
The realisation/ understanding that the human brain is closed system, to me… is a first order/ obvious/ primary concept when designing an AGI or in my case a neuromorphic brain simulation. > Your model looks like it has a complexity barrier. On the contrary, I’m negating a complexity barrier by

Re: [agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

2019-09-24 Thread doddy
how effecient is it compared to self supervised learning? On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 6:41 PM YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) < generic.intellige...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone interested in genetic evolution approach to learn logic rules? > Each logic rule would be encoded as a gene (individual) and the

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-24 Thread John Rose
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, at 7:36 AM, korrelan wrote: "the brain is presented with external patterns" "When you talk to someone" "Take this post as an example; I’m trying to explain a concept" "Does any of the actual visual information you gather" These phrases above, re-read them, are

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-24 Thread korrelan
>How does ANY brain acting as a pattern reservoir get filled? No one fills/ places/ forces/ feeds/ writes information directly into a brain, the brain is presented with external patterns that represent information/ learning by other brains that triggers a similar scenario in the receiver’s

Re: [agi] MindForth is the brain for an autonomous robot.

2019-09-24 Thread John Rose
I'm thinking of a mathematical measure called "What The Fuckedness".  WTF({K, P, Le, ...}), K-Complexity, Perplexity and Logical Expectation. Anything missing? It can predict the expressive pattern on someone’s face when they go and type phrases into Mentifex's website expecting AI. John

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-24 Thread John Rose
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, at 7:07 AM, immortal.discoveries wrote: > The brain is a closed system when viewing others Uhm... a "closed system" that views. Not closed then? John -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink:

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-24 Thread immortal . discoveries
We are machines, your home is a machine. The brain is a closed system when viewing others, but your not "you", its all machinery actually. There may be some magical consciousness but it has nothing to do with the physics really. -- Artificial General

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-24 Thread John Rose
On Monday, September 23, 2019, at 7:43 AM, korrelan wrote: > From the reference/ perspective point of a single intelligence/ brain there are no other brains; we are each a closed system and a different version of you, exists in every other brain. How does ANY brain acting as a pattern reservoir

Re: [agi] Re: Proposed AI Tests

2019-09-24 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
Papers are annoying to read and cannot be executed. Thus pointless. On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 06:36, James Bowery wrote: > The paper is pointless only to those without comprehension. > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions

Re: [agi] Re: Proposed AI Tests

2019-09-24 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
I think you might pass the Turing test. Congratulations - you're an A! :-') On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 10:07, wrote: > a := b > c := d > e := f > g := h > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions + >

[agi] Re: Proposed AI Tests

2019-09-24 Thread immortal . discoveries
a := b c := d e := f g := h -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T76e694bfafa7b5f7-M03ee8f6016bff74d9bf5a871 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription