Re: [agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-22 Thread keghnfeem
On Tuesday, September 22, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Jim Bromer wrote: > Since you expend calories on things other than getting more calories then > that implies that every lunch that is sufficient to sustain you must be > partially free. You get more calories from lunch then you expend getting it. >

Re: [agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-22 Thread keghnfeem
lcome.On Tuesday, September 22, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Jim Bromer wrote: > That is a very interesting point, but in talking about a uniform probability > distribution over an infinite set you are characterizing the issue as if it > were the universal characterization that underlies any

Re: [agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-22 Thread Jim Bromer
Since you expend calories on things other than getting more calories then that implies that every lunch that is sufficient to sustain you must be partially free. You get more calories from lunch then you expend getting it. Suppose that there was some supremely efficient characterization of a

Re: [agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-22 Thread Jim Bromer
That is a very interesting point, but in talking about a uniform probability distribution over an infinite set you are characterizing the issue as if it were the universal characterization that underlies any characterization (of all possible universal generalizations).

Re: [agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-22 Thread keghnfeem
 Calories must be expended  to get more calories.  Calories must be expended to prevent the loss of calories.  Calories can be exchanged for any other unit of energy.  This axioms are pivotal in making a AGI energy management system.  No mater how elaborate a life form or conscious machine is it

Re: [agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-22 Thread Matt Mahoney
The no free lunch theorem is based on the false premise that it is possible to have a uniform probability distribution over an infinite set. The converse proves Occam's Razor. On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 11:39 AM Jim Bromer wrote: > If there was no such thing as a free lunch then we would all be

[agi] There is such a thing as a Free Lunch

2020-09-22 Thread Jim Bromer
If there was no such thing as a free lunch then we would all be living in the stone age. Every advancement is based on some kind of efficiency. Yes, those achievements come at a cost.  So there may be a relative trade-off but the loss of generality from a purely imaginary (unattainable ultimate