PowerBuilder and Visual FoxPro. Everyone is entitled to their
opinion but if Math wasn't required at all in all my career, I fail
to see how it is necessary for the creation on an AGI or
Building an AGI without math, I wonder what the design would look like.
different creature. How much
On 3/24/07, John Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you could imagine a really,
really super advanced language created by super-intelligent giant brained
aliens (seriously) or created by their alien supercomputer, what would
that
language be like? Would it be a mishmash of lowest common
On 3/23/07, David Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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*Subject:* Re: [agi] My proposal for an AGI agenda
On 3/23/07, David Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a
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From: rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:48 PM
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Suppose there was an AGI framework that everyone could add
their
On 3/23/07, David Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Both the code and algorythmn must be good for any computer system to work
and neither is easy. The bond formula was published for many years but this
particular company certainly didn't have a copy of it inside a program they
could use. The
If we're talking language for AGI _content_ (as opposed to framework
for which Ben Goertzel has made a fair case for even C++), then more
like removal of features. Because for AGI content, it's not what you
can do in principle, it's what you can be _casual_ with.
Correct, this is an
Is the research on AI full of Math because there are many Math
professors that publish in the field or is the problem really Math
related? Many PhDs in computer science are Math oriented exactly
because the professors that deem their work worth a PhD are either
Ben,
Can you post the current grammar of Combo?
The one of Narsese is http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/NARS-Guide.html
Other approaches are also welcome, as far as they are concrete enough
for fruitful discussion.
Pei
On 3/24/07, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In fact our content
I don't deny that you also might have extensive experience but you were the
one to use inflammatory language.
I have 18 points at www.rccconsulting.com/aihal.htm and an explanation for
each one. Prove to me that this list of features can all be accommodated by
any existing computer language and
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 3:13 AM
Subject: Re: [agi] My proposal for an AGI agenda
Well, do you agree that making predictions is one central aspect of
intelligence? The brain does it all the time to
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 4:26 AM
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-so it will need to have different parts that can be developed (and run?)
independently.
An AGI would be huge.
I appreciate your detailed response but I don't have time to respond to all
your points right now. You can be assured that I will investigate your
points in the coming days.
I am not familiar with C# directly but have programmed extensively in C++
for many years. C itself is not OO and nor is
The fact that C, C++ and I would presume C# has pointers, precludes any of
these from my list up front. There can be no boundary checks at either
compile or execution time so this feature alone is incompatible with a
higher level language IMO.
FYI, C# has no pointers generically, but you
I'm afraid that prefix notion, huge numbers of round brackets and program
structure looking like normal code is not helpful to me. I want a system
that is simple/readable and allows me to concentrate of the project instead
of the code.
LISP is not the only language I have used where program
I'm coming from years of computer telephony work and mostly the languages
that I've worked with include c++, Delphi(Pascal), Java, C#, VB. lately lots
of C# on Windows. What I've seen repeatedly is the features of the
languages, mostly the non-c++ languages where feature utilization is
saturated.
On 3/23/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suppose there was an AGI framework that everyone could add
their ideas to.. What properties should it have? I listed
some points below. What would it take for
you to use the framework? You can add points if you like.
On 3/24/07, Jey
David, the short is answer is yes to ALL your points below.
For those who are actually interested the details are below:
David Clarke wrote:
I appreciate your detailed response but I don't have time to respond to
all
your points right now. You can be assured that I will investigate your
--- YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/23/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suppose there was an AGI framework that everyone could add
their ideas to.. What properties should it have? I listed
some points below. What would it take for
you to use the
For anyone who might be interested, all program, classes, objects etc reside
in a single operating system file. Only a simple config file resides
outside this one file and it is used at startup only. The overhead of
1000's of classes and 10,000's of objects made me decide to make access to
any
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: [agi] My proposal for an AGI agenda
ThatÂ’s a neat trick. So on a four processor box you can take control of
the
processors and the OS and run your
Ben Goertzel wrote:
Mark Waser wrote:
IMO, creating an AGI isn't really a programming problem. The hard
part is knowing exactly what to program.
Which is why it turns into a programming problem . . . . I
started out as a biochemist studying enzyme kinetics. The only
reasonable way
As for all the other talk on this list, recently, about programming
languages and the need for math, etc., I find myself amused by the
irrelevance of most of it: when someone gets a clue about what they
are trying to build, and why, the question of what language (or
environment) they
I don't know math too well, not an expert, just what I picked up on forays
into AGI design. But I see an AGI (a simplified view) as being a kind of
morphism processor and database. Taking inputs from the world, detecting
and storing morphisms from the data streams, post processing the morphisms,
one chooses a
decent option and gets on with it.
-- Ben
That's exactly the problem.. everyone just builds their
own ideas and doesn't consider how their ideas and code could
(later) be used by other people
On 3/24/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
one chooses a
decent option and gets on with it.
-- Ben
That's exactly the problem.. everyone just builds their
own ideas and doesn't consider how their ideas and code could
(later) be used by other people
If Novamente reaches human like,
Ben Goertzel wrote:
Richard Loosemore wrote:
As for all the other talk on this list, recently, about programming
languages and the need for math, etc., I find myself amused by the
irrelevance of most of it: when someone gets a clue about what they
are trying to build, and why, the question
Richard Loosemore wrote:
Ben Goertzel wrote:
Richard Loosemore wrote:
As for all the other talk on this list, recently, about programming
languages and the need for math, etc., I find myself amused by the
irrelevance of most of it: when someone gets a clue about what they
are trying to
rooftop8000 wrote:
one chooses a
decent option and gets on with it.
-- Ben
That's exactly the problem.. everyone just builds their
own ideas and doesn't consider how their ideas and code could
(later) be used by other people
I'm not at all sure something like AGI is well-suited to
On 3/25/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The richer your set of algorithms and representations, the more likely
the correct ones will emerge/pop out as you put it. I don't really like
the idea of hoping for extra functionality to emerge.
This particular version of emergence does not
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