Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-29 Thread aiguy
Richard Hollerith said: If I am found dead with a bag over my head attached to helium or natural gas, please investigate the possibility that it was a murder made to look like a suicide. -- Richard Hollerith http://dl4.jottit.com Same here Richard. Nitrous Oxide would

Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers [WAS Re: Singularity Outcomes...]

2008-01-29 Thread Kaj Sotala
On 1/29/08, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summary of the difference: 1) I am not even convinced that an AI driven by a GS will ever actually become generally intelligent, because of the self-contrdictions built into the idea of a goal stack. I am fairly sure that whenever anyone

Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers [WAS Re: Singularity Outcomes...]

2008-01-29 Thread Richard Loosemore
Kaj Sotala wrote: On 1/29/08, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summary of the difference: 1) I am not even convinced that an AI driven by a GS will ever actually become generally intelligent, because of the self-contrdictions built into the idea of a goal stack. I am fairly sure

[agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-29 Thread Richard Hollerith
If I am found dead with a bag over my head attached to helium or natural gas, please investigate the possibility that it was a murder made to look like a suicide. -- Richard Hollerith http://dl4.jottit.com - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-29 Thread Joshua Fox
When transhumanists talk about indefinite life extension, they often take care to say it's optional to forestall one common objection. Yet I feel that most suicides we see should have been prevented -- that the person should have been taken into custody and treated if possible, even against their

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Waser
Ethics only becomes snarled when one is unwilling to decide/declare what the goal of life is. Extrapolated Volition comes down to a homunculus depending upon the definition of wiser or saner. Evolution has decided what the goal of life is . . . . but most are unwilling to accept it (in part