[agi] Is anyone else here going to WORLDCOMP08?

2008-07-04 Thread Steve Richfield
Hi All, Is anyone else here going to WORLDCOMP08? That is in Las Vegas from July 14-17. It would sure be nice to discuss things at talking speed rather than typing speed. Steve Richfield --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now

Re: [agi] WHAT SORT OF HARDWARE $33K AND $850K BUYS TODAY FOR USE IN AGI

2008-07-04 Thread William Pearson
Terren, Remember when I said that a purpose is not the same thing as a goal? The purpose that the system might be said to have embedded is attempting to maximise a certain signal. This purpose presupposes no ontology. The fact that this signal is attached to a human means the system as a

[agi] need some help with loopy Bayes net

2008-07-04 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
I'm considering nonmonotonic reasoning using Bayes net, and got stuck. There is an example on p483 of J Pearl's 1988 book PRIIS: Given: birds can fly penguins are birds penguins cannot fly The desiderata is to conclude that penguins are birds, but penguins cannot fly. Pearl translates the KB

Re: [agi] need some help with loopy Bayes net

2008-07-04 Thread Ben Goertzel
YKY, PLN, like NARS, uses inference trails Although we have tried omitting them, and found interesting results: errors do propagate, but not boundlessly, and network truth values are still meaningful Loopy Bayes nets basically just live with the circularity and rely on math properties of the

Re: [agi] WHAT SORT OF HARDWARE $33K AND $850K BUYS TODAY FOR USE IN AGI

2008-07-04 Thread Terren Suydam
Will, --- On Fri, 7/4/08, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the following make sense? The purpose embedded within the system will be try and make the system not decrease in its ability to receive some abstract number. The way I connect up the abstract number to the real world

Re: [agi] need some help with loopy Bayes net

2008-07-04 Thread Pei Wang
Though there is a loop, YKY's problem not is caused by circular inference, but by multiple Inheritances, that is, different inference paths give different conclusions. This is indeed a problem in Bayes net, and there is no general solution in that theory, except in special cases. This problem is

Re: [agi] need some help with loopy Bayes net

2008-07-04 Thread Brad Paulsen
YKY, I'm not certain this applies directly to your issue, but it's an interesting paper nonetheless: http://web.mit.edu/cocosci/Papers/nips00.ps. Cheers, Brad YKY (Yan King Yin) wrote: I'm considering nonmonotonic reasoning using Bayes net, and got stuck. There is an example on p483 of J