On 08/12/2007, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Millions of investment bucks doesn't go that far in robotics, unfortunately.
>
> I hope to see progress too, but I believe you're way optimistic about
> the current
> state of robotics research.
As an old lag I am constantly disappoint
On 08/12/2007, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or at any rate, that's my garbled
> impression from cursory reading. There seems to be no way to digitally
> compute/ control & coordinate the movements of complex limbs in real time -
> it's all way too complex. The development of analog mod
> So I reckon roboticists ARE actually focussed on an AGI challenge - whereas,
> as I've pointed out before, there is nothing comparable in pure AGI.
To my knowledge, none of the work on the ICRA Robotic Challenge is at
this point taking a strong AGI approach
>And
> with all those millions of inv
On 08/12/2007, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I.e. the "AGI meets robotics" meme is VERY far from affecting the
> commercial robotics
> industry, it would seem. Which is a shame.
This comes back to what Matt Trossen was talking about in that both he
and I think that the big innov
Ben:My prediction is that, when robotics firms finally get around to working
on
multi-purpose robots that need to carry out multiple intersecting,
interacting
activities in messy real-world environments --- THEN they will all of a
sudden
become intensively interested in work on cognitive archit
> Yes I expect to see more narrow AI robotics in future, but as time
> goes on there will be pressures to consolidate multiple abilities into
> a single machine. Ergonomics dictates that people will only accept a
> limited number of mobile robots in their homes or work spaces.
> Physical space is
On 08/12/2007, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps then the reason that the
> "robotics revolution" has indeed started - and is perceived as such by major
> scientific media - is that with Darpa robots have moved successfully into
> the real world and more or less unstructured environ
Ben:Can you point to any single robot that has demonstrated the capability
to
learn a range of abilities and activities?
Fair enough. (Getting combative, huh?). Perhaps then the reason that the
"robotics revolution" has indeed started - and is perceived as such by major
scientific media - is t
On 08/12/2007, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Trossen stuff looks at a glance - correct me - like we are going to see
> ever more robots programmed for specialised tasks in ever more
> environments.But it's arguably general intelligence and, indeed,
> "athleticism", that interests us
> Thanks Bob. But I meant, it looks more likely that robots will achieve - and
> have already taken the first concrete steps to achieve - the goals of AGI -
> the capacity to learn a range of abilities and activities.
Can you point to any single robot that has demonstrated the capability to
learn
Bob:>> The "robotics revolution" is already happening. Presumably, as some
kind of
roboticist, you would agree? - The robotics revolution has already
happened.
Thanks Bob. But I meant, it looks more likely that robots will achieve - and
have already taken the first concrete steps to achieve
> The "robotics revolution" is already happening. Presumably, as some kind of
> roboticist, you would agree?
The robotics revolution has already happened. There has been a quiet
revolution in some manufacturing industries with large amounts of
human labour being replaced by automation. However,
On Dec 8, 2007 2:10 AM, Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vlad,
>
> The Russians have traditionally had more than their share of math whizzes,
> so I am surprised there isn't more interest in this subject there.
>
> I don't understand "I wonder where your question has a positive answer and
> h
ember 07, 2007 5:35 PM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Subject: Re: [agi] AGI communities and support
On Dec 8, 2007 1:08 AM, Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vlad,
>
> What country are you in?
>
> And what is the level of web-comunity, academic, commercial, and
> governmenta
Bob : AGI related activities everywhere are minimal right now. Even people
interested in AI often have no idea what the term "AGI" means. The
meme hasn't spread very far beyond a few technologists and
visionaries. I think it's only when someone has some amount of
demonstrable success with an
AGI related activities everywhere are minimal right now. Even people
interested in AI often have no idea what the term "AGI" means. The
meme hasn't spread very far beyond a few technologists and
visionaries. I think it's only when someone has some amount of
demonstrable success with an AGI syste
On Dec 8, 2007 1:08 AM, Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vlad,
>
> What country are you in?
>
> And what is the level of web-comunity, academic, commercial, and
> governmental support AGI in your country?
>
> Ed Porter
>
I live in Moscow. AGI-related activities are nonexistent here; there's
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