On Jan 14, 2008 10:10 AM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any fool can mathematize a definition of a commonsense idea without
> actually saying anything new.
Ouch. Careful. :) That may be true, but it takes $10M worth of
computer hardware to disprove.
disclaimer: that was humor
I heavily agree with you, Richard. But perhaps the Hutter exercise has some
value - simply by way of making us question the validity of any mathematical
approach to intelligence.
Well, there IS some value, (although BTW, at a glance they don't seem to
recognize that IQ is not even a direct me
Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
Your job is to be diplomatic. Mine is to call a spade a spade. ;-)
Richard Loosemore
I would rephrase it like this: Your job is to make me look diplomatic ;-p
I agree: I am undiplomatic and unreasonable.
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreas
> Your job is to be diplomatic. Mine is to call a spade a spade. ;-)
>
>
> Richard Loosemore
I would rephrase it like this: Your job is to make me look diplomatic ;-p
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Benjamin Goertzel wrote:
Richard,
I don't think Shane and Marcus's overview of definitions-of-intelligence
is "poor quality".
I'll explain why I said "poor quality".
In my experience of marking student essays, there is a stereotype of the
"night before deadline" essay, which goes like this.
Richard,
I don't think Shane and Marcus's overview of definitions-of-intelligence
is "poor quality".
I think it is just doing something different than what you think it should be
doing.
The overview is exactly that: A review of what researchers have said about
the definition of intelligence.
Th
Pei Wang wrote:
On Jan 13, 2008 7:40 PM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And, as I indicated, my particular beef was with Shane Legg's paper,
which I found singularly content-free.
Shane Legg and Marcus Hutter have a recent publication on this topic,
http://www.springerlink.c
On Jan 13, 2008 7:40 PM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, as I indicated, my particular beef was with Shane Legg's paper,
> which I found singularly content-free.
Shane Legg and Marcus Hutter have a recent publication on this topic,
http://www.springerlink.com/content/jm815
Pei Wang wrote:
On Jan 12, 2008 3:04 PM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Every time a dispute erupts about what the real definition of
"intelligence" is, all we really get is noise, because nobody is clear
about the role that the definition is supposed to play.
Richard,
I fully u
On 12/01/2008, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Every time a dispute erupts about what the real definition of
> "intelligence" is, all we really get is noise, because nobody is clear
> about the role that the definition is supposed to play.
>
> If the role is to distinguish Narrow A
On Jan 12, 2008 3:04 PM, Richard Loosemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Every time a dispute erupts about what the real definition of
> "intelligence" is, all we really get is noise, because nobody is clear
> about the role that the definition is supposed to play.
Richard,
I fully understand ho
Every time a dispute erupts about what the real definition of
"intelligence" is, all we really get is noise, because nobody is clear
about the role that the definition is supposed to play.
If the role is to distinguish Narrow AI from AGI, Ben's definition is
fine. If the role is to define a
On definitions of intelligence, the canonical reference is
http://www.vetta.org/shane/intelligence.html
which lists 71 definitions. Apologies if someone already pointed out
Shane's page in this thread, I didn't read every message carefully.
> An AGI definition of intelligence surely has, by def
On 1/12/08, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "The primary motivation behind the Novamente AI Engine
> is to build a system that can achieve complex goals in
> complex environments, a synopsis of the definition of intelligence
> given in (Goertzel 1993). The emphasis is on the
This is not
Just rereading & had to post that I suddenly realised that while your
definition of intelligence is confusing, your basic meaning is fine:
"The primary motivation behind the Novamente AI Engine
is to build a system that can achieve complex goals in
complex environments, a synopsis of the definit
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