Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-08 Thread wannabe
And I think you have to ask the question, does it even make sense to have an AGI application? If you are already restricting a problem, doesn't that by definition make it not general? I guess the idea that if you have an AGI architecture, you can throw it at some specific problem. But what is th

Re: Stocks; was Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-08 Thread Ian Parker
OK Ben is then one step ahead of Forex. Point is time series analysis, although it is narrow AI can be extremely powerful. The situation about "* sentiment*" is different from that of Poker where there is a single adversary bluffing. A time series analysis encompasses the *ensemble* of different op

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-08 Thread Steve Richfield
Ben On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > I need to substantiate the case for such AGI > technology by making an argument for high-value apps. > There is interesting "hidden value" in some stuff. In the case of Dr. Eliza, it provide a communication pathway to sick people, which

Stocks; was Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-08 Thread Abram Demski
Ian, Be courteous-- Ben asked specifically that any arguments about which things are narrow-ai should start a separate topic. Yea, I did not intend to rule out any possible sources of information for the stock market prediction task. Ben has worked on a system which looked on the web for chatter

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-08 Thread Ian Parker
Just one point about Forex, your first entry. This is purely a time series analysis as I understand it. It is narrow AI in fact. With AGI you would expect interviews with the executives of listed companies, just as the big investment houses do. AGI would be data mining of everything about a compan

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-08 Thread deepakjnath
1. Basic object recognition can be used in camera phones to identify people in front or objects in front. This can be used by blind people to navigate their environment better. 2. AGI expert systems can be used to diagnose diseases. thanks, Deepak On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Ben Goertzel w

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-08 Thread wannabe
I don't know if it's low-hanging fruit, but it certainly seems like it would require AGI to have a system that could given some picture or video input, say what some object is. And along those lines, accept verbal instruction as to what it is if it's wrong in what it thinks. I bring that up becau

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-07 Thread Steve Richfield
Ben, Dr. Eliza with the Gracie interface to Dragon NaturallySpeaking makes a really spectacular speech I/O demo - when it works, which is ~50% of the time. The other 50% of the time, it fails to recognize enough to run with, misses something critical, etc., and just sounds stupid, kinda like most

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-07 Thread Russell Wallace
If you can do better voice recognition, that's a significant application in its own right, as well as having uses in other applications e.g. automated first layer for call centers. If you can do better image/video recognition, there are a great many uses for that -- look at all the things people a

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-07 Thread David Jones
Hey Ben, Faster, cheaper, and more robust 3D modeling for the movie industry. The modeling allows different sources of video content to be extracted from scenes, manipulated and mixed with others. The movie industry has the money and motivation to extract data from images. Making it easier, more

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-07 Thread Mike Tintner
n Goertzel" Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:10 AM To: "agi" Subject: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps Hi, A fellow AGI researcher sent me this request, so I figured I'd throw it out to you guys I'm putting toget

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-07 Thread Abram Demski
Ben, -The oft-mentioned stock-market prediction; -data mining, especially for corporate data such as customer behavior, sales prediction, etc; -decision support systems; -personal assistants; -chatbots (think, an ipod that talks to you when you are lonely); -educational uses including human-like a

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
, matmaho...@yahoo.com > > > -- > *From:* Ben Goertzel > *To:* agi > *Sent:* Sat, August 7, 2010 9:10:23 PM > *Subject:* [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low > hanging fruit apps > > Hi, > > A fellow AGI researcher sent me

Re: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-07 Thread Matt Mahoney
Wouldn't it depend on the other researcher's area of expertise? -- Matt Mahoney, matmaho...@yahoo.com From: Ben Goertzel To: agi Sent: Sat, August 7, 2010 9:10:23 PM Subject: [agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging

[agi] Help requested: Making a list of (non-robotic) AGI low hanging fruit apps

2010-08-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi, A fellow AGI researcher sent me this request, so I figured I'd throw it out to you guys I'm putting together an AGI pitch for investors and thinking of low hanging fruit applications to argue for. I'm intentionally not involving any mechanics (robots, moving parts, etc.). I'm focusin