Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi

2006-08-28 Thread Mark Waser
a canonical form, or Discarding either x or x' is not a lossy operation? Mark - Original Message - From: "Matt Mahoney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi In showing that compre

Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi

2006-08-28 Thread Sampo Etelavuori
On 8/28/06, Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does a lossless model observe that Jim is extremely fat and James continues to be morbidly obese are approximately equal? Actually I think I just may have invented one possible way to do that using a lossless probabilistic model in my

Re: Sampo [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi

2006-08-28 Thread Mark Waser
Message - From: Sampo Etelavuori [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:56 AM Subject: **SPAM** Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi On 8/28/06, Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does a lossless model observe that Jim is extremely fat and James

Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi

2006-08-28 Thread Matt Mahoney
On 8/28/06, Mark Waser wrote: How does a lossless model observe that Jim is extremely fat and James continues to be morbidly obese are approximately equal? I realize this is far beyond the capabilities of current data compression programs, which typically predict the next byte in the

Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi

2006-08-28 Thread Mark Waser
Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi On 8/28/06, Mark Waser wrote: How does a lossless model observe that Jim is extremely fat and James continues to be morbidly obese are approximately equal

Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi

2006-08-27 Thread Philip Goetz
On 8/25/06, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I stated earlier, the fact that there is normal variation in human language models makes it easier for a machine to pass the Turing test. However, a machine with a lossless model will still outperform one with a lossy model because the

Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi

2006-08-27 Thread Matt Mahoney
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: Philip Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:23:25 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Lossy ** lossless compressi On 8/25/06, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I stated earlier, the fact that there is normal