Re: [agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-26 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
(I'm kind of busy with personal matters... so will be brief) I want to know where can we have an AGI project that allows collaboration, and is also commercial? I think many of the other AI communities are strongly academical. This list is slightly different in that respect. YKY

Re: [agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-24 Thread Joseph Henry
> "You would require visual intelligence to build these nanobots." Not necessarily visual, but spatial. They are not synonymous. > "It is impossible to bootstrap perceptual grounding from a purely symbolic AGI. It does not know how to build 3D robots." Ah-ah-ah... be careful here, remember the b

Re: [agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Richfield
Joshua, On 4/23/08, Joshua Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To return to the old question of why AGI research seems so rare, > Samsonovich et al. say ( > http://members.cox.net/alexei.v.samsonovich/samsonovich_workshop.pdf) > > 'In fact, there are several scientific communities pursuing the sam

Re: [agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-23 Thread a
Ben Goertzel wrote: I wouldn't agree with such a strong statement. I think the grounding of ratiocination in image-ination is characteristic of human intelligence, and must thus be characteristic of any highly human-like intelligent system ... but, I don't see any reason to believe it's the ONLY

Re: [agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-23 Thread Mike Tintner
Ben/Joshua: How do you think the AI and AGI fields relate to the embodied & grounded cognition movements in cog. sci? My impression is that the majority of people here (excluding you) still have only limited awareness of them - & are still operating in total & totally doomed defiance of their

Re: [agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-23 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben/Joshua: > > How do you think the AI and AGI fields relate to the embodied & grounded > cognition movements in cog. sci? My impression is that the majority of > people here (excluding you) still have only limited awaren

Re: [agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-23 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Joshua Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To return to the old question of why AGI research seems so rare, Samsonovich > et al. say > (http://members.cox.net/alexei.v.samsonovich/samsonovich_workshop.pdf) > > 'In fact, there are several scientific communities pursui

Re: [agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-23 Thread Pei Wang
As usual, it is a matter of degree --- each of the communities Alexei listed has some similarity with AGI in the research goals and techniques explored, but at the same time, there are noticeable differences in the assumptions and focuses, which are not merely a difference in name. Given what is g

[agi] Other AGI-like communities

2008-04-23 Thread Joshua Fox
To return to the old question of why AGI research seems so rare, Samsonovich et al. say ( http://members.cox.net/alexei.v.samsonovich/samsonovich_workshop.pdf) 'In fact, there are several scientific communities pursuing the same or similar goals, each unified under their own unique slogan: "machin