Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-19 Thread Steve Richfield
Richard, Rather than getting lost in responding to the details of your posting, my entire discussion hinged on one apparent fact that may be in dispute here. With all of the challenges of the English language, I will try to make a short statement of that apparent fact. You can listen to a

Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-19 Thread Mike Tintner
Steve:You can read the same passage and completely understand what it says. However, when YOU (and not some imperfect computer program that you might design and write) sit down and carefully identify parts of speech, construct the potential diagrams for the sentence, go through domain-specific

Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-19 Thread Richard Loosemore
Steve Richfield wrote: Richard, Rather than getting lost in responding to the details of your posting, my entire discussion hinged on one apparent fact that may be in dispute here. With all of the challenges of the English language, I will try to make a short statement of that apparent

An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-18 Thread Richard Loosemore
Steve Richfield wrote: I have a headache. I missed my morning coffee. From this, Dr. Eliza will see a present-tense headache, a present-tense negated (presumed consumption) of coffee. A link definition would look for a headache and no present-tense coffee, and past-tense coffee. What it

Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-18 Thread Steve Richfield
Richard, On 5/18/08, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: I have a headache. I missed my morning coffee. From this, Dr. Eliza will see a present-tense headache, a present-tense negated (presumed consumption) of coffee. A link definition would look for a

Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-18 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: What I fail to see is how fully understanding the written/spoken word is of any use to any computer program! What would you then do with that understanding, since most of it will be beyond the ability of any computer

Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-18 Thread Richard Loosemore
Steve Richfield wrote: Richard, On 5/18/08, *Richard Loosemore* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: I have a headache. I missed my morning coffee. From this, Dr. Eliza will see a present-tense headache, a present-tense

Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-18 Thread Richard Loosemore
Matt Mahoney wrote: --- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: What I fail to see is how fully understanding the written/spoken word is of any use to any computer program! What would you then do with that understanding, since most of it will be beyond the ability of

Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-18 Thread Steve Richfield
Richard, On 5/18/08, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: large snip With luck we can wring things out at this level. With a little less luck, a couple of weeks of attempted high-level design will lead you to these same conclusions. With no luck at all, you

Re: An AGI is supposed to be able to understand [WAS Re: [agi] AGI and Wiki...]

2008-05-18 Thread Richard Loosemore
Steve Richfield wrote: Richard, On 5/18/08, *Richard Loosemore* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: large snip With luck we can wring things out at this level. With a little less luck, a couple of weeks of attempted high-level