Re: Seed AI (was Re: [agi] My prospective plan to neutralize AGI and other dangerous technologies...)

2008-11-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
BTW, for those who are newbies to this list, Matt's argument attempting to refute RSI was extensively discussed on this list a few months ago. In my view, I refuted his argument pretty clearly, although he does not agree. His mathematics is correct, but seemed to me irrelevant to real-life RSI

Re: Seed AI (was Re: [agi] My prospective plan to neutralize AGI and other dangerous technologies...)

2008-11-19 Thread Daniel Yokomizo
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Daniel Yokomizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seed AI is a myth. http://www.mattmahoney.net/agi2.html (section 2). (I'm assuming

Re: Seed AI (was Re: [agi] My prospective plan to neutralize AGI and other dangerous technologies...)

2008-11-19 Thread Steve Richfield
Back to reality for a moment... I have greatly increased the IQs of some pretty bright people since I started doing this in 2001 (the details are way off topic here, so contact me off-line for more if you are interested), and now, others are also doing this. I think that these people give us a

Re: Seed AI (was Re: [agi] My prospective plan to neutralize AGI and other dangerous technologies...)

2008-11-19 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Wed, 11/19/08, Daniel Yokomizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to be clear, you agree that an agent is able to create a better version of itself, not just in terms of a badly defined measure as IQ but also as a measure of resource utilization. Yes, even bacteria can do this. Do