[agi] singularity humor

2006-07-13 Thread Eric Baum
Top ten signs the singularity has arrived http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1152629462.shtml --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [agi] Soar vs Novamente

2006-07-13 Thread James Ratcliff
Just some quick comments. It appears to me that perhaps the primary topic in question is an ability to generalize or abstract knowledge to varieties of situations. I would say that for the most part Soar is very good at *representing* and *using* composable (and therefore generalized) knowledge

Re: [agi] Computing Intelligence? How too? ................. ping

2006-07-13 Thread James Ratcliff
Danny, I just read an interesting article that goes through a more formal proof of intelligence "A formal measure of Machine Intelligence"which I may have gotten from a link from this group or another.http://www.vetta.org/documents/ui_benelearn.pdfJames Ratcliff[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone

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2006-07-13 Thread DGoe
James Many thanks for the link on Computing Intelligence. Dan Goe From : James Ratcliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : agi@v2.listbox.com Subject : Re: [agi] Computing Intelligence? How too? . ping Date : Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:44:26

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2006-07-13 Thread DGoe
James, Many thanks for the link on Computing Intelligence. Dan Goe From : James Ratcliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : agi@v2.listbox.com Subject : Re: [agi] Computing Intelligence? How too? . ping Date : Thu, 13 Jul 2006

Re: [agi] Soar vs Novamente

2006-07-13 Thread Pei Wang
Soar, like other cognitive architectures (such as ACT-R), is not designed to directly deal with domain problems. Instead, it is a high-level platform on which a program can be built for a specific problem. On the contrary, Novamente, like other AGI systems (such as NARS), is designed to directly

Re: [agi] Processing speed for core intelligence in human brain

2006-07-13 Thread Mark Waser
 My personal guesstimate is that what are commonly considered the higher order cognitive functions useway less than 1% of the total power estimated for the brain (and also, that the brain does them very inefficiently so a better implementation would use even less power). On the other

Re: [agi] Processing speed for core intelligence in human brain

2006-07-13 Thread Richard Loosemore
Joshua Fox wrote: Greetings, I am new to the list. I hope that the following question adds something of value. Estimates for the total processing speed of intelligence in the human brain are often used as crude guides to understanding the timeline towards human-equivalent intelligence.

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2006-07-13 Thread Shane Legg
James,Currently I'm writing a much longer paper (about 40 pages) on intelligencemeasurement. A draft version of this will be ready in about a month whichI hope to circulate around a bit for comments and criticism. There is also another guy who has recently come to my attention who is doing

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2006-07-13 Thread Shane Legg
On 7/13/06, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shane,Do you mean Warren Smith?Yes.Shane To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2006-07-13 Thread James Ratcliff
Shane, Thanks, I would appreciate that greatly.On the topic of measuring intelligence, what do you think about the actual structure of comparison of some of today's AI systems. I would like to see someone come up with and get support for a general fairly widespread set of test s for general AI

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2006-07-13 Thread Ben Goertzel
I think that public learning/training of an AGI would be a terrible disaster... Look at what happened with OpenMind and MindPixel These projects allowed the public to upload knowledge into them, which resulted in a lot of knowledge of the general nature Jennifer Lopez got a nice butt, etc.

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2006-07-13 Thread James Ratcliff
Ben, Yes, but OpenMind did get quite a bit of usable information into it as well, and mainly they learned a lot about the process. I believe, and they are looking at as well, different ways of grading the participants themselves, so the obviously juvienile ones could be graded down and out of the

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2006-07-13 Thread Ben Goertzel
I agree that using the Net to recruit a team of volunteer AGI teachers would be a good idea. But opening the process up to random web-surfers is, IMO, asking for trouble...! -- Ben On 7/13/06, James Ratcliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, Yes, but OpenMind did get quite a bit of usable

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2006-07-13 Thread Pei Wang
Ben, Though Piaget is my favorite psychologist, I don't think his theory on Developmental Psychology applies to AI to the extent you suggested. One major reason is: in a human baby, the mental learning process in the mind and the biological developing process in the brain happen together, while

Re: [agi] singularity humor

2006-07-13 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
I think this one was the granddaddy: http://yudkowsky.net/humor/signs-singularity.txt -- Eliezer S. Yudkowsky http://singinst.org/ Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate