Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-20 Thread Charles D Hixson
Benjamin Goertzel wrote: And, importance levels need to be context-dependent, so that assigning them requires sophisticated inference in itself... The problem may not be so serious. Common sense reasoning may require only *shallow* inference chains, eg 5 applications of rules. So I'm

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-20 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Hi, Possibly this could be approached by partitioning the rule-set into small chunks of rules that work together, so that one didn't end up trying everything against everything else. These chunks of rules might well be context dependent, so that one would use different chunks at a dinner table

Re: [agi] Chaitin randomness

2007-01-20 Thread gts
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:32:18 -0500, Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure exchangeability implies Chaitin randomness. Yeah, you're right, this statement needs qualification -- it wasn;t quite right as stated. You're right that a binary series formed by tossing a weighted

Re: [agi] Project proposal: MindPixel 2

2007-01-20 Thread Charles D Hixson
Benjamin Goertzel wrote: Hi, Possibly this could be approached by partitioning the rule-set into small chunks of rules that work together, so that one didn't end up trying everything against everything else. These chunks of rules might well be context dependent, so that one would use

Re: [agi] Chaitin randomness

2007-01-20 Thread gts
This author makes a distinction, similar to the one in my mind, between algorithmic and intuitive randomness. === We can say that a sequence is algorithmically random if it has an amount of algorithmic information approximately equal to its length. Note that this is related to, but not

[agi] Re: (video)The Future of Cognitive Computing

2007-01-20 Thread Kingma, D.P.
Forgot to say: If anyone has found similarly informative video's regarding cognitive computing or AGI in general, I'm very interested. On 1/20/07, Kingma, D.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (lmaden Institute Conference on Cognitive Computing)

Re: [agi] Re: (video)The Future of Cognitive Computing

2007-01-20 Thread Bob Mottram
Here's a video in which Donald Michie talks about the early years of AI (GOFAI), beginning with his discussions with Alan Turing about building a child machine. http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/events/ccs2002/2002-10-11-michie.qtl On 20/01/07, Kingma, D.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot to say:

Re: [agi] Chaitin randomness

2007-01-20 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- gts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can imagine ourselves parsing the sequence, dividing it into two groups: 1) complex/disorderly subsequences not amenable to simple algorithmic derivation and 2) simple/orderly subsequences such as those above that are so amenable. Now, if I

Re: [agi] Chaitin randomness

2007-01-20 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Hi, Now, if I understand Chaitin's information-theoretic compressibility definition of randomness correctly (and I very likely do not), the simple/orderly subsequences in group 2) are compressible and so would count against the larger sequence in any compressibility measure of its randomness.

Re: [agi] Chaitin randomness

2007-01-20 Thread gts
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:41:55 -0500, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any information you save by compressing the compressible bits of a random sequence is lost because you also have to specify the location of those bits. (You can use the counting argument to prove this). Ah, yes...