Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-29 Thread Harvey Newstrom
Google Glory/Prudence Providence/Faith Grace/Beauty Tranquility/Ecstasy to see about a hundred of these postings spammed all over the Internet since 2001. They are always the same stuff rebranded as a new unified theory for psychology, spirituality, classifying emotions, decoding mental illness,

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Valentina Poletti
lol.. well said richard. the stimuli simply invokes no signiticant response and thus our brain concludes that we 'don't know'. that's why it takes no effort to realize it. agi algorithms should be built in a similar way, rather than searching. Isn't this a bit of a no-brainer? Why would the

Re: [agi] a fuzzy reasoning problem

2008-07-29 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 7/29/08, Benjamin Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see the failure in this argument at step 2. Cybersex is a kind of erotic interaction. Erotic interactions are often called sex in general conversation, even though there are many kinds of erotic interactions that don't result in the

RE: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Ed Porter
I believe the human brain, in addition to including the controller for a physical robot, includes the controller of a thought robot which includes pushing much of the brain through learned or instinctual mental behaviors. My understanding is that much of higher level function of this thought

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Charles Hixson
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 03:08:55 am Valentina Poletti wrote: lol.. well said richard. the stimuli simply invokes no signiticant response and thus our brain concludes that we 'don't know'. that's why it takes no effort to realize it. agi algorithms should be built in a similar way, rather than

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-29 Thread John LaMuth
There is nothing at all spam-like about publicizing a new and worthy addition to global knowledge and harmony. Instead of your ad hominem insinuations, why not focus on the issues and enlighten me as to where this new system is not valid or sound, if you can ?? John E. LaMuth BAMA JAMA

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Matt Mahoney
This is not a hard problem. A model for data compression has the task of predicting the next bit in a string of unknown origin. If the string is an encoding of natural language text, then modeling is an AI problem. If the model doesn't know, then it assigns a probability of about 1/2 to each of

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: All, Here's a question for you: What does fomlepung mean? If your immediate (mental) response was I don't know. it means you're not a slang-slinging Norwegian. But, how did your brain produce that feeling of not knowing? And, how did it

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
James, So, you agree that some sort of search must take place before the feeling of not knowing presents itself? Of course, realizing we don't have a lot of information results from some type of a search and not a separate process (at least you didn't posit any). Thanks for your comments!

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
Valentina, Well, the LOL is on you. Richard failed to add anything new to the two previous responses that each posited linguistic surface feature analysis as being responsible for generate the feeling of not knowing with that *particular* (and, admittedly poorly-chosen) example query. This

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
Ed, Thanks for the response. I'm going to read it a couple more times to make sure I didn't miss anything. But, on first read, looks good! Thanks for taking the time to comment in such detail! Cheers, Brad Ed Porter wrote: I believe the human brain, in addition to including the

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Charles Hixson
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 04:12:27 pm Brad Paulsen wrote: Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: All, Here's a question for you: What does fomlepung mean? If your immediate (mental) response was I don't know. it means you're not a slang-slinging Norwegian. But, how did

RE: [agi] a fuzzy reasoning problem

2008-07-29 Thread Benjamin Johnston
Saying that cybersex is a kind of sex is similar to saying phone sex is a kind of sex oral sex is a kind of sex anal sex is a kind of sex group sex is a kind of sex or penguin is a kind of bird It seems pretty uncontroversial... It's true that cybersex is a

Fw: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-29 Thread Harvey Newstrom
John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, There is nothing at all spam-like about publicizing a new and worthy addition to global knowledge and harmony. Publicize it on your own websites. People can find it if they want. You don't have to repeatedly post the same stuff over and over to a bunch