Re: [agi] Re: Merging - or: Multiplicity

2008-05-28 Thread William Pearson
2008/5/27 Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Will:And you are part of the problem insisting that an AGI should be tested by its ability to learn on its own and not get instruction/help from other agents be they human or other artificial intelligences. I insist[ed] that an AGI should be tested on

Re: [agi] Design Phase Announce - VRRM project

2008-05-28 Thread William Pearson
2008/5/27 Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: William, This sounds like you should be announcing the analysis phase! Detailed comments follow... Design/research/analysis, call it what you will. On 5/26/08, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VRRM - Virtual Reinforcement Resource

Re: [agi] Re: Merging - or: Multiplicity

2008-05-28 Thread Mike Tintner
Steve: I have been advocating fixing the brain shorts that lead to problems, rather than jerking the entire world around to make brain shorted people happy. Which brain shorts? IMO the brain's capacity for shorts in one situation is almost always a capacity for short-cuts in another - and

Re: Merging threads was Re: Code generation was Re: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-28 Thread Mike Tintner
Steve/Stephen: I am planning to archive all conversations .This is pretty simple with text, but when things move into real-time moving images from which to understand the world, this takes a little more storage. No one's yet actually trying to develop movie AI/AGI - an intelligence that

Re: Merging threads was Re: Code generation was Re: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-28 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/5/28 Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No one's yet actually trying to develop movie AI/AGI - an intelligence that can live in and/or respond to a continuous movie[s] of the world, are they? Ben's system, from the v. little I saw, gestures at this, but falls short. I'm doing stuff with

Re: Merging threads was Re: Code generation was Re: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-28 Thread Mike Tintner
Bob: I'm doing stuff with robotics which is mostly about processing sequences of images (I call the offline playbacks used for parameter optimisation dream sequences), although probably what I'm doing doesn't qualify as AGI in a strict sense - it's more reminiscent of the Grand/Urban Challenge

Re: Merging threads was Re: Code generation was Re: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-28 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/5/28 Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sounds interesting. Can you give us a little more detail (or link). What kind of robot, where? Doing what? Watching what movie? And how does it dream - optimise/correct actions? Link: http://code.google.com/p/sentience/ A picture of the robot:

Re: [agi] Design Phase Announce - VRRM project

2008-05-28 Thread Steve Richfield
William, On 5/27/08, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/27 Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Systems now crash NOT because of the lack of some whiz-bang technology, but because architectural development has been in a state of arrested development for the last ~35 years.

[agi] Adaptivity in Hybrid Cognitive Systems Osnabruck PhD program

2008-05-28 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
I'm not affiliated but I've found this interesting. They seem to have 8 positions for PhD students: http://www.cogsci.uni-osnabrueck.de/PhD/GK/ Their research program is really worth checking-out: http://www.cogsci.uni-osnabrueck.de/PhD/GK/research/body.html

[agi] U.S. Plan for 'Thinking Machines' Repository

2008-05-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Fellow AGI-ers, At the risk of being labeled the list's newsboy... U.S. Plan for 'Thinking Machines' Repository Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday May 28, @07:19PM from the save-those-ideas-for-later dept. An anonymous reader writes Information scientists organized by the U.S.'s NIST say

Re: [agi] Consciousness vs. Intelligence

2008-05-28 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consciousness with minimal intelligence may be easier to build than general intelligence. General intelligence is the one that takes the resources. A general consciousness algorithm, one that creates a consciousness in any environment may be simpler

Re: Competitive message routing protocol (was Re: [agi] Deliberative vs Spatial intelligence)

2008-05-28 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- J. Andrew Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an increasingly strong political incentive (between countries) to create distributed indexes, but quite frankly the technology does not exist. This was something I studied in earnest when various governments started demanding such