Re: [agi] Breaking Solomonoff induction (really)

2008-06-21 Thread William Pearson
2008/6/21 Wei Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A different way to break Solomonoff Induction takes advantage of the fact that it restricts Bayesian reasoning to computable models. I wrote about this in is induction unformalizable? [2] on the everything mailing list. Abram Demski also made similar points

[agi] Approximations of Knowledge

2008-06-21 Thread Jim Bromer
I just read Abram Demski's comments about Loosemore's, Complex Systems, Artificial Intelligence and Theoretical Psychology, at http://dragonlogic-ai.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-recently-read-article-called-complex.html I thought Abram's comments were interesting. I just wanted to make a few

Re: [agi] Breaking Solomonoff induction (really)

2008-06-21 Thread Abram Demski
Quick argument for the same point: AIXI is uncomputable, but only considers computable models. The anthropic principle requires a rational entity to include itself in all models that are given nonzero probability. AIXI obviously cannot do so. Such an argument fails for computable approximations

Re: [agi] Approximations of Knowledge

2008-06-21 Thread Steve Richfield
Jim, On 6/21/08, Jim Bromer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The major problem I have is that writing a really really complicated computer program is really really difficult. The ONLY rational approach to this (that I know of) is to construct an engine that develops and applies machine knowledge,

Re: [agi] Approximations of Knowledge

2008-06-21 Thread Abram Demski
To be honest, I am not completely satisfied with my conclusion on the post you refer to. I'm not so sure now that the fundamental split between logical/messy methods should occur at the line between perfect approximate methods. This is one type of messiness, but one only. I think you are

Re: [agi] Approximations of Knowledge

2008-06-21 Thread Steve Richfield
Abram, A useful midpoint between views is to decide what knowledge must distill down to, to be able to relate it together and do whatever you want to do. I did this with Dr. Eliza and realized that I had to have a column in my DB that contained what people typically say to indicate the presence