Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-30 Thread Jean-Paul Van Belle
Not quite on the grammar topic but on the related topic of 'restricted vocabulary': A couple of us have been/are considering using Simple (or the alternative Basic) English or other restricted vocabulary sets. IMHO There are actually two issues here: (1) you may wish to have a simplified

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-30 Thread Mike Dougherty
On 4/29/07, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something fascinating going on here - if you could suspend your desire for precision, you might see that you are at least half-consciously offering contributions as well as objections. (Tune in to your constructive side). suspended. I

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-30 Thread Mark Waser
To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:35 AM Subject: Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN? Not quite on the grammar topic but on the related topic of 'restricted vocabulary': A couple of us have been/are considering using Simple (or the alternative Basic) English

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-30 Thread Richard Loosemore
Mike Dougherty wrote: On 4/29/07, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea that human beings should constrain themselves to a simplified, artificial kind of speech in order to make life easier for an AI, is one of those Big Excuses that AI developers have made, over the years, to

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-30 Thread Charles D Hixson
: Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN? On 4/29/07, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea that human beings should constrain themselves to a simplified, ... ? ok, I know t... enough) - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe

[agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-29 Thread Mike Tintner
OK, here I think is the simplest test of adaptivity that cuts right to the heart of the matter, and provides the most central measure of ADAPTIVE (i.e. DIVERGENT) intelligence as distinct from CONVERGENT, algorithmic intelligence. My assumption: your system has this agent/guy moving around a

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-29 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
My assumption: your system has this agent/guy moving around a home/office environment. [Adjust question accordingly if not] He has a simple task: Move from A to B or D. But the normal answer Walk it is for whatever reason no good, blocked. The simple test is this: how many alternative ways of

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-29 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
What is harder is as follows: if goals G1 and G2 look to be related, and the system has learned a bunch of ways to fulfill G1; then, this latter fact should make it easier for the system to find ways to fulfill G2 (than if it hadn't learned ways to fulfill G1 already). This is known as transfer

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-29 Thread Mike Dougherty
On 4/29/07, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has a simple task: Move from A to B or D. But the normal answer Walk it is for whatever reason no good, blocked. Disambiguate- 1. Move from starting point A to either B or D 2. Move from either A to B or take another option D I feel we

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-29 Thread Richard Loosemore
Mike Dougherty wrote: On 4/29/07, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has a simple task: Move from A to B or D. But the normal answer Walk it is for whatever reason no good, blocked. Disambiguate- 1. Move from starting point A to either B or D 2. Move from either A to B or take another

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-29 Thread Mike Tintner
pedantic or literal. - Original Message - From: Mike Dougherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN? On 4/29/07, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has a simple task: Move from

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-29 Thread Mike Dougherty
On 4/29/07, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea that human beings should constrain themselves to a simplified, artificial kind of speech in order to make life easier for an AI, is one of those Big Excuses that AI developers have made, over the years, to cover up the fact that

Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN?

2007-04-29 Thread Mike Tintner
] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [agi] HOW ADAPTIVE ARE YOU [NOVAMENTE] BEN? On 4/29/07, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea that human beings should constrain themselves to a simplified, artificial kind of speech in order to make life