Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-19 Thread Ian Parker
What is the difference between laying concrete at 50C and fighting Israel?. That is my question my 2 pennyworth. Other people can elaborate. If that question can be answered you can have an automated advisor in BQ. Suppose I want to know about the characteristics of concrete. Of course one thing

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-19 Thread Mike Tintner
Ian: Suppose I want to know about the characteristics of concrete You seem to think you can know about an object without ever having seen it or physically interacted with it? As long as you have a set of words for the world, you need never have actually experienced or been in the world? You

[agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread deepakjnath
I wanted to know if there is any bench mark test that can really convince majority of today's AGIers that a System is true AGI? Is there some real prize like the XPrize for AGI or AI in general? thanks, Deepak --- agi Archives:

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread Panu Horsmalahti
2010/7/18 deepakjnath deepakjn...@gmail.com I wanted to know if there is any bench mark test that can really convince majority of today's AGIers that a System is true AGI? Is there some real prize like the XPrize for AGI or AI in general? thanks, Deepak Have you heard about the Turing

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread deepakjnath
Yes, but is there a competition like the XPrize or something that we can work towards. ? On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Panu Horsmalahti nawi...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/18 deepakjnath deepakjn...@gmail.com I wanted to know if there is any bench mark test that can really convince majority

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread David Jones
not really. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:41 AM, deepakjnath deepakjn...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but is there a competition like the XPrize or something that we can work towards. ? On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Panu Horsmalahti nawi...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/7/18 deepakjnath

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread A. T. Murray
Deepak wrote on Sun, 18 Jul 2010: I wanted to know if there is any bench mark test that can really convince a majority of today's AGIers that a System is true AGI? Obvious AGI functionality is the default test for AGI. http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/AiMind.html is an incipient AGI with

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread Ian Parker
In my view the main obstacle to AGI is the understanding of Natural Language. If we have NL comprehension we have the basis for doing a whole host of marvellous things. There is the Turing test. A good question to ask is What is the difference between laying concrete at 50C and fighting Israel.

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread David Jones
Ian, Although most people see natural language as one of the most important parts of AGI, if you think about it carefully, you'll realize that solving natural language could be done with sufficient knowledge of the world and sufficient ability to learn this knowledge automatically. That's why i

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread David Jones
Oh, I wanted to add one thing that I've learned recently. The core problem of AGI is to come up with hypotheses (hopefully the right hypothesis or one that is good enough is included) and then determine whether the hypothesis is 1) acceptable and 2) better than other hypotheses. In addition, you

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread Steve Richfield
Deepak, An intermediate step is the reverse Turing test (RTT), wherein people or teams of people attempt to emulate an AGI. I suspect that from such a competition would come a better idea as to what to expect from an AGI. I have attempted in the past to drum up interest in a RTT, but so far, no

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread Colin Hales
Try this one ... http://www.bentham.org/open/toaij/openaccess2.htm If the test subject can be a scientist, it is an AGI. cheers colin Steve Richfield wrote: Deepak, An intermediate step is the reverse Turing test (RTT), wherein people or teams of people attempt to emulate an AGI. I suspect

Re: [agi] Is there any Contest or test to ensure that a System is AGI?

2010-07-18 Thread Michael Swan
Numbers combined together are a form of language that can form every other language. and... If you insist on using a natural language, why don't you use the language most natural to computers - ie code ( which can directly translates to numbers - machine language ...) Code is better because