Re: [agi] really cool

2003-02-26 Thread Stephen Reed
Regarding the Google voice search technology...

Maybe no IP/phone number mapping whatsoever as the web page says that the
system has very limited capacity.  So the search results page could be
shared among all users.

I imagine that the Google service is aimed at cell phone users and that
the (to be developed) cell phone client application would take care of
associating the voice search message with the resulting text search
answers.

-Steve

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Brad Wyble wrote:

 They are not mapping to IP addresses, probably geography as Ben suggests.  I went to 
 the search window and intercepted searches done by other people.

 -Brad


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Re: [agi] really cool

2003-02-25 Thread C. David Noziglia



Are you using an IP phone on your office network? Or a 
DSL connection at home?
Those would be less general, and less cool, than Ben's 
suggestion.

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  - Original Message - 
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  Ben Goertzel 
  
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  I suppose they match geographical 
  information about the IP address with caller ID info?
  
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    [agi] really cool

Those guys at Google sure are imaginative! I was 
wowed by this application and I'm still not sure how they are doing 
it. You call a number and say the search keywords you want to search 
on...it then displays the results in your browser.

I have no idea how they are connecting my cell phone 
number with *my* computer.

try it out..

http://labs1.google.com/gvs.html

Kevin




Re: [agi] really cool

2003-02-25 Thread Brad Wyble
They are not mapping to IP addresses, probably geography as Ben suggests.  I went to 
the search window and intercepted searches done by other people.  

-Brad


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Re: [agi] really cool

2003-02-25 Thread Ed Heflin
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 They are not mapping to IP addresses, probably geography as Ben suggests.
I went to the search window and intercepted searches done by other people.


Ockham's razor is useful for this one...I believe it's a simple server-side
FIFO system...NB Google's not mapping [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For additional practice encounters with simplicity try...
http://cs.bluffton.edu/~scoffman/trick.html ...but don't cut yourself
shaving ;-)

Just my $0.02 worth. EGHeflin

 -Brad


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Re: [agi] really cool

2003-02-25 Thread Ed Heflin

- Original Message -
From: Brad Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [agi] really cool


 
   They are not mapping to IP addresses, probably geography as Ben
suggests.
  I went to the search window and intercepted searches done by other
people.
  
 
  Ockham's razor is useful for this one...I believe it's a simple
server-side
  FIFO system...NB Google's not mapping [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  For additional practice encounters with simplicity try...
  http://cs.bluffton.edu/~scoffman/trick.html ...but don't cut yourself
  shaving ;-)
 
  Just my $0.02 worth. EGHeflin

 Nice illustration, although that's a fairly simple one to guess.

 In this case, I can't imagine a simple FIFO would work because it can't
scale.  You are essentially proposing that as soon as any person in the
entire world submits a voice request, everyone else in the world who's
viewing that page gets their search results.

 It would work for a very small number of users, but beyond a certain
number, your search results would only be available for hundreds of
milliseconds if not less.

 If Google applied the FIFO to a rough geography mapping, they would cut
the userbase into manageable chunks.  Mapping IP address to phone exchanges
isn't hard if you've got the data.  Cell phones are tricky though, but then,
it's possible that their network can reverse map to the cell network that
handles your call, rather than the phone number itself.

 I'm willing to believe Google can get this information.

Interesting idea...should be testable and in a number of ways.  But keep in
mind you want to be testing what Google is actually doing not what they
might be able to do with this or that piece of information or technology.

It seems to me that if both you and a friend can access nearly
simultaneously the same results from a 'speak search', e.g. say AGI, then
the server-side interpretation is proved.  If you're happier with a
client-side interpretation try the system for a land v. based cell call and
compare results.

etcI'm open to testing... ;-)

 Just my $0.02 worth. EGHeflin


 -Brad


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