RE: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values

2003-02-11 Thread Philip Sutton
Ben/Bill, My feeling is that goals and ethics are not identical concepts. And I would think that goals would only make an intentional ethical contribution if they related to the empathetic consideration of others. So whether ethics are built in from the start in the Novamente architecture

RE: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values - plus early learning

2003-02-11 Thread Philip Sutton
Ben, Right from the start, even before there is an intelligent autonomous mind there, there will be goals that are of the basic structural character of ethical goals. I.e. goals that involve the structure of compassion, of adjusting the system's actions to account for the well-being of

RE: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values

2003-02-11 Thread Bill Hibbard
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Philip Sutton wrote: Ben/Bill, My feeling is that goals and ethics are not identical concepts. And I would think that goals would only make an intentional ethical contribution if they related to the empathetic consideration of others. . . . Absolutely goals (I prefer

Re: [agi] AGI morality - goals and reinforcement values

2003-02-11 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Bill Hibbard wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Philip Sutton wrote: Ben/Bill, My feeling is that goals and ethics are not identical concepts. And I would think that goals would only make an intentional ethical contribution if they related to the empathetic consideration of others. Absolutely