RE: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
For example, a question to Ben - Novamente is designed to achieve complex goals in complex environment but what goals in what environments should it achieve before you can call it a 100% complete AGI? Well, it's clear that truly general intelligence is possible only under conditions of

Re: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Dmitri
Well it seems more important to create some practical but imprecise formula rather than a strict mathematical definition - offering as much insight as a highly intelligent human is a good way to put it and something which can be verified. However aren't we limiting ourselves and making the task

Re: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread peiwang
From: Dmitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] how is the problem of defining intelligence handled by various acclaimed authors? I only know about the Turing test but that's only one possible way and one which is quite impractical. I have a brief summary of the definitions, as I see them, in the Section

Re: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Martin Striz
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:40:41 +0300, Dmitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My personal opinion is that general intelligence is a lot more than anything of the above but I cannot find a good criterion/definition of AGI. There is probably not one absolute definition. Humans themselves have a

RE: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
What I'd like to see are reasonably powerful theorems of the form: In order to display general intelligence of level L according to definition G, using computational resources R, a system must display structures S and dynamics D. I'll be content that a definition of general intelligence is

Re: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Erik Starck
At 18:40 2005-03-24 Dmitri wrote: My personal opinion is that general intelligence is a lot more than anything of the above but I cannot find a good criterion/definition of AGI. Why do you need a definition? Also, how is the problem of defining intelligence handled by various acclaimed

RE: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Ben Goertzel
Well it seems more important to create some practical but imprecise formula rather than a strict mathematical definition - offering as much insight as a highly intelligent human is a good way to put it and something which can be verified. However aren't we limiting ourselves and making the

Re: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Dmitri
Well, if someone has a goal of creating artifical intelligence, he has to find a way to determine when the goal is achieved, otherwise creating artificial intelligence is the same as creating something I don't know what. However to me it is more interesting not to find an single exact definition

Re: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 02:45:42PM -0500, Martin Striz wrote: There is probably not one absolute definition. Humans themselves have a repertoire of domain-specific cognitive adaptations coupled with a limited ability at general problem solving, but we classify ourselves as general

Re: [agi] What is Artificial (General) Intelligence?

2005-03-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 12:00:19AM +0300, Dmitri wrote: Well, if someone has a goal of creating artifical intelligence, he has to find a way to determine when the goal is achieved, otherwise creating artificial intelligence is the same as creating something I don't know what. This has