Re: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-18 Thread Matt Mahoney
Pei, you classified NARS as a principle-based AI. Are there any others in that category? What about Novamente? -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 11:51:58 AM

Re: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-18 Thread Pei Wang
Of course, I know many people won't agree with my classification, and many projects are pursuing multiple goals, according to this classification. One example is Novamente --- Ben wants (almost) everything. ;-) In the following webpage I just updated, you can see where I put some representative

Re: Re: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-18 Thread Ben Goertzel
According to your classification, structure (e.g., to build brain models) behavior (e.g., to simulate human mind) capability (e.g., to solve hard problems) function (e.g., to have cognitive facilities) principle (e.g., to be adaptive and rational) Novamente is based on the final 3 categories,

Re: Re: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-18 Thread Pei Wang
On 11/18/06, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to your classification, structure (e.g., to build brain models) behavior (e.g., to simulate human mind) capability (e.g., to solve hard problems) function (e.g., to have cognitive facilities) principle (e.g., to be adaptive and

Re: Re: Re: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-18 Thread Ben Goertzel
Agree, too --- that is why I said you want almost everything. However, whenever a design decision is made, you usually consider more about the system's problem-solving ability, and less about the consistency of its theoretical foundation --- of course, you may argue that it don't conflict with

Re: Re: Re: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-18 Thread Pei Wang
So you are moving in the right direction. ;-) Pei On 11/18/06, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree, too --- that is why I said you want almost everything. However, whenever a design decision is made, you usually consider more about the system's problem-solving ability, and less

Re: Re: Re: Re: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-18 Thread Ben Goertzel
But of course, practical ability is the foremost thing in my mind when working on AGI design ... my point is just that I will definitely make small sacrifices in the practical ability of particular system components in order to increase the simplicity and principledness of the overall design.

RE: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-17 Thread Peter Voss
Hi Pei, Just finished reading your Rigid Flexibility book; it's a nice summary of your approach. I can recommend it to anyone interested in AGI: If you agree with Pei's general approach it provides quite a bit a detail; if you disagree, it provides a coherent reference point. Peter

Re: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-17 Thread Pei Wang
Peter, Thanks! I look forward to the day when you can tell us more about a2i2. :-) Pei On 11/17/06, Peter Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pei, Just finished reading your Rigid Flexibility book; it's a nice summary of your approach. I can recommend it to anyone interested in AGI: If you

RE: [agi] new paper: What Do You Mean by AI?

2006-11-17 Thread Peter Voss
That'll be when you join our project... ... or buy our product... :) -Original Message- From: Pei Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter, Thanks! I look forward to the day when you can tell us more about a2i2. :-) Pei On 11/17/06, Peter Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pei,