BUS: Fwd: Judgment in CFJs 1956-57

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
Uh, ttwtcnsykwIttra (this time with the CFJ numbers so you know what I'm trying to rule about). I rule as follows in CFJs 1956 and 1957: Rule 2166 says that the owner of an asset generally CAN transfer it to another entity, so ehird CAN transfer a crumpet in eir possession to a pen. The court

BUS: Questions

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
1. Who manages agoranomic.org? It could use an update (about a year out of date). 2. Should we designate one of these backup lists as the unofficial discussion-forum? Some of us are sending mail to one while others are sending mail to the other.

BUS: Proposal: Empower the Notary

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
I submit the following proposal: Empower the Notary AI: 1 II: 1 { Append to R2173 (The Notary): {{ The Notary CAN terminate any contract without objection. }} } BobTHJ

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5541-5545

2008-06-11 Thread Quazie
5541 O0 1ais523 Motto of the Monster FOR x 4 5542 O1 1.7 Wooble equation as amendment AGAINST x 4 5543 D1 2Murphy Faster support FOR 5544 D1 2.1 ais523 Justice is Injustice AGAINST 5545 O1 1ehird AGORA FOR x 2 AGAINST x 1

BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5541-5545

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I vote as follows: 5541 O0 1ais523 Motto of the Monster FOR * 4 5542 O1 1.7 Wooble equation as amendment AGAINST * 4 5543 D1 2Murphy Faster support FOR 5544 D1 2.1 ais523 Justice is Injustice AGAINST 5545 O1 1ehird AGORA PRESENT --Wooble

BUS: Re: BAK: OFF: [Notary] Contracts and Changes

2008-06-11 Thread Charles Reiss
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Name: PerlNomic Partnership Contest: false Publicity: public Pledge: false Parties: Pavitra, Wooble, chuck, woggle Claim of Error: The current list of parties to the PerlNomic Partnership is Pavitra, Wooble, abliss,

BUS: Judgment in CFJs

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
Rule 2166 says that the owner of an asset generally CAN transfer it to another entity, so ehird CAN transfer a crumpet in eir possession to a pen. The court rejects H. Ivan Hope CXXVII's assertion that a pen, being a fungible entity, cannot own different assets than another pen with the same

BUS: Vote resubmission

2008-06-11 Thread Benjamin Schultz
I had a connection problem between my ISP and agoranomic.org. If my votes on Props. 5538 - 5545 got bounced, then the following has mostly no effect: 5538: FOR 5539: 7 x FOR 5540: FOR (but since our Monster is not biological, this seems to be currently a no-op) 5541: 3xFOR, 3 x AGAINST

BUS: lateJudgement of CFJ 1964

2008-06-11 Thread comex
(I forgot about this one.) By the precedent of CFJ 1738, if ihope had had the RIGHT to do what e wilt, then Rule 2149 would conflict with this right and would be invalid. However, e only had the PRIVILEGE to do so. R101's treatment of rights is a lot stronger than of privileges. Nevertheless,

BUS: The Agoran Proposal Awards

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
I intend to create the following contract (once somebody agrees to it): 1. The name of this contract is The Agoran Proposal Awards. The Host for this contract is BobTHJ. 2. Any player may become party to this contract by announcement. Any person may cease to be party to this contract by

BUS: Re: Dragonomic

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, without objection, to flip the Recognition of Dragonomic to Neutral. Without objection, I perform the above action. Ambassador BobTHJ

BUS: Votes

2008-06-11 Thread Benjamin Schultz
5538: FOR 5539: 7 x FOR 5540: FOR (but since our Monster is not biological, this seems to be currently a no-op) 5541: 3xFOR, 3 x AGAINST 5542: 3xFOR, 3 x AGAINST 5543: FOR 5544: AGAINST : 7 x AGAINST (BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO BUFFALO makes sense, but this proposal

BUS: Bank of Agora report

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
Date of last report: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:24 Date of this report: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:27 (All times are UTC) Player Banker SincePens --- AFOThu, 17 Apr 2008 14:53 716 BobTHJ Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:19

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Why can't non-players be contestmasters?

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drat. I intend, without 3 objections, to amend the PRS contract by prepending the following to section #1: { This is a Public Contract named the Points Relay Service (PRS). } without 3 objections I make the above change.

BUS: PNP Voting

2008-06-11 Thread The PerlNomic Partnership
This message serves to make votes on behalf of the PerlNomic Partnership (a public contract). The PerlNomic Partnership votes as follows. Each vote is made a number of times equal to the PerlNomic Partnership's EVLOD on each ordinary decision listed below. Each decision is identified by the

Re: BUS: The Agoran Proposal Awards

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to create the following contract (once somebody agrees to it): 1. The name of this contract is The Agoran Proposal Awards. The Host for this contract is BobTHJ. I agree to this contract. --Wooble

BUS: RE: Re: BAK: OFF: [Notary] Contracts and Changes

2008-06-11 Thread Alexander Smith
woggle wrote: Claim of Error: The current list of parties to the PerlNomic Partnership is Pavitra, Wooble, abliss, ais523, chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED], comex, ehird, erez [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ivan Hope CXXVII, jay [EMAIL PROTECTED], norgg [EMAIL PROTECTED], and woggle. This was announced in

BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5546

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5546 D0 2ais523 Monstrous Decrees COE: You missed my proposal Empower the Notary (though to be fair I sent it to A-B, and it may not have gone through...let me know if you don't have

Re: BUS: Re: AAA proposal

2008-06-11 Thread Ian Kelly
There not having been three objections, I hereby make the changes quoted below to the AAA contract. -root On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now the AAA contract is easier to amend, I intend to make the changes quoted below without three objections. Right now

BUS: AAA purchase

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I attempt to purchase a Mill. --Wooble

Re: BUS: The Agoran Proposal Awards

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to create the following contract (once somebody agrees to it): 1. The name of this contract is The Agoran Proposal Awards. The Host for this

BUS: Agoran Proposal Awards - Report

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
AGORAN PROPOSAL AWARDS Time of last report: (none) Time of this report: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:02 PARTIES --- BobTHJ Wooble ELIGIBLE PROPOSALS (Jun 2 - Jun 8) -- NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE x5528 D1 3ais523 none x5529 D0 3ais523 none

BUS: AAA subsidization

2008-06-11 Thread Alexander Smith
I request subsidization. -- ais523

BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5546

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5546 D0 2ais523 Monstrous Decrees FOR BobTHJ

Re: BUS: AAA purchase

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attempt to purchase a Mill. I revoke 3 points from Wooble. I create a Mill (land #87) with an Operator of + (Addition) in the possession of Wooble BobTHJ

Re: BUS: AAA subsidization

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I request subsidization. -- ais523 I create a Digit Ranch (land #88) with a Seed of 1 and a WRV in the possession of ais523. SoA BobTHJ

Re: BUS: intent to bank

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend, with the consent of the other Bankers, to cause the Bank of Agora to join the Points Relay Service. Still need consent from the AFO to do this one. I intend, without 3 objections, to add the Bank of Agora to the

Re: BUS: AAA subsidization

2008-06-11 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: I request subsidization. So do I. (This may be unsuccessful.)

BUS: Inactivity

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I intend, without objection, to flip Iammars' Activity to Inactive. I intend to deputise for the Tailor for the purpose of publishing eir report. --Wooble

BUS: [IADoP] Assessor election

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
This (very late and overlooked; my apologies) message initiates the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Assessor office. The valid options are ROOT and MURPHY, the eligible voters are the active players, and the vote collector is the IADoP. --Wooble

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5546

2008-06-11 Thread Quazie
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5546 D0 2ais523 Monstrous Decrees COE: You missed my proposal Empower the Notary (though to be fair I sent it to

Fwd: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5541-5545

2008-06-11 Thread Quazie
This never went through it seems, it was sent before i was potentially deregistered. -- Forwarded message -- From: Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:59 PM Subject: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5541-5545 To: Agora Business

Fwd: DIS: Re: BUS: RE: Re: BAK: OFF: [Notary] Contracts and Changes

2008-06-11 Thread Quazie
pf -- Forwarded message -- From: Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:48 AM Subject: DIS: Re: BUS: RE: Re: BAK: OFF: [Notary] Contracts and Changes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] COE: Comex is a member of Objectionable

RE: DIS: Re: BUS: RE: Re: BAK: OFF: [Notary] Contracts and Changes

2008-06-11 Thread Alexander Smith
Quazie wrote: COE: Comex is a member of Objectionable Admitted.

Re: BUS: [IADoP] Assessor election

2008-06-11 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: This (very late and overlooked; my apologies) message initiates the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Assessor office. The valid options are ROOT and MURPHY, the eligible voters are the active players, and the vote collector is the IADoP. I vote for root, and

RE: BUS: [IADoP] Assessor election

2008-06-11 Thread Alexander Smith
Murphy wrote: Wooble wrote: This (very late and overlooked; my apologies) message initiates the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Assessor office. The valid options are ROOT and MURPHY, the eligible voters are the active players, and the vote collector is the IADoP. I vote

BUS: RE: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5546

2008-06-11 Thread Alexander Smith
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5546 D0 2ais523 Monstrous Decrees I vote FOR. -- ais523

Re: BUS: [IADoP] Assessor election

2008-06-11 Thread Quazie
I vote for root. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Murphy wrote: Wooble wrote: This (very late and overlooked; my apologies) message initiates the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Assessor office. The valid options are ROOT and MURPHY,

Re: BUS: The Agoran Proposal Awards

2008-06-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to create the following contract (once somebody agrees to it): 1. The

Re: BUS: The Agoran Proposal Awards

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I object. You should at least make it a public contract first. Grumble, grumble...I always forget that bit (though I guess it isn't technically required in this case): I intend without three objections to amend the Agoran

BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
AGORAN AGRICULTURAL ASSOCIATION REPORT Time of last report: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:47 Time of this report: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:54 Maximum Points Awardable: 55 Federal Subsidy: 7 CROPS VOUCHERS FARMER 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 X WRV

BUS: AAA Change - no more freebies for partnerships

2008-06-11 Thread Roger Hicks
I intend without three objections to amend the AAA agreement as follows: { In section 16 replace: {{ Once each week, a farmer who at the beginning of that week owned fewer lands than the Federal Subsidy may 'request subsidization' by announcement. }} with: {{ Once each week, a first-class farmer

Re: BUS: AAA - Secretary of Agriculture Report

2008-06-11 Thread Quazie
I request subsidization.

BUS: AAA farming

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I harvest 1990, the number of a CFJ, to gain 2 WRV. I scratch my head and try to work out a lot of modulo 11 math, then give up on milling anything for the moment. --Wooble

BUS: AAA change

2008-06-11 Thread Taral
I propose, without 3 objections, to amend the AAA to change the text: d. Within one week after an existing rule is amended, a Farmer CAN once Harvest the ID number of that rule. As soon as possible after doing so, the SoA shall create floor(P) Crops of random types in that Farmer's possession,

BUS: AAA actions

2008-06-11 Thread Taral
I mill 6 + 4 to get X. I harvest 5544, a Democratic Proposal, to get 4 points. I harvest 1991, a CFJ, for 2 WRV. I mill 7 + 4 to get 0. I harvest 1990, a CFJ, for 2 WRV. I mill 6 * 9 to get X. I harvest 1990, a CFJ, for 2 WRV. (9s are finally paying off.) -- Eris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please let me

Re: BUS: [IADoP] Assessor election

2008-06-11 Thread Taral
On 6/11/08, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This (very late and overlooked; my apologies) message initiates the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Assessor office. The valid options are ROOT and MURPHY, the eligible voters are the active players, and the vote collector is

BUS: AAA farming again, milling company contract

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
Needed lunch for smartmaking. I harvest 2000, the ID number of a CFJ, to gain 2 WRV. I mill 7 + 3 to gain an X crop. I mill 7 + 4 to gain a 0 crop. I mill 7 * 7 to gain a 5 crop. I mill 7 + 9 to gain a 5 crop. I become bound by the following contract: 1. This is a public contract bound by the

BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5546

2008-06-11 Thread Ian Kelly
5546 D0 2ais523 Monstrous Decrees FOR -root

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5546

2008-06-11 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: COE: You missed my proposal Empower the Notary Admitted. It'll be in the next batch. -zefram

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5546

2008-06-11 Thread Zefram
Quazie wrote: COE: you missed my proposal let me live which was sent to backup. Denied: you weren't a player at the time, and so couldn't submit a proposal. (Of course, if the CFJs find otherwise, I'll process the proposal then.) -zefram

BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5546

2008-06-11 Thread Zefram
I hereby vote: 5546 D0 2ais523 Monstrous Decrees FOR -zefram

BUS: Re: BAK: I see what you did there

2008-06-11 Thread Zefram
Elliott Hird wrote: I intend, with Agoran Consent, to act on behalf of Agora to award a win to Teh Cltohed Mna Ni Teh Drak Woh Wtaches Adn Nevre Sasy A Wrod Execpt Wehn Psoessed Yb Dmeons Mcuhly Precocupied. I object. -zefram

Re: BUS: Contestmastering

2008-06-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I join the Fantasy Rules Contest. Without three objections, I intend to make the FRC a contest (note: it already is one) with myself as its contestmaster. Without three objections, I make the FRC a contest with myself as its

Re: BUS: [IADoP] Assessor election

2008-06-11 Thread Nick Vanderweit
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This (very late and overlooked; my apologies) message initiates the Agoran Decision to choose the holder of the Assessor office. The valid options are ROOT and MURPHY, the eligible voters are the active players, and the

BUS: banking and farming

2008-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Spear
I set the exchange rate of 2 crops to 96.0 / 97.0 I trade 194 pens for 2 2 crops. I harvest 2206, a new rule number, to gain a random land. --Wooble

BUS: AAA

2008-06-11 Thread Charles Reiss
I join the AAA. I request subsidization. -woggle