BUS: Stamp Creation

2017-10-24 Thread Telnaior
I transfer 6 shinies (the Stamp Cost) to Agora to create a Stamp. This leaves me with 49 shinies, and Agora maybe 9? Hard to tell with the distribution. I would also like to remind everyone of the following text in the "Assets" Rule:     When a player causes one or more balances to change, e

Re: BUS: [Notary] Regulation Recommendation Notice

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
I support. -Aris On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:45 PM Telnaior wrote: > I support. > > > On 2017-10-25 16:35, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > Pursuant to rule 2493 (“Regulations”), I intend, without 2 objections or > with consent, to recommend the following regulation. This regulation

Re: BUS: [Notary] Regulation Recommendation Notice

2017-10-24 Thread Telnaior
I support. On 2017-10-25 16:35, Owen Jacobson wrote: Pursuant to rule 2493 (“Regulations”), I intend, without 2 objections or with consent, to recommend the following regulation. This regulation is purely a formality, as the values it sets are the default values for the relevant switches,

BUS: [Notary] Regulation Recommendation Notice

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
Pursuant to rule 2493 (“Regulations”), I intend, without 2 objections or with consent, to recommend the following regulation. This regulation is purely a formality, as the values it sets are the default values for the relevant switches, but I wanted to test the regulation process and make sure

Re: BUS: [Secretary] Basic income distribution

2017-10-24 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 00:30 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I cause Agora to make the following payments, which I believe can be > uniquely decomposed into the individual payments required by “Passive > Income”: > > * 8 sh. to ProofTechnique > * 8 sh. to ais523 > * 4 sh. to G. I create a Stamp.

BUS: [Secretary] Basic income distribution

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
I’m going to do this longhand, to make sure that I get it right. As I read the rules, if any of the following is incorrect, only the affected distributions fail. Per the rule titled “Passive Income”, the tax rate is presently 50. As no income distribution has previously occurred, all payments

BUS: Re: OFF: [Surveyor] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
I claim a reward of 5 sh. for publishing the Surveyor’s weekly report. -o > On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:20 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

BUS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Agora Sky News, vol. 5

2017-10-24 Thread Josh T
I claim a reward of 5 Shinies for the quoted report. I actually went and read the Dawnsbergen blurb for the first time and was pleasantly surprised. I'll give the first person to point out why a Shiny for their efforts. Also, for next issue I'm going to have to read a lot of things, it seems.

BUS: [Contract] This is a stupid idea

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
I create the following contract by paying agora 1 shiny. It is to be entitled "Judicial Activism: the Contract". The text of the contract shall be the following {{Any player may become a party to this contract by announcement. This contract shall not be interpreted in any way by its plain text,

Re: BUS: State of the Onion

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:08 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > If I can, I initiate an election for Notary. I want this office - like > Secretary and modern Referee, it revolves around document tracking, which I > rather enjoy - but in fairness my performance in my other offices

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
I pay the community chest 2 shinies. use it folks. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:08 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > > > The most recent resolution, on Oct 22, which accidentally omitted the > full text. But the

BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:08 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > The most recent resolution, on Oct 22, which accidentally omitted the full > text. But the proposal that did it was "Contracts v8”. Ah, thanks. That’s exactly what I needed. I claim a reward of 5 sh. for the most recent

BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
CoE: No organization owns a shiny, as of the adoption of proposal 7924 ("Contracts v8”). -o > On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:59 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > As Treasuror, I flip the Floating Value to 24. > > Treasuror's Weekly Report > > Date of this report: > Date of last report:

BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
Oh my god! It costs more than 1 shiny to pend a proposal! This is practically _unconstitutional_ I buy a stamp. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > As Treasuror, I flip the Floating Value to 24. > > Treasuror's Weekly Report > > Date of this report: > Date

Re: BUS: Intent

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 24, 2017, at 2:48 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > >> On Oct 22, 2017, at 12:46 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> I intend, in between 2 and 14 days, to deputize for the positions of >> Referee and Surveyor, for the purposes of publishing the weekly >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
I stand for election. I submit the following campaign proposal, and pend it by paying Agora 1 shiny. Title: Farm No More AI: 2 Author: o Repeal rule 2504, 2502, 2501, and 2503. -o > On Oct 24, 2017, at 5:49 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > I do so. > > On Tue, Oct 24,

Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:53 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > >> If I am not the Referee, I deputise for that position and publish the >> following. If I am, I accept o's CoE and publish the following. I > > COE: I think o objected to the

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [(Deputy) Referee] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:17 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I CFJ, spending an AP to do so, on the statement “V.J Rada is the Referee.” I retract this CFJ. On review of the relevant rules, I’m convinced that V.J Rada’s attempt to deputize succeeded. -o signature.asc

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

2017-10-24 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:12 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:08 PM Alexis Hunt wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> 7940* Alexis, [3]3.0 High

BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Alexis Hunt
Apologies for not catching this before, but CoEs: - I've held Tailor since I deputized on October 1. - Quazie became speaker at some point that isn't entirely clear, but definitely hasn't been since September. See CFJ 3573. Other than some word wrapping errors, I don't see any other mistakes.

BUS: Re: DIS: [Promotor] Revised Draft

2017-10-24 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 22:01 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > 7940* Alexis, [3]3.0 High Power Cleanup Alexis 1 AP > I withdraw this proposal, submit the following, and pend it: Proposal: High Power Cleanup (AI=3) {{{ Text in square brackets is

Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-24 Thread Aris Merchant
Well, this seems like a fine basis for doing these. This is a notice of honor: {{ ProofTechnique loses 1 karma for being inactive. Trigon gains 1 karma for being an active new player. }} -Aris On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:47 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > This is a notice of honour > > I

BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
This is a notice of honour I remove 1 Karma from omd for not existing (next up, in order: ProofTechnique, Ienpw III and Bayushi!) I give 1 Karma to Telnaior because technically I brought em back and I think that's cool, also e's been pretty clever & stuff. -- >From V.J. Rada

BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
Another thing is you should probably list Referee as disputed to avoid it self-ratifying. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > Another CoE: o. resigned as agronomist, that office is vacant. > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:03 AM, VJ Rada

BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
Another CoE: o. resigned as agronomist, that office is vacant. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:03 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > CoE. > You need by rule to state the date of last election AND whether the > position is interim (probably by replacing the "Can Elect" column with > "Interim").

BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
CoE. You need by rule to state the date of last election AND whether the position is interim (probably by replacing the "Can Elect" column with "Interim"). Also, the "Can Elect" criteria are completely different now. Also, the office of superintendent doesn't exist. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:34

BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 19:34 ATMunn wrote: > My first report! You may notice that this looks different in some ways > than what you're used to; I have changed some formatting things from > V.J. Rada's last ADoP report (mainly the spacing, but also some minor > details)

BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
CoE: I am the Assessor. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 19:34 ATMunn wrote: > My first report! You may notice that this looks different in some ways > than what you're used to; I have changed some formatting things from > V.J. Rada's last ADoP report (mainly the spacing, but

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
I initiate and stand for the election. My campaign proposal is as follows. Title: Agronomist-Surveyor Combination Author: VJ Rada Text: Repeal rule 2504 "The Agronomist". Amend rule 2488 "The Surveyor" by adding the text at the end "The Surveyor's weekly report includes: A list of Farms and their

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ratification (Quasi-Resolution of PM and ADoP Elections)

2017-10-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
Notice of Honour: Loser: VJ Rada, for making an unnecessary mess of this office by issuing cards when issues of office ownership unresolved. Gainer: o, whom I generally trust to clean up such messes. On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > If I am the referee, I am incapable of imposing a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
I do so. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I support as well. > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 03:13 Owen Jacobson, wrote: >> >> >> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> > >> > Yep. I intend to, with two

Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

2017-10-24 Thread Alexis Hunt
I don't believe the rules respect objections to deputisation intents. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, 04:54 Ørjan Johansen, wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: > > > If I am not the Referee, I deputise for that position and publish the > > following. If I am, I accept o's CoE

Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

2017-10-24 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, VJ Rada wrote: If I am not the Referee, I deputise for that position and publish the following. If I am, I accept o's CoE and publish the following. I COE: I think o objected to the relevant intents (before seeing if you had resolved them), so if you weren't the Referee

Re: BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
CoE: I'm a scrub and missed my own Yellow and Green cards just handed out. On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:14 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > If I am not the Referee, I deputise for that position and publish the > following. If I am, I accept o's CoE and publish the following. I > found the

BUS: [Referee] Weekly Report: Possibly Revision 1.

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
If I am not the Referee, I deputise for that position and publish the following. If I am, I accept o's CoE and publish the following. I found the two green cards and two pledges that o referred to. I also found my finger point and two points from Alexis, although you did say "several", o, so if I

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool (revised)

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
I cannot issue a card as this is beyond the statute of limitations. If I am the Referee, I issue myself a green card by summary judgement for not responding to this in a timely way. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I Point a Finger at Aris, alleging that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ratification (Quasi-Resolution of PM and ADoP Elections)

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
If I am the referee, I am incapable of imposing a card here as this pointing is now beyond the statute of limitations. I issue a Green Card to myself by Summary Judgement for not responding to this in a timely way (if I am the referee). On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Alexis Hunt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rules

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
PF On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:37 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > If I am the Referee, I resolve this finger-pointing as SHENANIGANS. As > I have (if I am Referee) already issued Gaelan a yellow card, it would > be ILLEGAL for me to issue another. > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:33 AM,

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [(Deputy) Referee] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
It's a "report" unless it is intentionally inaccurate, or grossly negligent. In fact, more than that, it is a report unless it is "equivalent in severity to lying in the report or not publishing it". Judge, I would hesitate in here applying this standard, although it appears to be rather

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [(Deputy) Referee] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
I CFJ, spending an AP to do so, on the statement “V.J Rada is the Referee.” On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 4:50 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > Having intended to deputise for this position over 2 days ago (in a > message sent to A-B called "Intent", I deputize for the referee and > publish

BUS: Re: OFF: [(Deputy) Referee] Weekly Report

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
CoE: This “report” omits several finger-pointings by Alexis, one by V.J Rada, two pledges, and two green cards. This plays bloody havoc on my intent to publish a ref’s report, though. -o > On Oct 24, 2017, at 1:50 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Having intended to deputise for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:12 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Yep. I intend to, with two support, initiate an Agronomist election > (the position is interim). I support. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-24 Thread VJ Rada
Yep. I intend to, with two support, initiate an Agronomist election (the position is interim). On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> I straight-up resign. >> >> If it is possible for me to do so, I initiate an

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7930

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
I vote as follows: > ID Author(s) AI Title Pender Pend fee > --- > 7930* G.1.7 Appeals improvements G. 1 sh. FOR. -o signature.asc Description:

BUS: State of the Onion

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
Hi folks, fellow Agorans, spectators, et al: I’m tremendously sorry for my performance in the past week and a half. I have no excuse, and what explanation I have is insufficient. I put myself at the centre of a number of key mechanics - shinies, contracts, comestibles, cards, and more - and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Agoran Newspaper Repeal

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 22, 2017, at 7:40 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > > By the by, I forgot o. is also the agronomist. I intend to deputize > for the position to publish its weekly report. I straight-up resign. If it is possible for me to do so, I initiate an election for the office of

Re: BUS: Intent

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 22, 2017, at 12:46 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > I intend, in between 2 and 14 days, to deputize for the positions of > Referee and Surveyor, for the purposes of publishing the weekly > reports of each of those positions. I object to the intent to deputize for Surveyor as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Notice of Honour

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 22, 2017, at 12:27 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > That reminds me, I intend to deputize for referee. I object. P.S.S. also reached out to me personally about deputizing for this office. I’m content (bordering on eager; it’s a fascinating office) to continue in it, or

BUS: CFJ 3568 judged FALSE.

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Oct 21, 2017, at 7:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The option selected is REMAND. CFJ 3568 is therefore rendered open > (and remains assigned to o for judgement). I find this CFJ to be FALSE, following the caller’s arguments exactly. The alleged claim of error was >

Re: BUS: Registration and Apology

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 20, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Telnaior wrote: > > I flip my Citizenship to Registered. > > For recordkeeping purposes, my username is Telnaior and I was previously > deregistered in 2014. > > Anyways, I'm going to apologise, I feel bad for causing trouble so early but >

BUS: Re: OFF: [Reportor] Agora Silly News, Vol. 

2017-10-24 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Josh T wrote: > > == > === Agora Silly News === > Vol. === I pay the Reportor at the time of the above newspaper 2 sh.