Jason wrote:
> On 3/1/20 2:16 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
> > If it were IMPOSSIBLE for Cuddlebeam to consent to actions, I would argue
> > that this didn’t work.
> >
> > Luckily, it isn’t. As far as I can tell, contracts can't make actions
> > IMPOSSIBLE, only ILLEGAL.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> Assuming this is the case, I deputise for the PM to appoint twg
> Speaker. I award myself Cyan glitter.
I award myself a Platinum Ribbon (for real this time).
-twg
I cause CuddleBeam to become a candidate for Prime Minister.
Election speech: "braaiiins"
In the ongoing Prime Minister election, I vote [CuddleBeam, G., Aris],
and I cause Bernie and CuddleBeam to endorse me.
I pledge to give (or grant, or otherwise enable ownership of) 600 coins
to
CuddleBeam wrote:
> So, yeah. Pretty much carte blanche, really.
Sweet!
I resign Tailor. I deputise for Tailor to grant Alexis 19 coins for eir
Emerald Glitter (awarded Feb 27, after the Notary election). I award
myself Cyan Glitter for deputising for Tailor.
I perform the following actions 200
CuddleBeam wrote:
> I'm fully in twg's hands right now and aside from asking them to take
> measures to fulfill the contract as intended (I should've probably added
> that as a clause to the pledge, nw I understand why many contracts have
> clauses like that), I assume full responsibility for
I cause myself to become CuddleBeam's Active Supermaster by pledging the
following:
I Pledge that I will cause Cuddlebeam to Win Agora within 90 days. The
"N" of this Pledge, for the purpose of its Class N Crime of Oathbreaking
is a googleplex.
-twg
Murphy wrote:
> I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Rulekeepor
> election.
I vote, and I cause Bernie to vote, to endorse the Rulekeepor.
-twg
Alexis wrote:
> On February 29, twg and Jason were awarded the title of
> Champion, categorized as High Score.
CoE: A typo in your Champion announcement meant you attempted (and
failed?) to award Falsifian Champion instead of me.
-twg
I vote as follows:
> ID Author(s)AITitle
> ---
> 8342j Gaelan, [1] 2.0 Calls with Memoranda
Conditional: AGAINST if Gaelan votes AGAINST; otherwise PRESENT
> 8343j twg
Murphy wrote:
> Quorum of 7 is met. twg is elected Referee.
I award myself Emerald Glitter.
-twg
CuddleBeam wrote:
> A Supermaster becomes Active (and ceases to be Inactive) by Pledging the
> following:
> "I Pledge that Cuddlebeam will Win Agora within 90 days. The "N" of this
> Pledge, for the purpose of its Class N Crime of Oathbreaking is a
> googleplex.".
Actually, upon re-reading, I'm
CuddleBeam wrote:
> I create the following contract with myself called "履✨Chattelbeam✨履":
>
> --*--
>
> This contract only has up to two parties, one of the which is the
> Superzombie and the other is the Supermaster.
>
> A Player can become the Supermaster by announcement unless a Player already
G. wrote:
> I think Jason's qualification on the extraneous CAN gets it right:
>
> > though this could be interpreted as making
> > a document purporting to be a Notice of Honour an actual, official
> > Notice of Honour. I do not rule on this matter here, this is simply on
> > observation.
>
>
Alexis wrote:
> I initiate an election for Notary. I resign Notary.
Gaelan wrote:
> I become a candidate.
On behalf of Gaelan: TTttPF.
-twg
=== CFJ 3816 ===
The Arbitor is REQUIRED to grant Gaelan 5 coins by announcement
for the judgement of CFJ 3806.
==
Caller:G.
I wrote:
>
> The Ribbon Bar (Tailor's Monthly Report)
>
>
> Date of this report: 2020-02-18
> Date of last report: 2020-01-14
> (all
Alexis wrote:
> I point a finger at myself for failing to appoint a Speaker in a timely
> fashion.
Oh good grief, I'm not _that_ disappointed - just found it ironic that
I'd been narrowly beaten to Speaker twice in short succession (first by
Falsifian). The chances that my not getting platinum
Jason wrote:
> Depending on how evil I was feeling as Assessor, I could probably
> construe that has having your zombie endorse me.
*sigh*
I cause Bernie to retract all eir votes in Agoran decisions on whether
to adopt a proposal that are currently in their voting periods.
I cause Bernie to
Jason wrote:
> Since there was apparently no actual zombie auction, I still have Rance.
> I cause Rance to vote to ENDORSE me in every Agoran decision on whether
> to adopt a proposal currently in its voting period.
Oh, right. I do the same for Bernie.
-twg
Alexis wrote:
> I point a finger at myself for failing to publish the Herald's weekly
> report last week.
>
> I point a finger at myself for failing to publish a correction to the
> Herald's weekly report after Gaelan's CoE in a timely fashion.
>
> I request that the Referee note that these are
G. wrote:
> I point a finger at Gaelan for failure to judge CFJ 3795 in a timely
> fashion. I recuse em from this case.
> I point a finger at omd for failure to judge CFJ 3804 in a timely
> fashion. I recuse em from this case.
These infractions undeniably occurred. They were not profitable,
I vote as follows:
> ID Author(s)AITitle
> ---
> 8322* Falsifian, Alexis, twg 3.0 Unrepetition v1.1
Why not? ENDORSE Falsifian.
> 8323* Jason3.0 Secure Ribbons
Conditional:
I wrote:
> I submit the following proposal:
>
> Title: 풥퓊풹풾풸풾풶퓁 풥표풸퓊퓁풶퓇풾퓉퓎 풜풸퓉
> Adoption index: 1.7
> Chamber: Justice
> Author: twg
> Co-authors:
>
> Amend Rule 591, "Delivering Judgement", by replacing each occurrence of
> "DISMISS" with "¯\(ツ)/¯".
>
> [Very few CFJs get judged DISMISS at the
Jason wrote:
> On 2/14/20 12:59 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> > *sigh*
> >
> > CFJ, barring Falsifian: "Falsifian was awarded a Red Ribbon today."
> >
> > Arguments:
> >
> > Rule 2438 says:
> >
> >
Falsifian wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 02:18, Jason Cobb via agora-official
> wrote:
> > PROPOSAL 8308 (Imposing order on the order)
> ...
> > OUTCOME: ADOPTED
>
> I award myself a Red ribbon.
*sigh*
CFJ, barring Falsifian: "Falsifian was awarded a Red Ribbon today."
Arguments:
Rule 2438
Aris wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 5:09 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Happy birthday! I grant Falsifian 3 coins.
> >
> >
>
> Likewise!
So do I!
-twg
Jason wrote:
> PROPOSAL 8311 (Rewards Patch & Equitable Remedy)
> FOR (9): Alexis%, Aris, Bernie, Falsifian$, Gaelan, Jason, Rance, omd, twg&
> AGAINST (0):
> PRESENT (0):
> BALLOTS: 9
> AI (F/A): 34/0 (AI=1.0)
> OUTCOME: ADOPTED
I award myself an Orange Ribbon.
-twg
I believe that Proposal 8311 grants coins as follows. I encourage
everyone to check the total for their name and issue doubts if they
believe them to be inaccurate.
Assuming I receive no CoEs, I plan to include the below coin totals in
the forthcoming Treasuror report.
I believe that rewards now
Murphy wrote:
> I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Referee
> election.
I vote [twg, Alexis].
> I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Registrar
> election.
I vote [Falsifian, Gaelan].
I cause Bernie to endorse me in both elections.
-twg
I pay 1000 coins to win the game.
-twg
Murphy wrote:
> Office Interest
>
> Treasuror Efficiency, Efficiency
>
CoE: The Treasuror's Interest is [Economy, Economy].
-twg
Murphy wrote:
> Alexis wrote:
>
> > I intend, with 2 Support, to initiate an election for each of the
> > following offices:
> >
> > * Assessor, as I'm dissatisfied with the sparse content of resolutions;
> > * Notary, as it is a brand new office;
> > * Rulekeepor, as it is interim; and
> > *
Gaelan wrote:
> Crap, Jason’s bid came in as I was writing this message. I point my
> finger at myself for violating rule 2550/1: {A person SHALL NOT bid on
> an Auction if it would be impossible for em to pay that amount at the
> conclusion of the Auction.}
Unless I'm misreading this, it's
Alexis wrote:
> I withdraw the proposal 'Zombie trade'. I point my finger at Aris for
> failing to respond to the cited CoE in a timely fashion.
It's a fair cop.
There's no sense in which Aris' infraction was willful/profitable/etc.,
but it, combined with the original error in the proposal's AI,
I wrote:
> Hmm, interesting one! We've all been doing this for ages without ever
> questioning whether it was actually POSSIBLE. As far as I can tell, the
> earliest usage was by D. Margaux in 2018
> (https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg32681.html),
> but nobody CFJed it
Gaelan wrote:
> FYI, for anyone in need of a more up-to-date ruleset, my online ruleset
> viewer (https://agora-ruleset.gaelan.me) is based on the Rulekeepor’s
> GitHub repository, so it may be (and is, at the moment) more up to date
> than the latest SLR.
Notice of Honour:
+1 Gaelan (helpfully
It's now been 7 days since the latest possible time my Raised Banner
could have taken effect (2020-02-01 22:34 UTC), so I can once again
receive Ribbons and Glitter.
I temporarily deputise for the ADoP to end the uncontested election for
Tailor, appointing myself to the office. (This requires no
Gaelan wrote:
> PLEDGE
> |Jason Promises to Reassess Jason|
> |MADE: Jan 30 2020 13:33|WINDOW: 7dy|EXPIRES: Feb 06 2020 13:33|N: 2|
>
Jason wrote:
> Sorry, do people have other support/objections for these? I would prefer
> not to just let them die.
I object to the capitalisation one for the same reason as Alexis.
I object to the lists one because the example given is very confusing.
It's not an inline list because it's
Somewhat belatedly, I recuse myself from CFJ 3793. Sorry. I thought I
understood it at first, but the new arguments are just making my head
spin and I can't figure out what the right answer should be. It does,
however, seem to be fairly widely accepted that the auction rules are
broken in _some_
(sorry this is late! Laptop crashed while the compose window was open so
it disappeared into my drafts and I thought I'd sent it already.)
Warrigal wrote:
> twg: 8, J. Total: 18.
> twg may hit, stand, double down, or surrender. Recommended action: stand.
Good call :P I stand.
-twg
Alexis wrote:
> We are also in the unfortunate situation that we do not know if twg
> has won the game, as a result of the Lime Ribbon award.
Ooh, good point!
Convergence: I award myself a Lime Ribbon; I Raise a Banner.
(Disclaimer: These actions may fail if I have already performed them.)
-twg
I vote as follows:
> 8308& Falsifian3.0 Imposing order on the order
Endorse Falsifian
> 8309* Alexis 3.0 A Degree of Inefficiency
AGAINST per Aris
> 8310& Jason, Alexis3.0 Deputisation timeliness
PRESENT. Seems inoffensive, but I haven't
Notice of Honour:
+1 Gaelan
(I knew what was going to happen and it was still one of the most
hilarious things I've seen in Agora.)
-1 Baron von Vaderham (presently designated karma source)
-twg
Jason wrote:
> On 1/28/20 10:26 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
>
> > //
> > ID: 8305
> > Title: Keeping Up With the Times
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: Alexis
> > Co-authors:
> >
> > Amend Rule 1367 (Degrees) by
I wrote:
> Gaelan wrote:
> > NOTARY'S REPORT OF JANUARY 29 2020
>
> Ooh, just occurred to me you don't have a Ministry set! That probably
> wants doing. I reckon Economy probably fits best, since the Ministries
> rule specifically calls out contracts ("private enterprise") as falling
> under
Gaelan wrote:
> NOTARY'S REPORT OF JANUARY 29 2020
Ooh, just occurred to me you don't have a Ministry set! That probably
wants doing. I reckon Economy probably fits best, since the Ministries
rule specifically calls out contracts ("private enterprise") as falling
under Economy.
Only the ADoP can
Having achieved a full set of 16 Ribbons, including the new Emerald
Ribbon, I Raise a Banner, causing me to win the game.
-twg
=== CFJ 3800 ===
It is POSSIBLE for a player, having given appropriate notice and
received Agoran satisfaction, to clean Rule 2496 by replacing the
word 'result' in the phrase 'times the adoption index of the
Jason Cobb wrote:
> PROPOSAL 8291 (Interesting Chambers v3.1)
> FOR (8): Alexis, Aris, Bernie, Falsifian, Gaelan, Jason, Rance, twg
> AGAINST (0):
> PRESENT (1): omd
> BALLOTS: 9
> AI (F/A): 25/0 (AI=3.0)
> OUTCOME: ADOPTED
Thank you for your help, Bernie.
I award Bernie a Red Ribbon and an
G. wrote in "Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals
8287-8307":
> On 1/28/2020 8:16 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On 1/28/20 11:12 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 7:47 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
> >> wrote:
> >>> I
I expunge my blot.
I earn 5 coins for this week's Treasuror report.
I earn 5 coins for this week's Referee report.
-twg
Warrigal wrote:
> I intended to realize the infinite shoe
I object, just in case.
-twg
Alexis wrote:
> I think this needs to be addressed properly in the judgment. I intend, with
> 2 support, to group-file a motion to reconsider CFJ 3793.
>
> I will likely have more argument on this but not at the moment, figure I
> should get the intent going though.
Aris wrote:
> I support.
I
Matthew Berlin wrote:
> If you publish a hash of the shoe beforehand, and the entire shoe
> afterwards for verification of the hash, you might get more takers,
I know next to nothing about blackjack, but that sounds like it might be
difficult if the "shoe" is "infinite" as Warrigal says in eir
I wrote:
> === CFJ 3793 ===
>
> Rance’s master switch is set to Gaelan.
>
> ==
>
> Caller:Gaelan
>
> Judge: twg
>
=== CFJ 3793 ===
Rance’s master switch is set to Gaelan.
==
Caller:Gaelan
Judge: twg
Judgement:
Alexis wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 11:29, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business
> wrote:
>
> > Cyan Glitter: I earn 8 coins.
> >
> > -twg
>
> I believe this fails as the current glitter value for cyan is 7.
So it is. Bloody deregistrations.
Cyan Glitter: I earn 7 coins.
-twg
I wrote:
> I intend, with 2 days' notice, to temporarily deputise for the ADoP to
> end the uncontested election for Treasuror, thereby installing myself.
Having given notice, I do so.
I award myself an Emerald Ribbon.
Cyan Glitter: I earn 8 coins.
-twg
G. wrote:
> Since that judge was me, a comment. There are actually two questions.
> (1) Was is a report satisfying the requirement to publish all
> information once per week, and (2) what was the actual, effective date
> of the report (the backdate listed, or the datestamp on the message?)
> From
I earn 5 coins for publishing this week's Referee report.
Whichever one it actually was...
-twg
I wrote to BUS at 16:44 UTC on 2020-01-24:
> I impose Summary Judgement by levying a fine of 1 blot on myself (twg).
> The specific reason for this fine is that it is setting up the
> conditions for a CFJ.
I wrote to OFF at 17:05 UTC on 2020-01-24:
>
G. wrote:
> Having sufficient consent, I award twg the patent title Orator.
Thank you. I'm honoured.
Violet Glitter: I earn 9 coins.
-twg
I impose Summary Judgement by levying a fine of 1 blot on myself (twg).
The specific reason for this fine is that it is setting up the
conditions for a CFJ.
-twg
I wrote:
> I intend w/o objection to clean R2160 by replacing "deputisiation" with
> "deputisation".
Having heard no objection, I do so.
-twg
Falsifian wrote:
> I resign as Treasuror.
>
> In case a future Treasuror is interested in continuing this, I'll note
> that I've been archiving reports, and maintaining a "fresh.txt"
> containing a potentially-fresher state, in a git repository in Agora's
> GitHub project. I doubt anyone will want
I vote as follows:
> IDAuthor(s)AITitle
> ---
> 8287 twg 2.0 Blot Stabilisation
FOR.
> 8288 omd 1.0 Glitteral
Does not conflict with 8295 if adopted
Aris wrote:
> I warrant and affirm that I am not aware of any exploitable bug or
> loophole in any of the proposals in the current distribution and that
> I do not intend to use any of them as a part of a scam. I further
> warrant and affirm that I am not making this statement in an attempt
> to
Jason Cobb wrote:
> I don't think this is an actual requirement. According to Rule 2141, "a
> rule [...] is always taking effect", which means that "before the end of
> the next Agoran week" could be interpreted as always being in the
> future, so the time limit for the requirement never ends.
I cause Bernie to submit the following proposals:
Title: Interesting Chambers v3.1
AI: 3.0
Author: Bernie
Co-authors: Trigon, Aris, Gaelan, G., Jason Cobb, twg
Enact a new Rule of Power 2.0, entitled "Ministries", with
Gaelan wrote:
> Congratulations, this made me chuckle. I’d give you a karma for it, but
> unfortunately I’ve already used my notice this week.
On behalf of Bernie, Notice of Honour:
+1 Aris (entertaining CFJ judgement)
-1 Gaelan (improper budgeting of eir Notice of Honour allocation :P)
-twg
G. wrote:
> Heh. Deja vu all over again.
>
> So this whole issue was brought up in Jan 2019, and resulted in CFJs
> 3693-3694. The Judge's full arguments (below) appeared only in
> discussion, and there was a big thread (referenced below). The judge
> of CFJ 3694 found that zombie auctions
Gaelan wrote:
> CFJ: Rance’s master switch is set to Gaelan.
I favour this CFJ, unless someone else who's already submitted arguments
favours it more.
-twg
I intend w/o objection to clean R2160 by replacing "deputisiation" with
"deputisation".
-twg
Falsifian wrote:
> The January zombie auction has ended.
>
> On 2020-01-07 at 07:03 UTC, I initiated a zombie auction. It ended
> 2020-01-14 at 07:03 UTC. Here are the lots, winners, and winning bids:
>
> Lot Winner Bid, in Coins
> --- - -
> o G. 111
> Bernie
Jason Cobb wrote:
> I already tried this.
>
> Gratuitous:
>
> CFJ 3748 [0].
>
> [0]: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3748
Awwwh.
I withdraw my CFJ.
-twg
I wrote:
> I warrant that I did not intentionally include loopholes in any of the
> proto-proposals I supplied in the referenced message. (Ribbons are
> Serious Business.)
Alexis wrote:
> A warranty that you did not make any loopholes in a proto makes the
> eventual proposal itself even more
I wrote:
> Here's a proto...
I warrant that I did not intentionally include loopholes in any of the
proto-proposals I supplied in the referenced message. (Ribbons are
Serious Business.)
-twg
I wrote:
>
> The Police Blotter (Referee's Weekly Report)
>
>
> Date of this report: 2020-01-14
> Date of last report: 2020-01-08
> (all
G. wrote:
> I point my finger at nch for failure to publish a tailor's monthly report in
> December. (2 missed months is a bit much).
This infraction is not minor, but neither is it profitable or abusive.
Therefore I levy a fine of 2 blots on nch for Tardiness.
-twg
I initiate an election for Tailor, becoming a candidate.
Campaign speech: In addition to the Tailor's legislated duties, I will
maintain a list of the current rewards associated with Rule 2602
(Glitter). An example of the format can be found in the report I
published a moment ago.
I earn 5 coins
Alexis wrote:
> I initiate an election for Referee. I become a candidate.
>
> Campaign speech: I will use the power to impose Summary Judgement
> capriciously and arbitrarily, however, not against anyone who votes for me.
This fails; you are not the incumbent or the ADoP, so you require 2
support
I wrote:
> I throw my hat into the ring.
Honestly expected someone to CFJ this, but oh well.
Just in case it wasn't sufficient, I become a candidate for Treasuror.
-twg
Gaelan wrote:
> I bid 20 coins.
Jason Cobb wrote:
> I bid 21 coins.
Gaelan wrote:
> I bid 22 coins.
:|
I bid 50 coins.
-twg
Jason Cobb wrote:
> > 8285 Alexis 3.0 Line-Item Roulette
>
> AGAINST. This proposal does not secure specifications of indeterminacy,
> so a power-0.1 could potentially tamper with higher-power rules by
> specifying data the higher-powered rule depends on as indeterminate, or
I vote as follows:
> ID Author(s)AITitle
> ---
> 8280 Murphy, Jason Cobb 3.0 Resolve the troubles v1.1
PRESENT per Gaelan
> 8281 Gaelan 1.0 Nothing to see here, Rule
Falsifian wrote:
> I initiate an election for the office of Treasuror.
>
> This quarter is a bit busy for me. I am probably going to resign as
> Treasuror in a week or two if nobody has already taken the office. I
> plan to continue as Registrar. I might take up Treasuror again later
> if it's
I wrote:
> Date of this report: 2020-01-08
> Date of last report: 2019-12-04
> (all times UTC)
I earn 5 coins for the referenced Referee weekly report.
-twg
Falsifian wrote:
> I initiate a zombie auction, with the following lots (each zombie a
> separate lot) ordered as follows (highest-bid first):
>
> 1. o
> 2. Bernie
> 3. Rance
>
> Agora is the Auctioneer, and the Registrar is the Announcer. The
> currency is Coins with a minimum bid of 1.
I bid 20
Gaelan wrote:
> TTttPF
>
> Also, I create the following contract: {
> Any person may become a party of this contract to act on Gaelan’s behalf as
> described below.
>
> Any person may act on Gaelan’s behalf to perform a series of actions, subject
> to the following conditions:
> * Gaelan
Aris wrote:
> It sounds reasonable to me. Also, a reminder to everyone (well, mostly
> the H. Herald and H. Referee) that it's a new quarter.
Nobody's been impure for quite some time so it doesn't really make much
difference over here.
I submit this proposal:
-- start of proposal --
Title:
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