BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8672-8674
secretsnail9 via agora-official [2022-05-01 18:49]: > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > I deputize as Promotor to hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating > a referendum on it, > and removing it from the proposal pool. I vote as follows. > 8672* Murphy 3.0 Inclusivity AGAINST. I strongly believe we either must have a serious discussion about a formal language for rules (or, more appropriatly, rule snippets), or we should just stick to standard natural language. I really oppose this sort of pseudo-code format strings that can't reasonably be considerer a natural use of language. A better way to do it would be to create a rule, or perhaps append to this one, definitions of particular standards. That is, if the level of explicitness put forth by this proposal is considered necessary, then we should make it so. This would necessitate, I believe, a study into the ontology of the rules. That is, what kind of entity can a rule demand to be reasonable? Actions? Propositions? Predicates on actions? Predicates on propositions? Etc. I am willing to contribute to this. --- > 8673& Murphy 1.0 Mine! AGAINST. I don't unserstand stones. I don't like stones. Sticks and stones MAY break my bones, but, in the words of the popular philospher collective Eels: > [⋯] I won't listen to their words > 'Cause I like > Birds (Eels, I Like Birds) --- > 8674& nix 1.0 Proper Postage v2 AGAINST. I appreciate the reordering, but I don't believe we should mint peoples' stamps for them. The point of stamps, in my view, is that the only ones in existence are the ones their types have minted. Contracts fall in this category, as the action is made on behalf. This proposal, however, breaks that rule. I'd rather increase the boatloads. -- juan
BUS: [Promise, Birds] I don't want to win, but I want birds
I grant the library the following promise:
{
Cashing conditions: the beared has transfered me no less than 50 BoC in the
same message as e cashes this promise; e hasn't cashed any other promises in
that message; and e specified one type of card I own.
I transfer one card of that type to the bearer.
I buy a beast permit for 50 BoC.
}
--
juan
BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8672-8674
On 5/1/22 19:49, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: > 8672* Murphy 3.0 Inclusivity FOR > 8673& Murphy 1.0 Mine! AGAINST > 8674& nix 1.0 Proper Postage v2 FOR -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
(@Assessor) BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8672-8674
On Sun, 2022-05-01 at 18:49 -0500, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 8672* Murphy 3.0 Inclusivity > 8673& Murphy 1.0 Mine! > 8674& nix 1.0 Proper Postage v2 On each of these referenda, I vote PRESENT. (I don't have a strong opinion about any of them.) -- ais523
BUS: (@Treasuror) Equivalent Exchange + Wealth
I transfer 5 winsomes to G. I wield the wealth stone. -- secretsnail
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Intent to award Employee of the Year 2021
I support the intent below.
On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 10:21 AM Edward Murphy via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> For each of the players in the following {}-delimited list, I intend
> (with 2 Agoran Consent) to award em the Patent Title of Employee of the
> Year 2021 (which will be allowed by Herald regulation HR4 if enacted):
>
>{ais523, Aspen, ATMunn, Falsifian, G., Jason, Murphy, nix, R. Lee,
> Telna, Trigon}
>
> These are the players who published at least 13 weekly reports and/or
> 3 monthly reports during 2021. (Does not include revisions. Jason's
> year-long service as Assessor is also not included below, as none of eir
> duties involve a report; in particular, while the Promotor has a weekly
> report even if the pool was already empty, if there are no proposals to
> assess in a given week then the rules don't require the Assessor to
> announce that fact.)
>
> adop=> select
>p.player_name, o.office_name, f.frequency_name,
>count(distinct date_trunc('week', e.event_timestamp))
> from events e
>join officeso on o.office_id = e.office_id
>join playersp on p.player_id = e.acting_player_id
>join event_typest on t.event_type_id = e.event_type_id
>join report_frequencies f on f.frequency_id = e.frequency_id
> where e.event_timestamp >= '2021-01-01'
>and e.event_timestamp < '2022-01-01'
>and t.event_type_name = 'Report published'
> group by p.player_name, o.office_name, f.frequency_name
> order by p.player_name, o.office_name, f.frequency_name;
>
> player_name | office_name | frequency_name | count
> --+---++---
> ais523 | Mad Engineer | Weekly |14
> Aspen| Promotor | Weekly |30
> Aspen| Registrar | Monthly| 2
> Aspen| Registrar | Weekly |11
> ATMunn | Notary| Weekly |27
> cuddlybanana | Webmastor | Monthly| 1
> Falsifian| Registrar | Monthly| 3
> Falsifian| Registrar | Weekly |12
> G. | Arbitor | Weekly |21
> G. | Mad Engineer | Weekly | 3
> G. | Ministor | Monthly| 4
> G. | Referee | Weekly |11
> G. | Tracker of the Device | Weekly |11
> Gaelan | Referee | Weekly | 8
> Jason| Referee | Weekly | 1
> Jason| Rulekeepor| Monthly|10
> Jason| Rulekeepor| Weekly |23
> Jason| Stonemason| Weekly |30
> Jason| Webmastor | Monthly| 1
> JTAC | Referee | Weekly | 5
> Murphy | ADoP | Weekly |48
> Murphy | Tailor| Monthly|12
> Murphy | Tailor| Weekly |41
> nix | Herald| Monthly| 9
> nix | Herald| Weekly | 2
> nix | Ministor | Monthly| 7
> nix | Ministor | Weekly | 1
> nix | Webmastor | Monthly| 2
> R. Lee | Ministor | Monthly| 1
> R. Lee | Referee | Weekly |13
> R. Lee | Registrar | Monthly| 1
> R. Lee | Registrar | Weekly | 5
> Shy Owl | Registrar | Monthly| 1
> Shy Owl | Registrar | Weekly | 4
> Telna| Arbitor | Weekly |13
> Trigon | Treasuror | Monthly| 5
> Trigon | Treasuror | Weekly |45
> Ubercrow | Tailor| Weekly | 1
> (38 rows)
>
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Intent to award Employee of the Year 2021
On 5/2/22 22:39, Sarah S. via agora-business wrote: > I support the intent below. This fails. There is no single such intent. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy-Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8672-8674
I vote: On 5/1/2022 4:49 PM, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 8672* Murphy 3.0 Inclusivity AGAINST. Thought about this for a good bit. I'm not convinced that "reasonable" shouldn't stay wholly contextual/common law - we're accepting a lot of complex multipart moves that I'd call "reasonable for a well-informed officer but not "reasonable to players in general" so I'm wondering if this truly codifying the existing precedents or if this is making things more stringent. Either way, maybe need more discussion on this one. > 8673& Murphy 1.0 Mine! FOR. Stones. Birds. Birdstones. Stoned birds. Love it. > 8674& nix 1.0 Proper Postage v2 FOR - unlike the stamp-creating bird previously proposed, I think handing someone their own stamp (which they can hold or straight out destroy if they want) is reasonably welcoming/doesn't take any meaningful control of stamps from each player? -G.
Re: BUS: More Elections
On 5/1/22 20:04, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > I initiate an election for Arbitor. I become a candidate in this election. Of the ongoing elections (besides PM), this is the one I feel willing and able to do. I'm happy to let someone else do it (or Secretsnail9 if eir total office count was lower, as it might be after these elections). -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
BUS: [Proposal] Just become entirely clear
I submit the following proposal, and pay a pendant to pend it.
{
Title: Let's make it entirely clear
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: secretsnail
Co-author(s):
Amend Rule 2621 (VP Wins) by replacing "If a player has at least 20 more
Winsomes than any other player" with "If a player has at least 20 more
Winsomes than each other player".
}
--
secretsnail
BUS: [Proposal] VP Win clarification
I submit the following proposal, and pend it by paying a fee of 1 pendant.
{
Title: Let's make it clear
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: secretsnail
Co-author(s):
Amend Rule 2621 (VP Wins) by replacing "If a player has at least 20 more
Winsomes than any other player" with "If a player has at least 20 more
Winsomes than all other players".
}
--
secretsnail
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Intent to award Employee of the Year 2021
I support each of Murphy's intents to award the title "Employee of the Year" On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 1:10 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/2/22 22:39, Sarah S. via agora-business wrote: > > I support the intent below. > > > This fails. There is no single such intent. > > -- > Jason Cobb > > Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason > >
