Re: BUS: Intent to Begin Nomaoic
On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 7:48 PM grok wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 7:33 PM nix via agora-business < > agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 9/1/20 7:26 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> > >> > On 9/1/20 2:17 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: >> >> I do so. >> >> >> >> Players may register by a public message; after that, they take turns >> (making a proposal and gaining a random number of points) every 24-48 hours >> by privately messaging me. Proposals are Suber-style, so each proposal must >> create, amend, repeal, or transmute exactly one rule. Votes are also by >> private messages to me. (There is no AGAINST vote; proposals pass as soon >> as the required percentage of registered players vote for.) I'll publish >> the hashes of any proposals that I receive, and announce when proposals >> pass, but proposal text and the resulting ruleset are secret. When sending >> proposals, it would be nice if you could include its SHA256 hash, so I can >> ensure that I calculate it the same way you do. There is a mechanism for >> discovering rules; see rule 213. Good luck and have fun! >> >> >> >> Gaelan >> >> >> > >> > I become a player in Nomaoic. >> > >> > -- >> > Jason Cobb >> > >> >> I also become a player in Nomaoic. >> >> -- >> nix >> Prime Minister, Webmastor >> > > i become a player in nomaoic > ttpf >
Re: BUS: Intent to Begin Nomaoic
On 9/1/20 7:26 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 9/1/20 2:17 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: >> I do so. >> >> Players may register by a public message; after that, they take turns >> (making a proposal and gaining a random number of points) every 24-48 hours >> by privately messaging me. Proposals are Suber-style, so each proposal must >> create, amend, repeal, or transmute exactly one rule. Votes are also by >> private messages to me. (There is no AGAINST vote; proposals pass as soon as >> the required percentage of registered players vote for.) I'll publish the >> hashes of any proposals that I receive, and announce when proposals pass, >> but proposal text and the resulting ruleset are secret. When sending >> proposals, it would be nice if you could include its SHA256 hash, so I can >> ensure that I calculate it the same way you do. There is a mechanism for >> discovering rules; see rule 213. Good luck and have fun! >> >> Gaelan >> > > I become a player in Nomaoic. > > -- > Jason Cobb > I also become a player in Nomaoic. -- nix Prime Minister, Webmastor
Re: BUS: Intent to Begin Nomaoic
On 9/1/20 2:17 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: > I do so. > > Players may register by a public message; after that, they take turns (making > a proposal and gaining a random number of points) every 24-48 hours by > privately messaging me. Proposals are Suber-style, so each proposal must > create, amend, repeal, or transmute exactly one rule. Votes are also by > private messages to me. (There is no AGAINST vote; proposals pass as soon as > the required percentage of registered players vote for.) I'll publish the > hashes of any proposals that I receive, and announce when proposals pass, but > proposal text and the resulting ruleset are secret. When sending proposals, > it would be nice if you could include its SHA256 hash, so I can ensure that I > calculate it the same way you do. There is a mechanism for discovering rules; > see rule 213. Good luck and have fun! > > Gaelan > I become a player in Nomaoic. -- Jason Cobb
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to Begin Nomaoic
As do and am I
> On Sep 1, 2020, at 14:52, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
> I become a player in Nomaoic. Noting that I'm very open to cabals, feel
> free to email me.
>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 8:25 PM ATMunn via agora-business <
>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/1/2020 2:17 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
>>>
>>>
On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business <
>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
I intend, with 2 Consent, to initiate a free tournament with the
>> following regulations.
1. Gaelan can not win the Tournament, nor become a player within the
>> tournament. Gaelan is the Gamemaster and Judge of this Tournament.
2. This tournament shall be known as "Nomaoic."
3. This Tournament is governed by these regulations and by its rules,
>> the initial set of which are included in these regulations; the rules may
>> be amended from time to time as specified by the rules themselves. These
>> regulations take precedence over the tournament rules; it is IMPOSSIBLE for
>> the state of the tournament to change such that the rules claim precedence
>> over these regulations. The Gamemaster SHALL abide the tournament rules.
>> Tournament players SHOULD do so, but shall not be penalized for failure to
>> do so through means external to the tournament.
4. The Judge has sole authority to interpret the rules, and shall do so
>> in an equitable manner, with emphasis placed on the intent of the clauses
>> and the fair treatment of all parties.
5. While the tournament is ongoing, any Agoran player may, in
>> accordance with the rules of the tournament, become a player within the
>> tournament. Any person may cease to be a player within the tournament by
>> announcement, rules of the tournament notwithstanding; this does not
>> preclude the rules from causing people to cease to be players of the
>> tournament
6. The Gamemaster shall keep a record of any private information that e
>> receives or is required to track through the course of this Tournament.
>> Additionally, in any case where e believes the rules are ambiguous or eir
>> interpretation of the rules may be controversial, e shall record eir
>> interpretation and reasoning.
7. Upon the conclusion of the game of Nomaoic (as specified by the
>> rules), the Gamemaster SHALL, in a timely fashion, announce this fact and
>> publish all records e was required to keep under regulation 6. Provided
>> that the identity of the winners(s) was not, directly or indirectly,
>> affected by the Gamemaster acting with arbitrary or capricious disregard
>> for these regulations or the Tournament rules, e CAN and SHALL, by
>> announcement, cause any winners as specified by the rules of the tournament
>> to win the tournament.
8. In the event that the Gamemaster discovers e has made an error in
>> the adjudication of the tournament, e MAY resolve it in any reasonable
>> fashion (making changes to the gamestate as necessary), and SHOULD
>> (possibly privately) announce the error and resolution to any players
>> affected. The Gamemaster MAY, if necessary, reveal small amounts of private
>> information in this process.
9. The Gamemaster MAY and SHOULD inform players of decisions made while
>> adjudicating the tournament, especially when e records an interpretation of
>> the rules as required under section 5 or resolves an error under section 8.
>> In doing so, the Gamemaster MAY, keeping in mind the best interest
>> interests of the game, reveal private information.
10. The initial rules of Nomaoic are below: {
Initial Set of Rules
Immutable Rules
101. All players must always abide by all the rules then in effect, in
>> the form in which they are then in effect. The rules in the Initial Set are
>> in effect when the tournament begins. The Initial Set consists of Rules
>> 101-116 (immutable) and 201-215 (mutable).
102. Initially rules in the 100's are immutable and rules in the 200's
>> are mutable. Rules subsequently enacted or transmuted (that is, changed
>> from immutable to mutable or vice versa) may be immutable or mutable
>> regardless of their numbers, and rules in the Initial Set may be transmuted
>> regardless of their numbers.
103. A rule-change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal,
>> or amendment of a mutable rule; (2) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of
>> an amendment of a mutable rule; or (3) the transmutation of an immutable
>> rule into a mutable rule or vice versa.
104. All rule-changes proposed in the proper way shall be voted on.
>> They will be adopted if and only if they receive the required number of
>> votes.
105. Every player is an eligible voter.
106. All proposed rule-changes shall be sent to the Gamemaster before
>> they are voted on. If they are adopted, they shall guide play
Re: BUS: Intent to Begin Nomaoic
On 9/1/2020 2:17 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business
wrote:
I intend, with 2 Consent, to initiate a free tournament with the following
regulations.
1. Gaelan can not win the Tournament, nor become a player within the
tournament. Gaelan is the Gamemaster and Judge of this Tournament.
2. This tournament shall be known as "Nomaoic."
3. This Tournament is governed by these regulations and by its rules, the
initial set of which are included in these regulations; the rules may be
amended from time to time as specified by the rules themselves. These
regulations take precedence over the tournament rules; it is IMPOSSIBLE for the
state of the tournament to change such that the rules claim precedence over
these regulations. The Gamemaster SHALL abide the tournament rules. Tournament
players SHOULD do so, but shall not be penalized for failure to do so through
means external to the tournament.
4. The Judge has sole authority to interpret the rules, and shall do so in an
equitable manner, with emphasis placed on the intent of the clauses and the
fair treatment of all parties.
5. While the tournament is ongoing, any Agoran player may, in accordance with
the rules of the tournament, become a player within the tournament. Any person
may cease to be a player within the tournament by announcement, rules of the
tournament notwithstanding; this does not preclude the rules from causing
people to cease to be players of the tournament
6. The Gamemaster shall keep a record of any private information that e
receives or is required to track through the course of this Tournament.
Additionally, in any case where e believes the rules are ambiguous or eir
interpretation of the rules may be controversial, e shall record eir
interpretation and reasoning.
7. Upon the conclusion of the game of Nomaoic (as specified by the rules), the
Gamemaster SHALL, in a timely fashion, announce this fact and publish all
records e was required to keep under regulation 6. Provided that the identity
of the winners(s) was not, directly or indirectly, affected by the Gamemaster
acting with arbitrary or capricious disregard for these regulations or the
Tournament rules, e CAN and SHALL, by announcement, cause any winners as
specified by the rules of the tournament to win the tournament.
8. In the event that the Gamemaster discovers e has made an error in the
adjudication of the tournament, e MAY resolve it in any reasonable fashion
(making changes to the gamestate as necessary), and SHOULD (possibly privately)
announce the error and resolution to any players affected. The Gamemaster MAY,
if necessary, reveal small amounts of private information in this process.
9. The Gamemaster MAY and SHOULD inform players of decisions made while
adjudicating the tournament, especially when e records an interpretation of the
rules as required under section 5 or resolves an error under section 8. In
doing so, the Gamemaster MAY, keeping in mind the best interest interests of
the game, reveal private information.
10. The initial rules of Nomaoic are below: {
Initial Set of Rules
Immutable Rules
101. All players must always abide by all the rules then in effect, in the form
in which they are then in effect. The rules in the Initial Set are in effect
when the tournament begins. The Initial Set consists of Rules 101-116
(immutable) and 201-215 (mutable).
102. Initially rules in the 100's are immutable and rules in the 200's are
mutable. Rules subsequently enacted or transmuted (that is, changed from
immutable to mutable or vice versa) may be immutable or mutable regardless of
their numbers, and rules in the Initial Set may be transmuted regardless of
their numbers.
103. A rule-change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal, or
amendment of a mutable rule; (2) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of an
amendment of a mutable rule; or (3) the transmutation of an immutable rule into
a mutable rule or vice versa.
104. All rule-changes proposed in the proper way shall be voted on. They will
be adopted if and only if they receive the required number of votes.
105. Every player is an eligible voter.
106. All proposed rule-changes shall be sent to the Gamemaster before they are
voted on. If they are adopted, they shall guide play in the form in which they
were voted on.
107. No rule-change may take effect earlier than the moment of the completion
of the vote that adopted it, even if its wording explicitly states otherwise.
No rule-change may have retroactive application.
108. Each proposed rule-change shall be given a number for reference. The
numbers shall begin with 301, and each rule-change proposed in the proper way
shall receive the next successive integer, whether or not the proposal is
adopted.
If a rule is repealed and reenacted, it receives the number of the proposal to
reenact it. If a rule is amended or transmuted, it
Re: BUS: Intent to Begin Nomaoic
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business
> wrote:
>
> I intend, with 2 Consent, to initiate a free tournament with the following
> regulations.
>
> 1. Gaelan can not win the Tournament, nor become a player within the
> tournament. Gaelan is the Gamemaster and Judge of this Tournament.
>
> 2. This tournament shall be known as "Nomaoic."
>
> 3. This Tournament is governed by these regulations and by its rules, the
> initial set of which are included in these regulations; the rules may be
> amended from time to time as specified by the rules themselves. These
> regulations take precedence over the tournament rules; it is IMPOSSIBLE for
> the state of the tournament to change such that the rules claim precedence
> over these regulations. The Gamemaster SHALL abide the tournament rules.
> Tournament players SHOULD do so, but shall not be penalized for failure to do
> so through means external to the tournament.
>
> 4. The Judge has sole authority to interpret the rules, and shall do so in an
> equitable manner, with emphasis placed on the intent of the clauses and the
> fair treatment of all parties.
>
> 5. While the tournament is ongoing, any Agoran player may, in accordance with
> the rules of the tournament, become a player within the tournament. Any
> person may cease to be a player within the tournament by announcement, rules
> of the tournament notwithstanding; this does not preclude the rules from
> causing people to cease to be players of the tournament
>
> 6. The Gamemaster shall keep a record of any private information that e
> receives or is required to track through the course of this Tournament.
> Additionally, in any case where e believes the rules are ambiguous or eir
> interpretation of the rules may be controversial, e shall record eir
> interpretation and reasoning.
>
> 7. Upon the conclusion of the game of Nomaoic (as specified by the rules),
> the Gamemaster SHALL, in a timely fashion, announce this fact and publish all
> records e was required to keep under regulation 6. Provided that the identity
> of the winners(s) was not, directly or indirectly, affected by the Gamemaster
> acting with arbitrary or capricious disregard for these regulations or the
> Tournament rules, e CAN and SHALL, by announcement, cause any winners as
> specified by the rules of the tournament to win the tournament.
>
> 8. In the event that the Gamemaster discovers e has made an error in the
> adjudication of the tournament, e MAY resolve it in any reasonable fashion
> (making changes to the gamestate as necessary), and SHOULD (possibly
> privately) announce the error and resolution to any players affected. The
> Gamemaster MAY, if necessary, reveal small amounts of private information in
> this process.
>
> 9. The Gamemaster MAY and SHOULD inform players of decisions made while
> adjudicating the tournament, especially when e records an interpretation of
> the rules as required under section 5 or resolves an error under section 8.
> In doing so, the Gamemaster MAY, keeping in mind the best interest interests
> of the game, reveal private information.
>
> 10. The initial rules of Nomaoic are below: {
> Initial Set of Rules
> Immutable Rules
> 101. All players must always abide by all the rules then in effect, in the
> form in which they are then in effect. The rules in the Initial Set are in
> effect when the tournament begins. The Initial Set consists of Rules 101-116
> (immutable) and 201-215 (mutable).
>
> 102. Initially rules in the 100's are immutable and rules in the 200's are
> mutable. Rules subsequently enacted or transmuted (that is, changed from
> immutable to mutable or vice versa) may be immutable or mutable regardless of
> their numbers, and rules in the Initial Set may be transmuted regardless of
> their numbers.
>
> 103. A rule-change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal, or
> amendment of a mutable rule; (2) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of an
> amendment of a mutable rule; or (3) the transmutation of an immutable rule
> into a mutable rule or vice versa.
>
> 104. All rule-changes proposed in the proper way shall be voted on. They will
> be adopted if and only if they receive the required number of votes.
>
> 105. Every player is an eligible voter.
>
> 106. All proposed rule-changes shall be sent to the Gamemaster before they
> are voted on. If they are adopted, they shall guide play in the form in which
> they were voted on.
>
> 107. No rule-change may take effect earlier than the moment of the completion
> of the vote that adopted it, even if its wording explicitly states otherwise.
> No rule-change may have retroactive application.
>
> 108. Each proposed rule-change shall be given a number for reference. The
> numbers shall begin with 301, and each rule-change proposed in the proper way
> shall receive the next successive integer, whether or not the proposal is
> adopted.
>
> If
Re: BUS: [Dragon] Auctions
On 8/28/20 6:16 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I submit the following Amendment Proposal to the Dragon Corporation:
>
> {
>
> Amend the Dragon Corporation by adding a bylaw titled "Spoils" with the
> following text:
>
> {
>
> Whenever the Dragon Corporation possesses non-coin assets, the President
> CAN initiate an auction for a subset of those assets using an auction
> method specified in an auction regulation, provided:
>
> - there is no ongoing auction under this bylaw;
>
> - the currency of the auction is coins; and,
>
> - all auctioned assets are contained within a single lot.
>
>
> Unless otherwise specified, Dragon Corporation auctions function as
> closely as possible to auctions defined by the rules, except that they
> are controlled by this contract.
>
> Instead of what is specified by the auction regulation, auction bids are
> to be paid as a fee to the Dragon Corporation. After eir bid is paid,
> the bidder is authorized to once transfer the assets e won from the
> Dragon Corporation to emself.
>
> }
>
> }
>
I vote FOR this amendment proposal.
--
Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8488A-8489A and 8495-8497
I vote as follows, and act on behalf of sukil to do the same: On 2020-08-30 23:24, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: ID Author(s)AITitle --- 8488A*^ Falsifian, Jason, omd3.0 Empty the escalator v1 FOR 8489Ae^ Jason, Trigon1.0 Interesting economics FOR (please vote for this one, I want to give out cards) 8495p^ G. 1.0 Please stand by AGAINST (just in case) 8496l^ Jason, Aris 1.0 Timely reminders FOR 8497*^ nix 3.0 Withdrawal Quick-FixAGAINST (I get that this was an unintended consequence but I think submitting a proposal *should* be a commitment) -- Trigon I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory
On 2020-08-26 22:21, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: >> Resale Last ownedDue to flip >> Zombie Master valueby Agora to Agora >> -- -- --- --- --- >> twgG. 12020-06-11 20:16 2020-09-09 20:16 >> D. Margaux G. 12020-08-23 19:40 2020-11-21 19:40 > > I intend to transfer the talisman of twg to Agora with notice. > > (I'm happy for G. to do it, but announcing intent just in case, to make > sure I can satisfy my obligation under R2574.) Having given notice, I transfer the talisman of twg to Agora. (I think D. Margaux's attempt to unzombify emself failed. I'm required by the rules to flip one of these, and I only announced intent for twg, so there you go.) -- Falsifian
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8488A-8489A and 8495-8497
On 9/1/20 10:01 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I vote as follows: Oh, and I cause Baron von Vanderham to vote to ENDORSE me the referenda for proposals 8488A-8489A and 8495-8497. -- Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8488A-8489A and 8495-8497
I vote as follows: > 8488A*^ Falsifian, Jason, omd3.0 Empty the escalator v1 FOR > 8489Ae^ Jason, Trigon1.0 Interesting economics FOR > 8495p^ G. 1.0 Please stand by Umm... PRESENT > 8496l^ Jason, Aris 1.0 Timely reminders I don't think this was distributed, but FOR if it was. > 8497*^ nix 3.0 Withdrawal Quick-Fix FOR -- Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8488A-8489A and 8495-8497
On 8/31/20 1:24 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > // > ID: 8496 > Title: Timely reminders > Adoption index: 1.0 > Author: Jason > Co-authors: Aris > > > Amend Rule 2168 by replacing the text "Upon such an occurrence" with > the text "Within two days of such an occurrence" > > // This is my fault for not noticing this when the draft was published, but CoE: this is the wrong version and was withdrawn and resubmitted with "four days" instead of "two days". -- Jason Cobb
