BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8524-8525

2020-11-22 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
I vote as follows:

> 8524e^  nix   2.0   Agora's Stones Are Immune

FOR


> 8525c^  Aris  1.7   Expungement for R. Lee

PRESENT

-- 
Jason Cobb

Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason



BUS: Agoran Press credit (attn Falsifian, Treasuror)

2020-11-22 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

As allowed by the Agoran Press contract, I transfer 5 boatloads of coins
(19 coins) from the Agoran Press to myself, thus destroying my 1 credit.


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8524-8525

2020-11-22 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

I vote as follows:


8524e^  nix   2.0   Agora's Stones Are Immune

FOR

8525c^  Aris  1.7   Expungement for R. Lee

FOR


BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8524-8525

2020-11-22 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

I vote FOR each proposal distributed in the below quoted message.

On 11/22/2020 4:17 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:

PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW

I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector
is the Assessor, the quorum is 9, the voting method is AI-majority, and the
valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are
conditional votes).

ID  Author(s) AITitle
---
8524e^  nix   2.0   Agora's Stones Are Immune
8525c^  Aris  1.7   Expungement for R. Lee


The proposal pool is currently empty.

Legend: * : Democratic proposal.
 # : Ordinary proposal, unset chamber.
 c : Compliance ministry proposal (ordinary).
 e : Economy ministry proposal (ordinary).
 g : Legacy ministry proposal (ordinary).
 l : Legislation ministry proposal (ordinary).
 p : Participation ministry proposal (ordinary).
 ^ : Sponsored proposal.

The full text of the aforementioned proposal(s) is included below. Where
the information shown below differs from the information shown above,
the information shown above shall control.

//
ID: 8524
Title: Agora's Stones Are Immune
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: nix
Co-authors:


[Currently, you can steal from Agora with the soul stone, which seems a
bit goofy and also creates problems with auctions. Also, I cleaned up
the verbiage just a bit.]

Amend "Collecting Stones" by replacing

   A stone is immune if there has been no collection notice after it was
   most recently granted immunity (if ever), as defined by other rules.

with:

   A stone is immune if it has been granted immunity, as defined by other
   rules, since the last collection notice or if it is currently owned by
   Agora.

and by replacing:

   A collection notice includes, for every non-immune stone not belonging
   to Agora,

with:

   A collection notice includes, for every non-immune stone,

//
ID: 8525
Title: Expungement for R. Lee
Adoption index: 1.7
Author: Aris
Co-authors:


[As of right now, this would lower eir blots to 9, just enough to set eir
vote to 0 in the absence of other factors. I phrased it like this
both so e can begin paying it down and so that any blots e earns now
still count against em.]

Expunge 72 of R. Lee's blots.

//




--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)


BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal 8523

2020-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 1:58 PM Jason Cobb via agora-official
 wrote:
>
> RESOLUTION OF PROPOSALS 8523
> 
>
> IDTitle Result
> ---
> 8523  Emergency Economy Unbreaking  ADOPTED
>
> I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions to adopt the below proposals.
>
> The quorum for all below decisions was 7.
>
> The following sponsored adopted proposals have the highest popularity 
> (1.000): 8523 (by Aris).

For the adoption of this proposal, I earn a legislative card.

-Aris


BUS: [Promotor] Ministerial Referrals

2020-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
The Promotor hereby refers proposals as follows:

The proposal "Agora's Stones Are Immune" is referred to the Ministry of Economy.

The proposal "Expungement for R. Lee" is referred to the Ministry of Compliance.


BUS: Agoriculture (attn Farmest, Orchardoror)

2020-11-22 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

I plant potatoes.

I plant a tree, specifying Paperclips as the fruit type.
I pick fruit.


Re: BUS: [Finger Pointing] Re: Expedited export

2020-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
On 11/20/20 12:08 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 04:52:35AM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 05:42:00PM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
>>> I intend, with notice, to deregister Tyler.
>>> I intend, with notice, to deregister Zyborg.
>>> I intend, with notice, to deregister Fred.
>>> I intend, with notice, to deregister Shelvacu.
>>
>> Having given notice:
>>
>> I deregister Tyler.
>> I deregister Zyborg.
>> I deregister Fred.
>> I deregister Shelvacu.
>>
>> RIP
> 
> I Point my Finger at myself, Falsifian, for failing to deregister the
> above players in a timely fashion after my last Registrar weekly report,
> as required under the last paragraph of Rule 2574.

I find this finger-pointing to be shenanigans. I think that we need to
clarify the rules on this, but I decided to interpret it this way
because of how the alternative interpretation could play out in other
situations. Feel free to CFJ if you feel otherwise.

> 
> Arguments:
> 
> I'm not sure whether I'm guilty here. From Rule 2574:
> 
>> Any player CAN, with notice:
>>   - If a zombie has been a zombie for the past 90 days and not had
>> Agora for a master during any of that time, transfer the
>> talisman for em to Agora;
>>   - If a player possesses more than one talisman for persons other
>> than emself, specify and transfer one of those talismans to
>> Agora;
>>   - Deregister a zombie whose resale value is zero and whose
>> master is Agora.
>>
>> The Registrar SHALL track the date for each zombie on which Agora
>> was most recently eir master. The Registrar SHALL perform all
>> POSSIBLE actions in the preceding paragraph in a timely fashion
>> after first reporting their possibility via the facts in eir
>> weekly report.
> 
> Certainly I (unintentionally) failed to perform the actions within 7
> days of my last Registrar report: report published 2020-11-12; actions
> taken by announcement 2020-11-20. What's not clear to me is whether the
> actions were POSSIBLE.  R2152 defines "POSSIBLE" as "Attempts to perform
> the described action are successful". Immediately after publishing my
> report, no such attempt could be successful because I had not given
> notice, so arguably, the actions were not POSSIBLE when I published the
> report.
> 
> One counter-argument to this is that the SHALL became binding 4 days
> after I announced intent, because it became POSSIBLE then. It's still
> questionable whether I "reported [the actions'] possibility" in my
> weekly report since they weren't actually POSSIBLE when the report
> was published.
> 
> Another counter-argument is that announcing intent, waiting between 4
> and 14 days, then taking the action by announcement together constitutes
> an "attempt", so the actions were indeed POSSIBLE when I published the
> report.
> 


-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


Re: BUS: Intent to award Patent Title [attn Herald]

2020-11-22 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

I wrote:


I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award Publius Scribonius
Scholasticus (Referee since March, Tailor since April, Herald
since May) the Patent Title of Hard Labor.


I do so.
  * Support: lucidiot, Jason, Falsifian
  * Objections: none


BUS: Re: [Agoran Press] Weekly Assignment (attn Murphy)

2020-11-22 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-business

Falsifian wrote:


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 05:33:32AM +, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote:

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 08:50:33AM -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-business 
wrote:

Lucidiot wrote:


I join the Agoran Press contract.
I take the Weekly Assignment for the current week (2020-11-09..15).


I join the Agoran Press contract.
I take the Weekly Assignment for next week (2020-11-16..22).


Murphy, are you still interested in taking this week? A reminder that
you can take the Weekly Assignment from the contract now.


I take the Weekly Assignment.

I create the following Promise and transfer it to Murphy.
{
Cashing condition: It is still November 22, 2020 in the UTC time zone.

I transfer the Weekly Assignment to Murphy.
}


I cash this promise.


BUS: [Agoran Press] Weekly Assignment (attn Murphy)

2020-11-22 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 05:33:32AM +, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 08:50:33AM -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-business 
> wrote:
> > Lucidiot wrote:
> > 
> > > I join the Agoran Press contract.
> > > I take the Weekly Assignment for the current week (2020-11-09..15).
> > 
> > I join the Agoran Press contract.
> > I take the Weekly Assignment for next week (2020-11-16..22).
> 
> Murphy, are you still interested in taking this week? A reminder that
> you can take the Weekly Assignment from the contract now.

I take the Weekly Assignment.

I create the following Promise and transfer it to Murphy.
{
Cashing condition: It is still November 22, 2020 in the UTC time zone.

I transfer the Weekly Assignment to Murphy.
}

-- 
Falsifian


BUS: [Registrar] Second-last rites

2020-11-22 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
I intend, with notice, to transfer the talisman of D. Margaux to Agora.
I intend, with notice, to transfer the talisman of Baron von Vaderham
to Agora.
I intend, with notice, to transfer the talisman of Telnaior to Agora.
I intend, with notice, to transfer the talisman of sukil to Agora.

I intend, with notice, to deregister D. Margaux.
I intend, with notice, to deregister Baron von Vaderham.
I intend, with notice, to deregister Talnaior.
I intend, with notice, to deregister sukil.

-- 
Falsifian