BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Prime Minister
> On Feb 6, 2021, at 3:28 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-official > wrote: > > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Prime Minister > election. > > * The Vote Collector is the ADoP (me) > > * The valid options are Aris, ATMunn, nix, Trigon, and anyone else who >becomes a candidate before the election ends > > * The voting method is instant runoff > > * I believe quorum is 6, based on 9 players voting on Proposal 8537 I vote: [ Trigon, (great, deserves it) ATMunn, (great, had a previous term) Aris, (great, but suspended eir campaign) nix (ally of dictator) ] Gaelan
BUS: DIS: More cleaning
I intend, without objection, to amend Rule 2463 (Motion of No Confidence) by replacing "Motions of confidence" with "Motions of no confidence". Also, I petition H. Rulekeepor to rename the section "Victory & Karma".
BUS: More cleaning
I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 2634 (Buoyancy Control) by replacing this text: The Total Buoyancy is a singleton integer switch, tracked by the the Treasuror in eir monthly report. with this text: The Total Buoyancy is a singleton integer switch, tracked by the Treasuror in eir monthly report.
BUS: More cleaning
I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 2531 (Defendant's Rights) by replacing this text: (9) it attempts to levy a fine on a player who has already been fined for the conduct constituting the reason for the levy; or with this text: (9) it attempts to levy a fine on a player who has already been fined for the conduct constituting the reason for the levy. [There is no (10).]
BUS: Cleanliness
I intend, without objection, to amend Rule 693 (Agoran Decisions) by replacing "When the rules calls for" with "When the rules call for".
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Prime Minister
On 2/6/21 4:28 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Prime Minister election. * The Vote Collector is the ADoP (me) * The valid options are Aris, ATMunn, nix, Trigon, and anyone else who becomes a candidate before the election ends * The voting method is instant runoff * I believe quorum is 6, based on 9 players voting on Proposal 8537 I vote [Trigon, nix, Aris]. -- Trigon ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
Re: @Treasuror Re: BUS: [Contract] Obstructive Pooling
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 03:51:03PM +, nix via agora-business wrote: > On Friday, February 5, 2021 11:20:57 PM CST Falsifian via agora-business > wrote: > > I create and agree to (and therefore become a party to) the following > > contract, called "Obstructive Pooling". > > I join this contract. I transfer 1 victory card to the trustee (Falsifian) > for > the purpose of depositing it, creating 25 decipoints in my possession. > > -- > nix > Ministor, Herald, Webmastor Hooray! I think I'm one card away from a set of 4, giving us some protection against CuddleBeam. Maybe I'll get it from the Victory Auction. -- Falsifian
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Prime Minister
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 03:28:41PM -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Prime Minister > election. > > * The Vote Collector is the ADoP (me) > > * The valid options are Aris, ATMunn, nix, Trigon, and anyone else who > becomes a candidate before the election ends > > * The voting method is instant runoff > > * I believe quorum is 6, based on 9 players voting on Proposal 8537 I vote [Trigon, nix, Aris]. -- Falsifian
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Prime Minister
On 2/6/21 6:28 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Prime Minister > election. > >* The Vote Collector is the ADoP (me) > >* The valid options are Aris, ATMunn, nix, Trigon, and anyone else who > becomes a candidate before the election ends > >* The voting method is instant runoff > >* I believe quorum is 6, based on 9 players voting on Proposal 8537 I vote [Jason, Trigon, nix]. Remember folks, a vote for me is a vote that will have no effect! Vote Jason for PM today. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Voting for Prime Minister
On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 3:29 PM Edward Murphy via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the Prime Minister > election. > >* The Vote Collector is the ADoP (me) > >* The valid options are Aris, ATMunn, nix, Trigon, and anyone else who > becomes a candidate before the election ends > >* The voting method is instant runoff > >* I believe quorum is 6, based on 9 players voting on Proposal 853 I suspend my campaign. You can still vote for me, but I'd recommend voting for one of the other candidates. I vote [Trigon, Aris, nix]. Trigon does hard work as Treasuror and I'm not sure e's ever served before. If e has, it's been a while. Not voting for ATMunn because I don't think consecutive terms should be a thing for PM. -Aris
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8538-8540
I vote as follows: 8538*~ Aris, Jason 3.0 All Good Things Must Come to an End FOR 8539* Aris, G.3.0 The Great Rollback FOR 8540* nix, Aris, Jason3.0 Strengthening Extra Votes v2.1 FOR
BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3898 Assigned to Murphy
G. wrote: I state, under penalty of no faking, that I have not in any way discussed the events underlying this cfj with Murphy, nor have I seen evidence of eir opinions on the current situation. I state, under penalty of no faking, that G.'s claims above are true. The below CFJ is 3898. I assign it to Murphy. status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3898 === CFJ 3898 === The time at which an intent to do something without objection becomes resolvable is a deadline. == Caller:Jason Barred:G. Judge: Murphy == History: Called by Jason: 03 Feb 2021 02:25:25 Assigned to Murphy: [now] == Caller's Arguments: On 2/2/21 5:27 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: The following Emergency Regulation, The First Regulation of G.ravity, is enacted: A pausable intent is any announcement of intent for performing a dependent action either without N objections, with N Agoran consent, with notice, or with T notice. G. CAN, by announcement, cause this regulation to extend the prior deadline, provided for in Rule 2595(3), for performing a dependent action based on a specified pausable intent (i.e. change the time between intent announcement and the enabling of the performance of the specified dependent action), to 14 days. That time does not seem to fit the natural language meaning of the word "deadline". Definition from Google: "the latest time or date by which something should be completed." Definition from Merriam-Webster online: "a date or time before which something must be done" Definition from Dictionary.com: "the time by which something must be finished or submitted; the latest time for finishing something" or "a line or limit that must not be passed." In all of these definitions, something must become impossible - either an action or the fulfillment of an obligation. For an intent resolution, nothing becomes DISABLED or ILLEGAL when the intent becomes resolvable - instead something becomes ENABLED. A close analogy seems to be the start of a voting period - I would not say that the start is a deadline, only the end. A counterargument could be that the time when it becomes resolvable is the deadline for people to get objections in while they can be sure they can be heard. This is reasonable when communicating to people, but Rule 2614 specifically requires that the deadline be "provided for by any instrument other than this rule". No instrument directly requires that anything occur before an intent becomes resolvable, neither for POSSIBILITY or LEGALITY. Thus it does not fulfill the requirement that the deadline be provided for by the rules. The start of the resolution period also does not fulfill any of the criteria specifically listed in the rule - no action must be done before the resolution period for it to be "valid" - objections are just as valid after the intent is resolvable (when it will still have effect), or even after it is resolved (when it is still an objection, and will prevent repeated resolutions), nor is there generally any obligation for something to be done before an intent becomes resolvable. Caller's Evidence: Rule 2614/5 (Power=3.01) Eclipse Light [Excerpt] - Extend any deadline provided for by any instrument other than this rule, including a deadline for an obligation to be met, or deadline prior to which an action must be performed in order to be valid, such as the end of voting period. Such an extension CANNOT cause the total time period, such as the time from when an obligation was created to the deadline or the whole of a voting period, to be more than double its original length. -- Gratuitous Arguments by G.: On 2/2/2021 6:25 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: This is reasonable when communicating to people, but Rule 2614 specifically requires that the deadline be "provided for by any instrument other than this rule". No instrument directly requires that anything occur before an intent becomes resolvable, neither for POSSIBILITY or LEGALITY. Thus it does not fulfill the requirement that the deadline be provided for by the rules. The language is actually quite straightforward and in keeping with the common definition of deadline. Rule 2614 says "any deadline" and provides the example of "a deadline for an obligation to be met". While this is just an example in the rule, that fact is that a player is obliged to wait, as provided by
Re: BUS: [Emergency] Please remain calm (@ADoP)
G. wrote: It has come to my attention that, unfortunately, the Prime Minister has lost the confidence of the glorious Regulations of G.ravity. I cause Second Regulation of G.ravity to remove the current Prime Minister from Office. Unfortunately, I also fear that the anti-democrats calling themselves a democratic society, may attempt a move against the Regulations via deputization, so the office cannot remain empty. I cause Second Regulation of G.ravity to appoint myself to the office of Prime Minister. In the interest of confirming whether these changes were effective, I hereby petition Possibly H. Possibly Prime Minister G. to disclose to me any and all unhashed text underlying Second Regulation of G.ravity,
Re: BUS: Putting on glasses [attn. Treasuror]
Jason wrote: I gain one Legislative Card, pursuant to my focus in Legislation. I do the same.
BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Crime and Punishment
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:58:35 AM CST nix via agora-discussion wrote: > On Saturday, February 6, 2021 3:15:13 AM CST JTAC via agora-official wrote: > > SPECIAL NOTICE: > > It appears that Shelvacu, who became a fugitive on 11/20/20, should have > > had 1 blot destroyed at the beginning of January due to the following > > provision in rule 2555/9: "At the beginning of each quarter, half > > (rounded down) of each fugitive's blots are destroyed." I correct this > > in the present report. > > CoE: shelvacu has 2 blots. > > You can't correct this in this way. Officially tracked info in reports (for > this report, the number of blots each player has) ratify and become true if > nobody CoEs them within 7 days of publication, which means the previous > reports (on the 29th and on the 19th) saying e has 2 blots became true even > though it was a mistake. If we want to correct it, we'll need to ratify > without objection or propose a fix. > > -- > nix > Ministor, Herald, Webmastor TTttPF -- nix Ministor, Herald, Webmastor
@Treasuror Re: BUS: [Contract] Obstructive Pooling
On Friday, February 5, 2021 11:20:57 PM CST Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > I create and agree to (and therefore become a party to) the following > contract, called "Obstructive Pooling". I join this contract. I transfer 1 victory card to the trustee (Falsifian) for the purpose of depositing it, creating 25 decipoints in my possession. -- nix Ministor, Herald, Webmastor
Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer fingerdances for a good reason [Attn. Referee]
On 5/2/2021 3:00 am, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: > The crime is "Unjustified Gesticulation", not "Shenanigans", dohohoho! > > I point my finger at Cuddlebeam for committing the crime of Unjustified > Gesticulation, > in violation of Rule 2478, for initiating the finger-pointing about Rule > 869 later found to be shenanigans. > > > I point my finger at Cuddlebeam for committing the crime of Unjustified > Gesticulation, > in violation of Rule 2478, for initiating the finger-pointing about Rule > 2478 later found to be shenanigans. It is understood that the judgement of the pending CFJ would impact on whether my following actions are effective. Given that the deadline judging the CFJ is considerably latter than that for resolving these finger-pointings, to exercise the highest reasonable standard of care would require me to proceed by assuming that they succeeded. Given this assumption, the state of the evidence is indisputable with regard to whether Cuddlebeam committed both crimes. I issue a warning to Cuddlebeam for the Class 0 Crime of Unjustified Gesticulation. I impose the cold hand of justice on Cuddlebeam for the Class 1 Crime of Unjustified Gesticulation, levying a fine of 1 blot. -- JTAC Referee
