BUS: [Attn: ADoP, Notary, Registrar] Re: DIS: Plans to Deregister
Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts! I look forward to returning in the future, but for now, this is farewell. I resign each office that I currently hold. I leave any contract of which I am currently a member that I can leave. I deregister. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Attn. Promotor] Proposal: Specified Crime not Rule
I submit and pend the following proposal:
Title: Specified Crime not Rule
Authors: PSS, nix, Aris
Power: 1.7
Text: {
Amend Rule 2478, "Vigilante Justice" by replacing the first paragraph
with the following:
A player CAN by announcement Point eir Finger at a player (the
perp); the announcement is INEFFECTIVE if it does not explicitly
name the perp, cite a specific rule or named crime, and specify an
alleged violation of that rule or commission of that crime by that
person.
[ This will allow someone to use the name of a crime without specifying
which rule defines it. This also addresses some concerns raised by nix
regarding unnecessary or archaic provisions.]
}
--
----
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Gray Ribbon
I award a Gray Ribbon to Lucidiot. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: Proto: Specified Crime not Rule Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Referee Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport
On 12/13/20 1:04 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:19:39AM -0500, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 12/6/20 7:01 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/6/20 5:57 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
>>>> On 12/6/20 6:56 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
>>>>> I point a finger at me for Tardiness on the Webmastor report.
>>>>>
>>>>> I point a finger at G. for Tardiness on the Coopor report.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe doesn't work for lack of a rule specification:
>>>>
>>>>>A player CAN by announcement, but subject to the provisions of
>>>>>this rule, Point eir Finger at a person (the perp) who plays the
>>>>>game; the announcement has to explicitly name the perp and cite a
>>>>>specific rule and an alleged violation of that rule by that
>>>>>person.
>>>> --
>>>> Jason Cobb
>>>>
>>>> Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
>>>>
>>> Well that's obtuse. Why do we name the crimes if the names aren't
>>> sufficient identifiers?
>>>
>>> If I didn't already do so in my last message, I point a finger at me for
>>> Tardiness on the Webmastor report, citing rule 2143.
>>>
>>> If I didn't already do so in my last message, I point a finger at G. for
>>> Tardiness on the Coopor report, citing rule 2143.
>>>
>>
>> We made it that specific after someone had made very vague accusations.
>>
>> Title: Specified Crime not Rule
>> Authors: PSS, nix
>> Power: 1.7
>> Text: {
>> Amend Rule 2478, "Vigilante Justice" by replacing the first paragraph
>> with the following:
>> A player CAN by announcement, but subject to the provisions of
>> this rule, Point eir Finger at a person (the perp) who plays the
>> game; the announcement has to explicitly name the perp and cite a
>> specific rule and an alleged violation of that rule by that
>> person or a named crime alleged to have been committed by that
>> person.
>
> I had a bit of trouble parsing the part after the semicolon (maybe due
> to "and ... and ... or" without bracketing). Also your phrasing doesn't
> require the Pointer to point out how the perp committed the crime (in
> the case of a rule they have to include "an alleged violation"). How
> about
>
> ...the announcement has to explicitly name the perp, cite a
> specific rule or named crime, and specify an alleged violation of
> that rule or commission of that crime by that person.
>
I submit but do not pend the following proposal:
Title: Specified Crime not Rule
Authors: PSS, nix
Power: 1.7
Text: {
Amend Rule 2478, "Vigilante Justice" by replacing the first paragraph
with the following:
A player CAN by announcement, but subject to the provisions of
this rule, Point eir Finger at a person (the perp) who plays the
game; the announcement has to explicitly name the perp, cite a
specific rule or named crime, and specify an alleged violation of
that rule or commission of that crime by that person.
[ This will allow someone to use the name of a crime without specifying
which rule defines it. ]
}
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: @Referee Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport
On 12/6/20 7:01 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: > > If I didn't already do so in my last message, I point a finger at me for > Tardiness on the Webmastor report, citing rule 2143. I impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of 1 blot on nix. > > If I didn't already do so in my last message, I point a finger at G. for > Tardiness on the Coopor report, citing rule 2143. > I impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of 2 blots on G. Leniency is being granted to nix for having pointed the fingers. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Ministor] Monthly Report [attn. Treasuror]
On 12/6/20 2:34 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 12/6/20 2:19 PM, nix via agora-official wrote: >> Legislation (3): Aris, Jason, P.S.S. > > > I earn one Legislative card for my interest. > As do I. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: DIS: Name change
On 11/25/20 10:18 PM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > Okay, updated at > https://agoranomic.org/Registrar/monthly/fresh.txt > > Happy to do it the other way around too if you prefer. I don't know how > (or whether) people use the historical record of email addresses. This is a Notice of Honour: +1 Falsifian (going above the call of duty to welcome players as themselves) -1 Agora (no one has been unwelcoming lately, so I don't want to punish anyone) -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [Ministor] Focus Warning
On 11/26/20 10:05 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: > Don't forget that the deadline to change your focus is coming up. > > Currently, it looks like this will be next month's distribution: > > Economy - 2 players (Gaelan and Trigon) [50 / 2 = 25 boatloads of coins > each] > > Legacy - 3 players (nix, G., Cuddlebeam, and ATMunn) > > Compliance - 0 players > > Legislation - 4 players (Aris, Falsifian, Jason, P.S.S.) > > Participation - 1 player (Murphy) > > Unfocused - 4 players (R. Lee, Nathan, grok, omd) > > You can Plan to Flip at any time, and as many times as you'd like, until > midnight December 1st (UTC). > > If I have not already done so, I grant myself a Legislative Card. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [Finger Pointing] Re: Expedited export
On 11/20/20 12:08 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 04:52:35AM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 05:42:00PM +, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: >>> I intend, with notice, to deregister Tyler. >>> I intend, with notice, to deregister Zyborg. >>> I intend, with notice, to deregister Fred. >>> I intend, with notice, to deregister Shelvacu. >> >> Having given notice: >> >> I deregister Tyler. >> I deregister Zyborg. >> I deregister Fred. >> I deregister Shelvacu. >> >> RIP > > I Point my Finger at myself, Falsifian, for failing to deregister the > above players in a timely fashion after my last Registrar weekly report, > as required under the last paragraph of Rule 2574. I find this finger-pointing to be shenanigans. I think that we need to clarify the rules on this, but I decided to interpret it this way because of how the alternative interpretation could play out in other situations. Feel free to CFJ if you feel otherwise. > > Arguments: > > I'm not sure whether I'm guilty here. From Rule 2574: > >> Any player CAN, with notice: >> - If a zombie has been a zombie for the past 90 days and not had >> Agora for a master during any of that time, transfer the >> talisman for em to Agora; >> - If a player possesses more than one talisman for persons other >> than emself, specify and transfer one of those talismans to >> Agora; >> - Deregister a zombie whose resale value is zero and whose >> master is Agora. >> >> The Registrar SHALL track the date for each zombie on which Agora >> was most recently eir master. The Registrar SHALL perform all >> POSSIBLE actions in the preceding paragraph in a timely fashion >> after first reporting their possibility via the facts in eir >> weekly report. > > Certainly I (unintentionally) failed to perform the actions within 7 > days of my last Registrar report: report published 2020-11-12; actions > taken by announcement 2020-11-20. What's not clear to me is whether the > actions were POSSIBLE. R2152 defines "POSSIBLE" as "Attempts to perform > the described action are successful". Immediately after publishing my > report, no such attempt could be successful because I had not given > notice, so arguably, the actions were not POSSIBLE when I published the > report. > > One counter-argument to this is that the SHALL became binding 4 days > after I announced intent, because it became POSSIBLE then. It's still > questionable whether I "reported [the actions'] possibility" in my > weekly report since they weren't actually POSSIBLE when the report > was published. > > Another counter-argument is that announcing intent, waiting between 4 > and 14 days, then taking the action by announcement together constitutes > an "attempt", so the actions were indeed POSSIBLE when I published the > report. > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Notice of Honour] Wait! Wait! I'm still using it!
On 11/19/20 11:36 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > It was a very fun 27 minutes though > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 5:30 PM Lucidiot via agora-business < > agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 19/11/2020 17:03, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: >>> >>> Wait, wait! We can go full circle! >>> >>> This is a Notice of Honor >>> >>> +1 Falsifan (because I want to go the whole round around) >>> -1 Lucidiot (because this is a sacrifice I am willing to take) >>> >>> Now we're back to where we started. >>> >> >> Heh. >> >> This is a Notice of Honour: >> >> +1 Falsifian (for honouring me) >> -1 CuddleBeam (for dishonouring me) >> >> -- >> ~lucidiot >> >> This is a Notice of Honour: +1 Lucidiot (Agoran Press) -1 Cuddlebeam (Penalizing a new person) -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: (@treasuror) apology to Judges (attn Herald)
On 11/8/20 12:22 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > G. wrote: > >> Due to real life, I was delinquent in rewarding Judgement rewards to >> Judge >> Aris (3884) and myself (3885). Gaelan (3886) was late judging but I'll >> count em anyway. Murphy (3887) was not technically late I would under >> normal circumstances still have a couple hours to reward em. >> >> Unfortunately I can't do any of these, because changing the reward in the >> rules (from "5 coins" to "5 boatloads of coins") by precedent removes the >> ability to reward the old reward while not retroactively granting the >> ability to award the new one. >> >> I transfer 5 coins to Aris. >> I transfer 5 coins to Murphy. >> I transfer 5 coins to Gaelan. > > This is a Notice of Honour: > -1 karma Agora (collectively overlooking this) > +1 karma G. (paying for it out of pocket) This is a Notice of Honour +1 Murphy (actually using honour) -1 Agora (collectively overlooking this [honour]) -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: @treasuror Re: BUS: hi [attn. Registrar]
As do I. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 12:33, Edward Murphy via agora-business > wrote: > > ATMunn wrote: > >>> On 11/8/2020 9:48 AM, Lucidiot via agora-business wrote: >>> I register! >>> >>> I am elated to be able to celebrate my Agoran Birthday with all of you! >>> It has been such an amazing 0 years together and I can't wait to go blow >>> out no candles on my cake! >>> >> Welcome! >> I wish Lucidiot a happy birthday and grant em 3 boatloads of coins (11 >> coins, according to the Treasuror). > > As do I, on both counts.
Re: BUS: [Finger Pointing] Tardiness
On 11/7/20 11:54 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > I Point my Finger at myself (Falsifian) for failing to fulfill my duty > under R1885, which was to announce this month within the week of Chaos > that no zombie auction is necessary. > > (I did announce it, but the week of Discord had already begun.) > I impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of 1 blot for this crime. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8516-8521
Okay, I change my vote on 8519 to AGAINST. > On Nov 1, 2020, at 21:39, Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: > > On 11/1/20 9:35 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> I vote AGAINST 8519. > > > Sorry, this doesn't work because you already have a valid ballot on the > referendum (the one you originally cast). You need to withdraw that > ballot before casting a new one (saying you "change" it works). > > -- > Jason Cobb > > Assessor, Rulekeepor >
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8516-8521
I vote AGAINST 8519. > On Nov 1, 2020, at 21:12, Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: > > I cause Baron von Vanderham to vote to ENODRSE me on all below listed > referenda. > > I vote as follows: > >> 8516e^ nix 2.0 adJustments > > FOR > > >> 8517*^ Telnaior, Jason, Trigon 3.0 Phasing Out Zombies > > FOR > > >> 8518*^ Aris, Falsifian, nix 3.0 Asset Rounding > > FOR > > >> 8519c^ ATMunn, Jason 2.0 I definitely authored this > > AGAINST, unfortunately. > > >> 8520*^ P.S.S., Jason 3.0 (untitled) > > FOR > > >> 8521e^ Jason, G., [1]2.0 Stones > > FOR > > -- > Jason Cobb > > Assessor, Rulekeepor >
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Number Assignment for Proposal 8522
I vote FOR.
> On Nov 1, 2020, at 21:28, Aris Merchant via agora-official
> wrote:
>
> The proposal submitted and distributed in the message reproduced in
> part below is Proposal 8522.
>
>> I submit the following proposal:
>>
>> Title: Theftn't
>> Adoption index: 2.0
>> Author: ATMunn
>> Co-author: Jason
>> Chamber: Compliance
>>
>> -- START OF PROPOSAL TEXT --
>>
>> Amend Rule 2531 to read, in whole:
>> {
>>
>> Any attempt to levy a fine is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include value
>> of the fine in blots, the name of the person being fined (the perp), and
>> the specific reason for the fine.
>>
>> Any attempt to levy a fine pursuant to the imposition of the Cold Hand
>> of Justice is INEFFECTIVE if:
>>
>> (1) it attempts to levy a fine on a person when that person can't be
>> established by a preponderance of the evidence to have committed the
>> action or inaction for which the fine was levied;
>>
>> (2) it attempts to levy a fine for an action or inaction which, at the
>> time the inaction or action occurred, was not prohibited by the rules;
>>
>> (3) it attempts to levy a fine on a person for failure to take an
>> action that e, through no fault of eir own, COULD NOT have performed;
>>
>> (4) it attempts to levy a fine on a person for conduct that e, through
>> no fault of eir own, was obliged to undertake by a rule of equal or
>> greater power to the one e violated;
>>
>> (5) it attempts to levy a fine on a person taking an action or inaction
>> e could not have avoided when exercising the highest reasonably possible
>> standard of care;
>>
>> (6) it attempts to levy a fine with a value that is blatantly and
>> obviously unsuited to the conduct which constitutes the reason for its
>> levy or to the person on whom it is being levied;
>>
>> (7) it attempts to levy a fine based upon the investigation of of a
>> Finger that had been Pointed more than 14 days after the action
>> constituting the reason for the fine;
>>
>> (8) it attempts to levy a fine on a player for failing to take an
>> action within the time period set by the Rules and that time period had
>> expired more than 14 days prior to the Pointed Finger, if the fine is
>> imposed based on an investigation of such Finger;
>>
>> (9) it attempts to levy a fine on a player who has already been fined
>> for the conduct constituting the reason for the levy; or
>>
>> (10) it attempts to levy a fine on a zombie for an action that its
>> master performed on its behalf.
>>
>> }
>>
>> -- END OF PROPOSAL TEXT --
>>
>>
>> As Prime Minister, I hereby issue the Cabinet Order of Manifesto in
>> order to distribute the above proposal, initiating a referendum on it,
>> and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote
>> collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 9, the voting method is AI-
>> majority, and the valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a
>> valid vote, as are conditional votes).
>>
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scroll of Agora
On 11/1/20 10:03 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
>
>
>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
>> agora-official wrote:
>>
>>
>>ORDER OF THE HERO OF AGORA NOMIC
>>
>>GRAND HERO OF AGORA NOMIC
>> Peter Suber, Chuck Carroll, Douglas Hofstadter,
>> Michael Norrish
>>
>> HERO OF AGORA NOMIC
>> Murphy, G.
>
> CoE: omd recently became a Hero of Agora Nomic.
>
> Gaelan
>
Thanks! I missed that resolution apparently, but I've fixed it on my
copy. The below is a partial revision.
ORDER OF THE HERO OF AGORA NOMIC
GRAND HERO OF AGORA NOMIC
Peter Suber, Chuck Carroll, Douglas Hofstadter,
Michael Norrish
HERO OF AGORA NOMIC
Murphy, G., omd
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Gray Ribbon
I award a gray ribbon to grok as e is the only active player lacking one. And since I thought today was October 31, all of my reports are likely off by one day, I'm sorry. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Ministor] Ministor's Monthly Report
On 11/1/20 9:38 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 11/1/20 9:18 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: >> >>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 1:58 PM, nix via agora-official >>> wrote: >>> >>> Player Ministry Focuses >>> === >>> >>> Focus grants a monthly bonus: >>> >>> * Unfocused - nothing, just the default >>> * Compliance - grant yourself a Justice card >>> * Legislation - grant yourself a Legislative card >>> * Participation - grant yourself a Voting card >>> * Economy - grant yourself a split of the coin pot (exact amount listed >>> below in its own section) >>> * Legacy - be granted a card or victory point, randomly (winner listed >>> below in its own section) >>> >>> You can Plan To Flip your own focus by announcement - it will be flipped >>> at the start of the next month. >>> >>> >>> Compliance (1): Gaelan >>> >>> Economy (1): Trigon >>> >>> Legacy (4): ATMunn, Cuddlebeam, G., nix >>> >>> Legislation (4): Aris, Falsifian, Jason, P.S.S. >>> >>> Participation (1): Murphy >>> >>> Unfocused (8): Fred, Nathan, R. Lee, Shelvacu, Tyler, Zyborg, grok, omd >>> >> >> I grant myself a justice card. >> >> Gaelan >> > > I grant myself a Legislative card. > I grant myself a Legislative card. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8516-8521
I vote as follows: On 10/31/20 5:12 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, > and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector > is the Assessor, the quorum is 9, the voting method is AI-majority, and the > valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > conditional votes). > > ID Author(s) AITitle > --- > 8516e^ nix 2.0 adJustments FOR > 8517*^ Telnaior, Jason, Trigon 3.0 Phasing Out Zombies FOR > 8518*^ Aris, Falsifian, nix 3.0 Asset Rounding FOR > 8519c^ ATMunn, Jason 2.0 I definitely authored this FOR > 8520*^ P.S.S., Jason 3.0 (untitled) FOR. I don't think that a reasonable interpretation avoid Murphy's concern, but I also think it can be fixed by proposal later. > 8521e^ Jason, G., [1] 2.0 Stones FOR -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [Ministor] Intents to Flip Interest Switches
On 10/31/20 4:26 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: > With the adoption of adMinistration, Ministor takes over Interest > switches, and many of them have gotten some changes via the application > of the rule. Both before and after those changes the distribution wasn't > very even. So here's some intents to flip some switches. > > The three below are just direct fixes to problems. Ministor doesn't have > one, and PM and Speaker have duplicates of Participation and no Legacy. > > I intend to flip, without objection, the following ministry interest > switches to the following values: > > Ministor, to "Economy". > > Prime Minister, to "Compliance, Legacy, Legislation, Participation, Economy" > > Speaker, to "Compliance, Legacy, Legislation, Participation, Economy" > > The below are intended to be balancing. Currently, there's way too many > Participation and not many of the others. Also, felt like Promotor > should have 2 interests because of its complexity and to match Assessor. > > I intend to flip, without objection, the following ministry interest > switches to the following values: > > Herald, to "Legacy". > > Tailor, to "Legacy". I object. While Tailor does have ties to Legacy and I would be fine with adding it, I think it is more clearly within Participation. > > Notary, to "Compliance, Economy". > > Promotor, to "Participation, Legislation" > > Coopor, to "Economy" > > Rulekeepor, "Legislation, Legacy" > -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Attn. Treasuror, Promotor] Re: DIS: Re: BAK: [Proto] Glitter for Friends
Sure. I submit the proposal quoted below and destroy a pendant to cause it to
become pending.
> On Oct 28, 2020, at 22:49, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
> On 10/25/20 11:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
>> AI: 3.0
>> Co-author: Jason
>> Text: {
>>
>> Amend the final item in Rule 2438, "Ribbons" to read as follows: {
>>- Otherwise, if e has not been awarded that type of Ribbon or
>> the corresponding type of Glitter since e last earned or came
>> to qualify for that type of Ribbon, and has not been so
>> awarded five or more times within the past 24 hours, any
>> player CAN, by announcement, award em that type of Glitter.
>> }
>> }
>
>
> This looks good to me. Could you please submit this?
>
> --
> Jason Cobb
>
> Assessor, Rulekeepor
>
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Farmers] Potato report
CoE: I have two potatoes. > On Oct 28, 2020, at 15:26, Cuddle Beam via agora-business > wrote: > > Hopefully more correct correcter Farming Report > > PSS: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > OwnerPotato > --- > Cuddlebeam 0 > > Gaelan 5 > > Aris0 > > Falsifan0 > > PSS 0 > > Trigon 0 > > ATMunn 1 > > Nix 1 > > > History of Potato (not self-ratifying): > > 10,000 BC: Potatoes were first planted in South America > > 1840: Blight decimate potato crops across Europe > > Oct 21 2020: Cuddlebeam +1 Potato > > Nov 32 2020: Gaelan + 10 Potato > > Last week: Aris, PSS + 1 Potato > > Also last week: Falsifan spawns Spudders > > Oct 26 2020: CB + 1 Potato > > Sept 21 2020: Do you remember, the 21st night of Septembah? > > Today: Things happened > > 28 Oct 2020: Trigon trades Russet > > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 8:24 PM Cuddle Beam wrote: >> >> Hopefully more correct Farming Report >> >> PSS: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> >> OwnerPotato >> --- >> Cuddlebeam 0 >> >> Gaelan 5 >> >> Aris0 >> >> Falsifan0 >> >> PSS 0 >> >> Trigon 0 >> >> ATMunn 1 >> >> >> History of Potato (not self-ratifying): >> >> 10,000 BC: Potatoes were first planted in South America >> >> 1840: Blight decimate potato crops across Europe >> >> Oct 21 2020: Cuddlebeam +1 Potato >> >> Nov 32 2020: Gaelan + 10 Potato >> >> Last week: Aris, PSS + 1 Potato >> >> Also last week: Falsifan spawns Spudders >> >> Oct 26 2020: CB + 1 Potato >> >> Sept 21 2020: Do you remember, the 21st night of Septembah? >> >> Today: Things happened >> >> 28 Oct 2020: Trigon trades Russet >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:35 PM nix via agora-business < >> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 10/28/20 3:17 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-official wrote: >>>> Farming Report >>>> >>>> PSS: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >>>> >>>> >>>> OwnerPotato >>>> --- >>>> Cuddlebeam 0 >>>> >>>> Gaelan 5 >>>> >>>> Aris1 >>>> >>>> Falsifan0 >>>> >>>> PSS 1 >>>> >>>> Trigon 0 >>>> >>>> ATMunn 1 >>> CoE: I have 1 and Aris has 0 due to a trade yesterday. >>> >>> -- >>> nix >>> Webmastor >>> >>> >>>
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Ministor] Preview of Report & Notices
I plan to flip my focus to Legislation. > On Oct 28, 2020, at 15:52, Reuben Staley via agora-business > wrote: > > On 10/28/20 1:32 PM, nix via agora-official wrote: >> * Unfocused - nothing, just the default >> * Compliance - grant yourself a Justice card >> * Legislation - grant yourself a Legislative card >> * Participation - grant yourself a Voting card >> * Economy - grant yourself a split of the coin pot (exact amount listed >>below in its own section) >> * Legacy - be granted a card or victory point, randomly (winner listed >>below in its own section) >> You can Plan To Flip your own focus by announcement - it will be flipped >> at the start of the next month. > > I plan to flip my focus to economy. > > -- > Trigon > > ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST > > I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. > I LOVE SPAGHETTI > transfer Jason one coin > nch was here > I hereby > don't... trust... the dragon... > don't... trust... the dragon... > Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
BUS: Re: OFF: [Farmers] Potato report
CoE: this week I farmed a potato. Also, do we feel this should go to BUS or OFF? > On Oct 28, 2020, at 04:17, Cuddle Beam via agora-official > wrote: > > Farming Report > > PSS: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > > OwnerPotato > --- > Cuddlebeam 0 > > Gaelan 5 > > Aris1 > > Falsifan0 > > PSS 1 > > Trigon 0 > > ATMunn 1 > > > History of Potato (not self-ratifying): > > 10,000 BC: Potatoes were first planted in South America > > 1840: Blight decimate potato crops across Europe > > Oct 21 2020: Cuddlebeam +1 Potato > > Nov 32 2020: Gaelan + 10 Potato > > Last week: Aris, PSS + 1 Potato > > Also last week: Falsifan spawns Spudders > > Oct 26 2020: CB + 1 Potato > > Sept 21 2020: Do you remember, the 21st night of Septembah? > > Today: Things happened > > 28 Oct 2020: Trigon trades Russet
Re: BUS: [Attn. Notary] Food Industry Association of Agora
On 10/27/20 6:46 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > I create and become a party to the following contract. > > -Aris > --- > This contract shall be known as the Food Industry Association of Agora. > > It is the purpose of this contract to maintain a record of the authorized > producers of each type of food. A member of a contract is known as > the Director. This is by default the member who first joined the contract > earliest, but e can be removed and a new director selected by announcement, > provided two thirds of the members consent. > > The Product List contains the authorized backing contract for each > type of foodstuff. To qualify: > - the creator of the contract should not have created any other foodstuff > contract within the same Agoran week > - the contract should guarantee that the quantity of the foodstuff > be reasonably limited "position: relative; left: 50%; transform: > translateX(-50%); display: inline; > > The Director can modify the Product List by announcement; any member > can modify it by announcement provided a majority of members consent. > The Product List cannot have any game effect beyond listing > the products each contract is authorized to back; any change to the list > which could plausibly be interpreted to give it another effect is canceled > and does not occur. > > Players may join or leave this contract by announcement; parties to this > contract are known as members. This contract may be amended with > 2 Agoran consent, where only members are eligible to support or object. When > an amendment occurs (other than to change the Product List, within the bounds > set for changes of the Product List), every member who did not consent > is ejected from the contract. > > The Product List: > - “Humble Agoran Farming” is authorized to back potatoes. > - "The Orchard" is authorized to back culinary fruits. > I join. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: friendly neighborhood notary creates competition in the food industry
On 10/26/20 5:49 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> I create, consent to, and become a party to the following contract:
>
> {
>
> Players to this contract are known as Orchardors. Any player can become
> an Orchardor by announcement, and any Orchardor may cease to be one by
> announcement.
>
> Trees are a type of asset. Any Orchardor can PLANT A TREE by
> announcement, specifying a fruit type, as long as e has not already done
> so in the last 7 days. When an Orchardor PLANTS A TREE, e is granted one
> new Tree of the specified fruit type.
>
> Fruits are a type of asset. Each Fruit has a type; Fruits with the same
> type are fungible. A Fruit may also be referred to by its type. Any
> Orchardor can PICK FRUIT by announcement, if e has not already done so
> in the last 7 days. When an Orchardor does so, for every Tree e owns, e
> earns one Fruit of the same type as that tree.
>
> The player who has been an Orchardor for the longest is known as the
> Orchardoror. The Orchardoror is the recordkeepor of Trees and Fruits.
>
> }
>
> I PLANT A TREE, specifying Apples as the fruit type.
I become an Orchardor, PLANT A TREE, specifying Pears as the fruit type,
and PICK FRUIT.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: BAK: humble agoran farmer, farms [Attn. Notary]
As do I. > On Oct 26, 2020, at 16:21, Cuddle Beam via agora-business > wrote: > > Its Monday so, I PLANT POTATOES > >> On Sunday, October 25, 2020, Aris Merchant < >> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 1:34 PM Cuddle Beam wrote: >>> >>> I make the following contract called “Humble Agoran Farming” with me as >> its sole member: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Members to this contract are Farmers. Any Player can become a Farmer by >> announcement, or cease to be one by announcement. >>> >>> >>> Farmers can, up to once per Agoran week, PLANT POTATOES. Doing so causes >> them to gain 1 Potato. Potatoes are an asset. >>> >>> >>> There is a Farmer who is the Farmest. The Farmest is the recordkeeper of >> Potatoes. Cuddlebeam is the Farmest. >>> >>> >>> >> >> I become a Farmer. I PLANT POTATOES. >> >> -Aris >> ___ >> Agora mailing list >> ag...@listserver.tue.nl >> https://listserver.tue.nl/mailman/listinfo/agora >>
BUS: Covering My Bases
If I have not already done so, I award the Patent Title of Champion to G., nix, and Jason. According to my records, I had done this, but I couldn't find it. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Cuddlebeam Degree Intent
On 10/11/20 1:29 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > Having not received any further feedback, I intend with 2 Agoran Consent > to award Cuddlebeam the degree, Associate of Nomic Artistry, for the > images available at: https://imgur.com/a/VDAQaae > I do so with much support and no objections. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Recognizing our Roboticist General
I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award Jason the patent title of Roboticist General in recognition of eir technical services to Agora. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Cuddlebeam Degree Intent
Having not received any further feedback, I intend with 2 Agoran Consent to award Cuddlebeam the degree, Associate of Nomic Artistry, for the images available at: https://imgur.com/a/VDAQaae -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Petition for Patent Title for Jason [attn. Herald]
On 10/8/20 9:33 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > Jason has provided valuable tech support to Agora for a long time. E > has hosted the MUD, as well as designing and hosting AgoraBot, which, > among its many wonderful features, links the Agora Nomic Chat Server > and the #nomic IRC discussion forum. > > In recognition of eir proven willingness and ability to provide > technical services to Agora, I petition the H. Herald to award Jason a > patent title. A few suggestions would be something like "Tech Lord", > "Bot Master", or "Roboticist General". > > -Aris > This is an official response to this petition. What about Distributor Honorary? If people don't like that, I'm happy to go with Roboticist General, but I think that Distributor Honorary would tie it into a tradition of technical service. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [Finger Pointing] CFJ 3884 Assigned to Aris
On 10/10/20 3:26 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 12:55:39AM -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-business > wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 11:24 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-official >> wrote: >>> >>> The below CFJ is 3884. I assign it to Aris. >>> >>> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3884 >>> >>> === CFJ 3884 === >>> >>> The Lunar Laser Ranging experiment is a forum. >>> >>> == >> >> I file a motion to extend this CFJ. A draft verdict, which I do not >> assign, follows. > > I Point my Finger at Aris for failing to judge CFJ 3884 within the > extended deadline. > > Purely in the spirit of trying to get a Justice Card; no rebuke > intended. > I find this finger-pointing to be shenanigans. I think the most logical and common interpretation of "extend" is that it extends it from the prior point, but I'm not particularly attached to that if you want to CFJ. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: @Referee, @Notary Finger-Pointing and Pledge
On 10/11/20 11:35 AM, nix via agora-business wrote: > I point my finger at Trigon for Tardiness on the Treasuror's report. I > pledge to transfer some coins (5 or more, depending on my balance) > within the next 14 days to anyone who publishes a Treasuror's report > within the next 7 days. > I find that Trigon has committed said offense. As a result, I impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying a forgivable fine of two blots, specifying the following five words, courtesy of Kevan's random noun generator: 1. amplifier 2. bagel 3. dartboard 4. strawberry 5. magnet -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Attn. Treasuror, Distributor] Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Glitteral
On 10/5/20 11:51 AM, Falsifian via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Oct 04, 2020 at 06:33:56AM -0400, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-official wrote: >> >> Glitteral: Tailor's Weekly Report (September 28 - October 04) >> > > Don't forget the glitter I claimed yesterday; subject: "CFJ 3883 judged > FALSE". > > (You're not officially late, but I'm inferring from your report title > that you intended to capture the whole week.) > I didn't receive that email, so there's something going on. Either way, I found it on the archive, so I award 12 coins for Falsifian's Blue Glitter from CFJ 3883. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Matters of Honor
On 10/4/20 5:56 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 10/4/20 6:35 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official > wrote: > > > CoE: not all values of the Karma switch have their default values. > I respond to this CoE by referencing Jason's most recently called CFJ. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] The Ribbon Bar
On 10/1/20 10:16 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 9/30/20 8:59 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official > wrote: >> Jason ROGE B UV P AT > > > CoE: At the time of this report, I had a cyan ribbon. > Acccepted. The Ribbon Bar (Tailor's Monthly Report Revised) Date of this report: 2020-09-30 Date of last report: 2020-08-31 (all times UTC) FESTIVITY(self-ratifies) No Festival is ongoing; that is, Agora's Festivity is 0. RIBBON OWNERSHIP (self-ratifies) --- ACTIVE PLAYERS ROGECBMUVIPLWKAT --- Aris ROG CBMUVIPL KAT ATMunn OGE BMUV P WKAT CuddleBeam C M V P W A Falsifian ROGECBMUV PL KAT Fred Gaelan CBMUV A grokO BMUV P G. OG CBMUV PL KAT Jason ROGECB UV P AT Murphy R CBMUVKAT Nathan nicROGECBMUV PLWKAT omdC UVKA P.S.S. ROGECBMUV L KAT R. Lee O ECBMUV LWKA shelvacu Trigon ROGECBMUV P KAT Tyler Zyborg --- ZOMBIESROGECBMUVIPLWKAT --- Baron von Vaderham A D. Margaux ROG CBMUVIP WKAT sukil Telnaior M VKA twg O EC U IP WKAT --- EX-PLAYERS ROGECBMUVIPLWKAT --- ais523 ROG CBMUV PLWKAT Alexis ROGECBMUVIP WKAT aranea ROG CBM V PLW A babelian U Bayushi MU Bede M W Bernie ROM Bögtil A ChuckM Corona M VK Ienpw III UV K W Kenyon A o ROG BMUV WKAT ØrjanM V A pikhq pokes K Quazie O C MUVKA Rance C Roujo V SprocklemMUV W A stadjerW Tcbapo Tekneek M TenhigitsuneO UV A Tiger BM tmanthe2ndUV Veggiekeks C UV Walker M Warrigal C M YallyM Zachary Watterson U --- ROGECBMUVIPLWKAT --- GLITTER (does not self-ratify) Currently, Glitter rewards are as follows: Red 17 coins Orange 13 coins Green15 coins Emerald 17 coins Cyan 11 coins Blue 12 coins Magenta 11 coins Ultraviolet 10 coins Violet9 coins Indigo 22 coins Platinum 14 coins Lime 19 coins White19 coins (not earnable) blacK12 coins (not earnable except via proposal/scam) grAy 8 coins (not earnable) Transparent 14 coins RULES SUMMARY (does not self-ratify) The rules for Ribbons are set out in detail in Rule 2438, but to summarise, you can be awarded each different colour of Ribbon for different achievements within Agora, usually within 7 days after the chievement. If you come to qualify for a Ribbon that you already have, you can instead award yourself Glitter, which provides you a small coin bonus based on the Ribbon's rarity. When you have collected all 16 Ribbons, you can use them to win the game by Renaissance. After winning by Renaissance, you can't collect any more Ribbons (or Glitter) for 7 days. Approximate summary of how to collect each type of Ribbon: Red Successfully propose a rule change at Power 3 or higher Orange Your proposal is unanimously adopted GreenHold an elected office for 30 days, without Tardiness Emerald Win an election Cyan Deputise for an officer Blue Judge a CFJ within the time limit Magenta Claim on Agora's Birthday Ultraviolet Become Champion not by Renaissance (usually by winning the game) Violet Receive a Patent Title (other than Champion or a degree) Indigo Receive a degree Platinum Be the Speaker of Agora Lime Co-author three adopted proposals within 7 days White
BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Prime Minister Election
On 9/27/20 12:47 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-official wrote: > I initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the election for > Prime Minister. > > * The Vote Collector is the ADoP (me). > > * The valid options are the candidates (ATMunn, Gaelan, Murphy, nix, > and anyone else who announces eir candidacy during voting). > > * The voting method is instant runoff. > > * Quorum is 5 (based on 7 players voting on Proposal 8503). I vote for [ATMunn, Murphy, Gaelan, nix]. Just general feelings around activity and experience, so don't read into it. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: (@Referee) Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3884 Assigned to Shelvacu
On 9/27/20 12:19 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > > On 9/13/2020 12:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> The below CFJ is 3884. I assign it to Shelvacu. >> >> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3884 > > I recuse Shelvacu from CFJ 3884. > > I point a finger at Shelvacu for violating R591 (paragraph 1) by failing > to judge CFJ 3884 in a timely fashion. > > -G. > I impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying a forgivable fine of 2 blots. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: i didn't miss my agoran birthday
On 9/24/20 3:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > On 9/24/2020 3:37 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote: >> Thank you to ATMunn for reminding me to check the birthdays list. It >> is my Agoran Birthday for the next few hours. >> >> -- >> Trigon >> >> I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. >> I LOVE SPAGHETTI >> transfer Jason one coin >> nch was here >> I hereby >> don't... trust... the dragon... >> don't... trust... the dragon... >> Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this > > Happy birthday, Trigon! > I grant Trigon 3 coins. > > [btw, you sent this to a-o instead of a-b] > As do I. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Recusal: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3883 Assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On 9/18/20 12:39 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > I recuse R. Lee from CFJ 3883 (judgement overdue by 4+ days). > > The below CFJ is 3883. I assign it to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. > > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3883 > > === CFJ 3883 === > > Jason is REQUIRED to resolve the referendum on proposal 8493 > within a timely fashion. > > == > > Caller:Gaelan > Barred: G. > > Judge: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > == > > History: > > Called by Gaelan: 04 Sep 2020 19:37:44 > Assigned to R. Lee: 06 Sep 2020 14:50:59 > R. Lee Recused: [now] > Assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: [now] > > == > > Caller's Arguments: > > 208/14 says "The vote collector for an unresolved Agoran decision CAN > resolve it by announcement, indicating the outcome. If it was required to > be initiated, then e SHALL resolve it in a timely fashion after the end of > the voting period." > > This decision was not required to be initiated; the PM used the Manifesto > cabinet order, which e had no obligation to do. > > == > I thought I could make time for this, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards, so I am recusing myself from CFJ 3883 and request to be removed from the interested judges list. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [@Referee] Gesticulation
On 9/13/20 12:17 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > On 2020-09-11 20:13, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: >> I point the finger at myself for failing to publish the Notary's weekly >> report last week. >> >> I point the finger at G. for Oathbreaking. The below is a pledge which e >> made and let expire without taking the action e pledged to take: > > I Point my Finger at myself for failing to publish a Registrar monthly > report for the month of August 2020. > I impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of 2 blots. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [@Referee] Gesticulation
On 9/11/20 4:13 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > I point the finger at myself for failing to publish the Notary's weekly > report last week. I levy the Cold Hand of Justice by imposing an unforgivable fine of 1 blot. > > I point the finger at G. for Oathbreaking. The below is a pledge which e > made and let expire without taking the action e pledged to take: > > > "Mysterious hash" created by G. > Time of creation: 13 Jul 13:44 2020 > Time window: 60 days > Time of expiry: 11 Sep 13:44 2020 > Text: > > I pledge to make a public statement (under penalty of no faking) that has > the following SHA-256 hash, in a timely fashion after Diplonomic ends, if > the identity of the writer has not been revealed in the mean time: > > 2b6e3546b748a65531ceae83d69b41c59b4b809dbb4ee9fce4ccfdf3b7f69345 > > While there is no evidence to explicitly suggest that e has fulfilled this pledge, eir behavior is not consistent with that of someone who has since e has not stated that he has. As a result I levy the Cold Hand of Justice by imposing a forgivable fine of 2 blots. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: BAK: Intense In Tents
> On Sep 10, 2020, at 11:53, nix wrote: > > Without objection, by apathy, I intend to win. > > -- > nix > Prime Minister, Webmastor > >
BUS: Re: OFF: [Splat Market] Order Book
On 9/6/20 11:27 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-official wrote: > The following orders (as defined by the Splat Market contract) exist: > > Victory Cards: > 1x sell @ 200 coins (Gaelan) > > Justice Cards: > 3x buy @ 30 coins (Gaelan) > > Legislative Cards: > 3x buy @ 30 coins (Gaelan) > > Blot-B-Gones: > 4x buy @ 15 coins (Gaelan) > > Dragon QuickExchange Legislative Credits: > 12x sell @ 1 coin (Gaelan) > > Gaelan > As Referee, I grant one justice card to Gaelan, if doing so would allow me to perform the following two actions successfully. I act on Gaelan's behalf to transfer 30 coins to me. I destroy Gaelan's buy order for a justice card at 30 coins. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: CFJ 3879 judged FALSE
On 8/30/20 2:41 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > The below CFJ is 3879. I assign it to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus. > > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3879 > > === CFJ 3879 === > > After the first instant of the existence of the Supertask > Experiment Redux contract, Nathan is the owner of the first Dock > asset created by the Supertask Experiment Redux contract. > > == > > Caller:Nathan > > Judge: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > == I judge CFJ 3879 to be trivially FALSE because the contract only provides a means for the transfer of the Dock asset between the contract and Nathan, therefore it would be created in Nathan's possession and instantaneously transferred to the contract. The malformed clause is specifically: > 2. If a dock asset is owned by this contract. The Dock asset is > transferred from Nathan to this contract. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: (@Referee PETITION) Re: BUS: CFJ about scam
On 9/4/20 3:40 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>
> While this wasn't filed with the referee, I petition the Referee to
> recommend a judge for this case, whom I will assign if POSSIBLE and LEGAL.
>
> I suggest further CFJs on this matter also be filed with the referee.
>
> -G.
>
> On 9/4/2020 12:37 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
>> I CFJ, barring G.: {Jason is REQUIRED to resolve the referendum on proposal
>> 8493 within a timely fashion.}
>>
>> Arguments:
>>
>> 208/14 says "The vote collector for an unresolved Agoran decision CAN
>> resolve it by announcement, indicating the outcome. If it was required to be
>> initiated, then e SHALL resolve it in a timely fashion after the end of the
>> voting period."
>>
>> This decision was not required to be initiated; the PM used the Manifesto
>> cabinet order, which e had no obligation to do.
>>
>> Gaelan
>>
I respond to this CFJ. I believe that R. Lee would be an appropriate
judge, according to the most recent Court Gazette.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Anti-timing-scam contract
As do I
> On Sep 4, 2020, at 15:53, Nathan S via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
> On 9/4/2020 12:03 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
>>
On Sep 4, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business
wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree to the following contact:
>>>
>>> {Any player may become a party to this contract. Any party may act on
>>> behalf of any other party to vote FOR the proposals "nope" and
>>> "nopenopenope" (the ones by Gaelan, created before this contract).}
>>>
>>> The intention is that we all have a shot at putting our votes back in the
>>> event of a timing scam.
>>>
>>> Gaelan
>> I amend the contract to the following:
>>
>> {Any player may become a party to this contract. Any party may act on behalf
>> of any other party to vote FOR the proposals "nope" and "nopenopenope" (the
>> ones by Gaelan, created before this contract). This contract ceases to exist
>> (or, if it cannot do so, ceases to have any effect) after the referendum for
>> those proposals is resolved.}
>>
>> Gaelan
>
> I become a party to this contract.
>
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to Begin Nomaoic
As do and am I
> On Sep 1, 2020, at 14:52, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>
> I become a player in Nomaoic. Noting that I'm very open to cabals, feel
> free to email me.
>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 8:25 PM ATMunn via agora-business <
>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/1/2020 2:17 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
>>>
>>>
On Aug 28, 2020, at 6:22 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business <
>> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote:
I intend, with 2 Consent, to initiate a free tournament with the
>> following regulations.
1. Gaelan can not win the Tournament, nor become a player within the
>> tournament. Gaelan is the Gamemaster and Judge of this Tournament.
2. This tournament shall be known as "Nomaoic."
3. This Tournament is governed by these regulations and by its rules,
>> the initial set of which are included in these regulations; the rules may
>> be amended from time to time as specified by the rules themselves. These
>> regulations take precedence over the tournament rules; it is IMPOSSIBLE for
>> the state of the tournament to change such that the rules claim precedence
>> over these regulations. The Gamemaster SHALL abide the tournament rules.
>> Tournament players SHOULD do so, but shall not be penalized for failure to
>> do so through means external to the tournament.
4. The Judge has sole authority to interpret the rules, and shall do so
>> in an equitable manner, with emphasis placed on the intent of the clauses
>> and the fair treatment of all parties.
5. While the tournament is ongoing, any Agoran player may, in
>> accordance with the rules of the tournament, become a player within the
>> tournament. Any person may cease to be a player within the tournament by
>> announcement, rules of the tournament notwithstanding; this does not
>> preclude the rules from causing people to cease to be players of the
>> tournament
6. The Gamemaster shall keep a record of any private information that e
>> receives or is required to track through the course of this Tournament.
>> Additionally, in any case where e believes the rules are ambiguous or eir
>> interpretation of the rules may be controversial, e shall record eir
>> interpretation and reasoning.
7. Upon the conclusion of the game of Nomaoic (as specified by the
>> rules), the Gamemaster SHALL, in a timely fashion, announce this fact and
>> publish all records e was required to keep under regulation 6. Provided
>> that the identity of the winners(s) was not, directly or indirectly,
>> affected by the Gamemaster acting with arbitrary or capricious disregard
>> for these regulations or the Tournament rules, e CAN and SHALL, by
>> announcement, cause any winners as specified by the rules of the tournament
>> to win the tournament.
8. In the event that the Gamemaster discovers e has made an error in
>> the adjudication of the tournament, e MAY resolve it in any reasonable
>> fashion (making changes to the gamestate as necessary), and SHOULD
>> (possibly privately) announce the error and resolution to any players
>> affected. The Gamemaster MAY, if necessary, reveal small amounts of private
>> information in this process.
9. The Gamemaster MAY and SHOULD inform players of decisions made while
>> adjudicating the tournament, especially when e records an interpretation of
>> the rules as required under section 5 or resolves an error under section 8.
>> In doing so, the Gamemaster MAY, keeping in mind the best interest
>> interests of the game, reveal private information.
10. The initial rules of Nomaoic are below: {
Initial Set of Rules
Immutable Rules
101. All players must always abide by all the rules then in effect, in
>> the form in which they are then in effect. The rules in the Initial Set are
>> in effect when the tournament begins. The Initial Set consists of Rules
>> 101-116 (immutable) and 201-215 (mutable).
102. Initially rules in the 100's are immutable and rules in the 200's
>> are mutable. Rules subsequently enacted or transmuted (that is, changed
>> from immutable to mutable or vice versa) may be immutable or mutable
>> regardless of their numbers, and rules in the Initial Set may be transmuted
>> regardless of their numbers.
103. A rule-change is any of the following: (1) the enactment, repeal,
>> or amendment of a mutable rule; (2) the enactment, repeal, or amendment of
>> an amendment of a mutable rule; or (3) the transmutation of an immutable
>> rule into a mutable rule or vice versa.
104. All rule-changes proposed in the proper way shall be voted on.
>> They will be adopted if and only if they receive the required number of
>> votes.
105. Every player is an eligible voter.
106. All proposed rule-changes shall be sent to the Gamemaster before
>> they are voted on. If they are adopted, they shall guide play
Re: BUS: @Referee [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder for Proposals 8488-8489
On 8/26/20 5:20 PM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > On 2020-08-25 12:49, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 8/25/20 8:46 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote: >>> For each of Proposals 8488 and 8489, I hereby issue a humiliating public >>> reminder to each of the following slackers: >>> >>> omd, Aris, Gaelan, G., Cuddlebeam, nix, PSS, grok, Tyler, Zyborg, R. >>> Lee, >>> Fred, Shelvacu, twg, D. Margaux, Baron von Vanderham, sukil, Telnaior. >>> Please feel humiliated. >> >> >> So, I was going to have a script send this during the extended voting >> period (at the very end) as a little bit of malicious compliance, but I >> forgot to update the recipient from the test account to a-o. Feel free >> to point a finger; I deserve it. > > I Point my Finger at Jason for failing to issue a humiliating public > reminder in a timely fashion for Proposal 8488. > > I Point my Finger at Jason for the same for Proposal 8489. > I find each of these crimes to have occurred and impose the Cold Hand of Justice to levy an unforgivable fine of 2 blots for each of those violations. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: (proposal)
On 8/30/20 1:39 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > nix wrote: > >> On 8/28/20 11:17 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >>> I submit the following proposal, "Minor Adjustments", AI-3: >>> --- >>> >>> Increase the power of Rule 2633 (Rulebending) to 3. >>> >>> --- >> >> I issue the cabinet order Manifesto, distributing the above proposal. (I >> don't think I can assign it an ID, the Promotor has to I believe). The >> valid votes are FOR, AGAINST, PRESENT, as well as conditional votes. The >> assessor is the vote collector on this decision. > > I vote AGAINST. As do I. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: on today's episode of ATMunn's bad ideas
On 8/24/20 5:14 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> I perform the action denoted by curly brackets once for each filled
> office, where X is that office and Y is the player who holds that office:
>
> {
>
> I intend, with 2 Agoran consent, to impeach Y from the office of X.
>
> }
>
I object to these intents for every office I hold.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: But I Won't Do That [Finger Point]
On 8/23/20 4:41 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 8/23/20 7:58 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
> wrote:
>> On 8/17/20 11:39 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>>> On 8/3/20 7:56 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>>>> I make/consent to the following contract 'Trust Me':
>>>>
>>>> {
>>>> 1. Only G. CAN join this contract.
>>>>
>>>> 2. G. CAN terminate this contract by announcement;
>>>>
>>>> 3. G. SHALL, within one week, perform at least one of the actions
>>>> described in a document that G. has previously published that has the
>>>> SHA-256 hash:
>>>> f7609fa40a997e8f7533eb55e0c74b35800c937c8300aa2f70d4feb320247214
>>>> }
>>>
>>> I point my finger at G. for failure to abide by the above contract.
>>>
>> Because no preponderance of evidence suggests that the contract was
>> violated, I am unable to find this finger pointing to be anything other
>> than SHENANIGANS.
>>
>
> I point my finger at myself for committing the class 0 crime of
> unjustified gesticulating, in violation of Rule 2478.
>
I find this finger pointing to be valid and issue a Warning.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Glitteral
On 8/23/20 10:11 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 8/23/20 9:03 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-official > wrote: >> * Aug 16: Jason is awarded Transparent Glitter for ROGEBUVPAT, >> having been awarded by Proposal 8487 >> I award 14 coins. >> * Aug 16: Jason is awarded Transparent Glitter for ROGECBMUVPKAT, >> having been awarded by Proposal 8487 >> I award 14 coins. > > > "CoE": I don't think I earned transparent glitter twice. > That's correct. I believe that the second should be Trigon: * Aug 16: Trigon is awarded Transparent Glitter for ROGECBMUVPKAT, having been awarded by Proposal 8487 I award 14 coins. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: But I Won't Do That [Finger Point]
On 8/17/20 11:39 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 8/3/20 7:56 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
>> I make/consent to the following contract 'Trust Me':
>>
>> {
>> 1. Only G. CAN join this contract.
>>
>> 2. G. CAN terminate this contract by announcement;
>>
>> 3. G. SHALL, within one week, perform at least one of the actions
>> described in a document that G. has previously published that has the
>> SHA-256 hash:
>> f7609fa40a997e8f7533eb55e0c74b35800c937c8300aa2f70d4feb320247214
>> }
>
>
> I point my finger at G. for failure to abide by the above contract.
>
Because no preponderance of evidence suggests that the contract was
violated, I am unable to find this finger pointing to be anything other
than SHENANIGANS.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8490-8492
On 8/22/20 11:55 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > PROMOTOR'S REPORT AS OF RIGHT NOW > > I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating a referendum on it, > and removing it from the proposal pool. For this decision, the vote collector > is the Assessor, the quorum is 7, the voting method is AI-majority, and the > valid options are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are > conditional votes). > > ID Author(s)AITitle > --- > 8490* Jason3.0 Functional Emergency Regulations > 8491f^ ATMunn 2.0 Minor Speaker fix > 8492*^ Jason3.0 Unscoped RWO > I vote FOR each of these proposals. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Peer Review of Cuddlebeam's Visual Submissions
On 8/19/20 7:06 AM, Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion wrote: > Oof. > > How about this? https://imgur.com/a/VDAQaae > > > > Okay, that works. Cuddlebeam having submitted a work of artistry consistent with the expectations of a degree therein, I, as Herald, do seek opinions from you, eir peers, on the above submitted artistic works. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: (@treasuror) transfer
On 8/17/20 11:35 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > I transfer 30 coins to Publius. -G. > I award G. a gray ribbon. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8478-8487 (attn Tailor)
On 8/16/20 1:29 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: >> 8487 Simpler ribbon switches ADOPTED > >> ID: 8487 >> Title: Simpler ribbon switches >> Adoption index: 3.0 >> Author: Murphy >> Co-authors: R. Lee >> >> >> Amend Rule 2438 (Ribbons) by replacing this text: >> >> Ribbon Ownership is a secured person switch, tracked by the >> Tailor in eir monthly report, whose values are the subsets of >> the set of types of Ribbon, defaulting to the empty set. If the >> rules are amended to change the types of Ribbon, if a player's >> Ribbon Ownership is subsequently illegal, then it is updated by >> removing all nonexistent types rather than resetting the entire >> value to default. >> >> To "award a person a " is to add that type of Ribbon >> to that person's Ribbon Ownership. A person "owns a " >> if that type of Ribbon is an element of eir Ribbon Ownership. >> >> with this text: >> >> For each type of Ribbon, Ribbon Ownership is a secured >> negative boolean person switch, tracked by the Tailor in eir >> monthly report. >> >> To "award a person a " is to flip that person's >> Ribbon Ownership to True. A person "owns a > type>" if eir Ribbon Ownership is True. >> >> and by replacing this text: >> >> While a person owns all types of Ribbon, that person can Raise a >> Banner by announcement. This causes that person to win the game. >> That person's Ribbon Ownership becomes the empty set. >> >> with this text: >> >> While a person owns all types of Ribbon, that person can Raise a >> Banner by announcement. This causes that person to win the game. >> When a person wins this way, for each type of Ribbon, that >> person's Ribbon Ownership is flipped to False. >> >> For each type of Ribbon, for each person whose Ribbon Ownership prior to >> the adoption of this proposal included that type, flip eir >> Ribbon Ownership to True. > > Having been (re-)awarded RCBMUVKA by this proposal, I award myself a > Transparent Ribbon. > Having been re-awarded ROGECBMUVLKA, I do so as well. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
[Attn. Treasuror] Re: BUS: [Promise] Promising Victory
On 8/15/20 6:17 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> I grant myself the following promise and transfer it to PSS:
>
> {
>
> Cashing Condition: PSS transfers 2 victory cards to nix.
>
> Effect: Nix pays 4 victory cards for 10 victory points. Nix transfers 5
> victory points to PSS.
>
> }
>
I cash this promise while transferring 2 victory cards to nix, causing
em to pay 4 victory cards for 10 victory points and to transfer five
victory points to me.
--
----
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners, Badge, and Clean-up
On 8/14/20 10:32 AM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > On 8/14/2020 6:51 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> On 8/9/20 5:17 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >>> Oh, okay, I think that's substantially different enough to require a new >>> intent, so I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge of >>> Diplonomic to ATMunn, G., Jason, Aris, Falsifian, R. Lee, omd, Trigon, >>> Ben & Claire of BC System, and P.S.S.. >>> >>> Thank you for getting their perspective, so that we can follow their >>> wishes! >>> >> >> With the support of Aris, Trigon, Jason, ATMunn, and Falsifian and with >> no objections, I do so. >> > > I award myself Violet glitter. > As do I. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners, Badge, and Clean-up
On 8/9/20 5:17 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Oh, okay, I think that's substantially different enough to require a new > intent, so I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge of > Diplonomic to ATMunn, G., Jason, Aris, Falsifian, R. Lee, omd, Trigon, > Ben & Claire of BC System, and P.S.S.. > > Thank you for getting their perspective, so that we can follow their wishes! > With the support of Aris, Trigon, Jason, ATMunn, and Falsifian and with no objections, I do so. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Agoran Directory
On 8/9/20 9:12 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > > >> On Aug 9, 2020, at 6:03 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via >> agora-discussion wrote: >> >> My inclination is to find this to be SHENANIGANS because it cannot be >> found that Gaelan definitely committed any specific crime. > > I sure hope I didn't. > > Falsifian is the potential perp here, though. > > We've run into client-dependent eyebleeding before, with 天火狐: generally, > Chinese/Japanese characters are supposed to be the width of two fixed-width > characters, but some mail clients just rendered them as non-fixed-width > characters. I'll go digging in the archives and see if any CFJs got called. > > Gaelan > Oh, I just read the first name and misunderstood, my apologies. I find this finger pointing to be SHENANIGANS because the evidence conflicts as to what action occurred, so there is not a preponderance of evidence that any specific unlawful act took place. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8478-8487 [Ribbon]
On 8/9/20 8:54 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > I award myself violet glitter. > As do I. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: OFF: (@Referee) Re: [Arbitor] Voting on the Indictment of R. Lee
On 8/9/20 5:47 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote: > > I resolve the below indictment decisions as follows: > > On 8/2/2020 10:01 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> Indictment Decision 01-A >> Resolved: That R. Lee be convicted (found guilty) for breaching eir >> pledge, "Honor in Scammery". > > FOR: Jason, Falsifian, Aris > AGAINST: > PRESENT: R. Lee, nix (endorse R. Lee), omd (denounce R. Lee). > Quorum: 6/6 > F/A: 10/0 > Result: ADOPTED > >> Indictment Decision 01-B >> Resolved: That the indictment fine of 1 blot, as issued by the Referee, >> be accepted. > > FOR: Jason, Falsifian, Aris > AGAINST: > PRESENT: R. Lee, nix (endorse R. Lee), omd (denounce R. Lee). > Quorum: 6/6 > F/A: 10/0 > Result: ADOPTED > With the indictment having been accepted, I impose a fine of one blot on R. Lee. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners, Badge, and Clean-up
On 8/9/20 5:15 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:12 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-business wrote: > >> On 8/2/20 1:47 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >>> I intend, with 2 days notice, to announce G., ATMunn, and Jason as >>> winners of this year's Birthday Tournament. >> >> I do so. >> >>> >>> I intend, without 3 objections, to repeal all Birthday Tournament >>> regulations. >> >> I do so. >> >> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge of Diplonomic to >> ATMunn, G., Jason, Aris, Falsifian, R. Lee, omd, Trigon, Ben & Claire, >> Ben & Claire, and P.S.S.. > > > Oop, never noted their response on this. They'd be fine with one title > instance going to both of them, under the name "Ben & Claire of BC System". > > -Aris > Oh, okay, I think that's substantially different enough to require a new intent, so I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge of Diplonomic to ATMunn, G., Jason, Aris, Falsifian, R. Lee, omd, Trigon, Ben & Claire of BC System, and P.S.S.. Thank you for getting their perspective, so that we can follow their wishes! -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: [Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners, Badge, and Clean-up
On 8/2/20 1:47 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I intend, with 2 days notice, to announce G., ATMunn, and Jason as > winners of this year's Birthday Tournament. I do so. > > I intend, without 3 objections, to repeal all Birthday Tournament > regulations. I do so. I intend, with Agoran Consent, to award the Badge of Diplonomic to ATMunn, G., Jason, Aris, Falsifian, R. Lee, omd, Trigon, Ben & Claire, Ben & Claire, and P.S.S.. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: @Arbitor BUS: I wish to register
One doesn’t celebrate one’s **first** wedding anniversary on the day of one’s wedding, therefore the day of one’s wedding cannot be a wedding anniversary because it would be the first. > On Aug 8, 2020, at 21:32, shelvacu via agora-business > wrote: >
Fwd: BUS: Publication of potential rule change
TTttPF Begin forwarded message: > From: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > Date: August 6, 2020 at 16:47:45 EDT > To: agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org > Subject: BUS: Publication of potential rule change > > Since it’s going to happen, I do as well > >>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 14:05, Jason Cobb via agora-business >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 8/5/20 2:11 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >>> The below document, labelled THE MYSTERY DOCUMENT, contains the text of a >>> rule change. The rule change will be incorporated by reference into the >>> effects of proposal 8483 (quoted below), and the rule change will take >>> effect if and when that proposal takes effect. The rule change text, along >>> with this specification of the method to be used for the rule change, is >>> being published in accordance with the 'at least 4 days' clause of Rule 105. >> >> >> Since it seems to be all the rage these days (and I do need a violet >> ribbon), I change my vote on Proposal 8483 to FOR. >> >> -- >> Jason Cobb >>
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Publication of potential rule change
TTttPF > On Aug 6, 2020, at 16:48, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >
Re: BUS: [attn. Arbitor] CFJ 3870 judged FALSE
On 8/4/20 8:39 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/29/20 1:46 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
>> The below CFJ is 3870. I assign it to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
>>
>> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3870
>>
>> === CFJ 3870 ===
>>
>> The "this message" in the disclaimer in evidence applies to the
>> whole email, not merely the {{{ }}}-delimited section.
>>
>> ==
>
> Whether or not the delimited section is a distinct public message is
> irrelevant because the disclaimer does not prevent all actions, only
> modify what intent we may find. Because Trigon clearly intended for the
> delimited section to be read separately and explicitly states as much, e
> did not intend for the disclaimer to prevent other actions, therefore,
> in so much as "applies" describes having an effect on the interpretation
> of actions taking elsewhere, I find that it did not apply to other parts
> of the message. I find FALSE.
>
I award myself Blue Glitter for this judgment.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [attn. Arbitor] CFJ 3870 judged FALSE
On 7/29/20 1:46 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
> The below CFJ is 3870. I assign it to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus.
>
> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3870
>
> === CFJ 3870 ===
>
> The "this message" in the disclaimer in evidence applies to the
> whole email, not merely the {{{ }}}-delimited section.
>
> ==
Whether or not the delimited section is a distinct public message is
irrelevant because the disclaimer does not prevent all actions, only
modify what intent we may find. Because Trigon clearly intended for the
delimited section to be read separately and explicitly states as much, e
did not intend for the disclaimer to prevent other actions, therefore,
in so much as "applies" describes having an effect on the interpretation
of actions taking elsewhere, I find that it did not apply to other parts
of the message. I find FALSE.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8478-8487
On 8/2/20 6:05 PM, N. S. via agora-discussion wrote: >> AGAINST until and unless G. contacts me separately > > Conditional impossible to evaluate > That wasn't intended as a conditional; it was intended as an explanation. On that proposal, I withdraw all previous votes and vote AGAINST. > On Mon., 3 Aug. 2020, 8:02 am Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-business, wrote: > >> I vote as follows: >> >> On 8/2/20 5:58 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: >>> ID Author(s)AITitle >>> >> --- >>> 8478*^ Jason, nix, G. 3.0 another talismans fix >> FOR >>> 8479j^ nix, Aris, PSS, ATMunn 1.7 Competitive Finger Pointing v2 >> FOR >>> 8480e^ Jason1.0 Generic welcome package fix >> FOR >>> 8481*^ Trigon, Aris 3.0 If it's not pending we don't care >> v2 >> FOR >>> 8482f^ Trigon, ATMunn 1.0 Offices are complex v2 >> FOR >>> 8483l^ G. 1.0 a minor adjustment >> AGAINST until and unless G. contacts me separately. >>> 8484*^ Murphy, CB, Aris 3.0 Clarify asset ownership >> FOR >>> 8485*^ Gaelan, Aris 3.0 Eternal Personhood >> FOR >>> 8486* Jason, omd 3.0 Fee-based de-escalation >> FOR >>> 8487*^ Murphy, R. Lee 3.0 Simpler ribbon switches >> FOR >> -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8478-8487
I vote as follows: On 8/2/20 5:58 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > ID Author(s)AITitle > --- > 8478*^ Jason, nix, G. 3.0 another talismans fix FOR > 8479j^ nix, Aris, PSS, ATMunn 1.7 Competitive Finger Pointing v2 FOR > 8480e^ Jason1.0 Generic welcome package fix FOR > 8481*^ Trigon, Aris 3.0 If it's not pending we don't care v2 FOR > 8482f^ Trigon, ATMunn 1.0 Offices are complex v2 FOR > 8483l^ G. 1.0 a minor adjustment AGAINST until and unless G. contacts me separately. > 8484*^ Murphy, CB, Aris 3.0 Clarify asset ownership FOR > 8485*^ Gaelan, Aris 3.0 Eternal Personhood FOR > 8486* Jason, omd 3.0 Fee-based de-escalation FOR > 8487*^ Murphy, R. Lee 3.0 Simpler ribbon switches FOR
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] BT3 Intent to Announce Winners, Badge, and Clean-up
I intend, with 2 days notice, to announce G., ATMunn, and Jason as winners of this year's Birthday Tournament. I intend, without 3 objections, to repeal all Birthday Tournament regulations. I also plan to award the badge for this tournament in the next few days. I would be interested in receiving suggestions for titles. I am currently planning to award it to ATMunn, G., Jason, Aris, Falsifian, R. Lee, omd, Trigon, Ben (Aris's friend), Claire (Aris's friend), and myself. If you can think of anyone else to whom it should be awarded, please let me know. This has been a fun tournament and I look forward to hearing about everything I couldn't see. If you would like to give feedback privately, feel free to reach out; if you would like to give feedback or share information with the public but anonymously, also contact me and I will share it as long as it isn't problematic, offensive, or personal. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Proposal
oved first. If units are equally distant, then remove Fleets before Armies and then in alphabetical order by the provinces in which they’re located. 25. Where these rules are silent, the Gamemaster CAN make use of the official rules or eir own common sense to ensure smooth play. The Gamemaster SHALL, no later than July 10, publish the assignments of Great Powers and announce the day on which the game will begin. 29. All Contestants and other involved participants SHOULD use the "[Diplonomic 2020]" or "[Attn. Gamemaster]" or "[@ Gamemaster]" signalling to draw attention to emails relating to Diplonomic 2020. All Contestants and other involved participants SHOULD, when requested, include advisors and other assistants in communications with specific other participants. 30. Nations have the following "superpowers". (The names of the superpowers are immaterial.) * Austria: "Disruption field". Austria can issue the order "Disrupt X" to up to one unit each turn, where X is a territory reachable in one or two steps from that unit's territory (i.e. adjacent or adjacent to adjacent). The orders of the unit in territory X are overridden, and it is treated as having been ordered to "hold". * England: "Super-strength". Any unit can convoy any number of other units. Specifically: when England gives a convoy order, they only need specify that the unit "Convoy" without specifying a source or destination, and any number of England's other units can move through territories with non-displaced convoying units. * France: "Skin of stone". Any empty territory with an SC controlled by France is treated as having a French unit in it, unless a real French unit is ordered to move into it. For example, France can use a unit to support-hold an empty territory as if e had a unit there. * Germany: "Explosive force". Whenever a German movement is ordered to move out of a territory with an SC controlled by Germany, that movement is treated as having one additional support. * Italy: "Teleportation". When an Italian unit is at least three spaces away from every other Italian unit (i.e. it would take three movements to move between those territories), that unit is said to be "isolated". When a territory is empty and all its neighbouring territories are also empty, the territory is said to be "forgotten". For Italy's orders only, every isolated unit's territory is adjacent to every forgotten territory. * Russia: "Elongated arms". For Russian orders only, Mos is adjacent to Boh, and the coast of Sev and the two costs of Stp are all adjacent. * Turkey: "The ghost ship". If Turkey controls no supply centres, then e is still able to support one fleet, and if e does not have a fleet, e can build it (during the build stage) in any water territory. This exception does not apply if all three of Turkey's home SCs are controlled by the same Great Power. 31. England is eliminated as a contestant. Austria, Italy, and Russia hereby win the game. } -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Judicial Stuff [attn. Referee, Arbitor]
On 8/2/20 3:15 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > I just remembered that I'm late on CFJ 3869. This is, frankly, ridiculous. > I favored the case. I just missed a judicial deadline before this. Agora > has every right to expect better of its judges. > > I point my finger at myself for my failure to timely judge CFJ 3869. I expect > to have an opinion out within the next 24 hours, 48 hours tops. In the > interest of people knowing the outcome, I can state that it is possible for > people to send public messages. > > I am no longer interested in judging cases. I have no place being a judge > when I can't even remember which cases I'm assigned. > > -Aris > Having found that Aris has not delivered a timely judgment in CFJ 3869, I impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of two blots. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [Proposal, Petition] Fee-based method fix
On 7/29/20 8:45 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 7/29/20 8:44 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 10:50 AM Jason Cobb via agora-business < >> agora-business@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >>> I submit the following proposal and petition the H. Promotor to attempt >>> to pend it with 2 support: >>> >>> Title: Fee-based de-escalation >> >> [I asked Jason to explain the bug on Discord. Apparently there's a power >> escalation that allows a rule of any power to make an action performed with >> a fee of 0, causing the fee-based actions rule to provide a method to do it >> by announcement at power 3.0.] >> >> My response to the petition: >> For N from 2 to 5, I intend with N support to pend the proposal submitted >> in the quote above. > > > I support each such intent. > As do I. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Election [attn. ADoP, Tailor]
On 7/27/20 5:42 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/23/20 5:32 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
>> Seeing as I now need an emerald ribbon:
>>
>> I initiate an election for Assessor.
>>
>> I become a candidate in this election. Campaign speech: I'd like to
>> continue being the Assessor. [I'm sure this will make everyone very
>> excited to vote for me.]
>>
>>
>> I affirm that this is not part of an attempt to gain an infinite amount
>> of glitter.
>>
>
> The nomination period for this election has elapsed, and no other person
> has become a candidate. This is an uncontested election.
>
> I perform the following actions 1000 times:
>
> {
>
> /* this space intentionally left blank */
>
> }
>
>
> I declare myself the winner of this election, thereby causing myself to
> win it.
>
> I award myself an Emerald ribbon.
>
I award Jason a Transparent ribbon.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Herald] Let's Award an A.N.A. to Aris
I certify that the peer review process has occurred and intend, with 2 Agoran consent, to award Aris the degree of Associate of Nomic Artistry. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Bribery [attn. Tailor]
On 7/26/20 8:38 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I pledge to pay the Tailor 20 coins in a timely fashion if e awards me a > Gray ribbon within the next 12 hours. > I award a Gray ribbon to Jason. With accepting a bribe from R. Lee, I established a pattern of this, which I feel obligated to continue. Jason has privately described to me how e plans to use it as part of the legitimate ribbon game and assured me that there is no scam, so I have no serious ethical qualms about it given that Agoran officers are permitted to accept limited bribes. -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Petition to the ADoP
As do I. I also object to the intent regarding the economy. > On Jul 26, 2020, at 13:52, Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: > > On 7/26/20 1:50 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: >> I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its >> current value + 'Justice'). >> >> I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its >> current value + 'Efficiency'). >> >> I intend, without objection, to flip the interest of Coopor to (its >> current value + 'Legislation'). > > > I object to the above three intents. > > -- > Jason Cobb >
Re: [@Treasuror, @Referee, @Promotor] Re: BUS: [Proposal][@Notary] Competitive Finger Pointing v2
On 7/23/20 4:53 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: > On 7/20/20 3:26 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: >> I withdraw Competitive Finger Pointing. I forgot that the rules don't >> really support Class 0 Crimes. Here's a version that adds a new thing >> for them: warnings. If someone committed a Class 0 Crime, e can be given >> a Warning. >> >> I pledge to, until the end of this calendar month, either pend or >> withdraw all proposals I submit within 48 hours of submitting them. >> >> I submit the following proposal: > > I pay a pendant to pend Competitive Finger Pointing v2. I point a finger > at myself for breaking the above quoted pledge. > I find the violation to have occurred and resolve this finger by imposing the Cold Hand of Justice. To do so, I levy an unforgivable fine of 1 blot because the proposal was eventually pended and no significant disruption was caused. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] BT2 Removal of R. Lee
As France has been eliminated, it is with great sadness that I cause R. Lee to cease to be a Contestant in the 2020 Birthday Tournament, pursuant to Regulation BT2. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Proposals
two costs of Stp are all adjacent. * Turkey: "The ghost ship". If Turkey controls no supply centres, then e is still able to support one fleet, and if e does not have a fleet, e can build it (during the build stage) in any water territory. This exception does not apply if all three of Turkey's home SCs are controlled by the same Great Power. [2]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Diplomacy.svg } -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: @Arbitor Sillyness [Finger Pointing]
On 7/24/20 8:57 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/24/20 5:40 AM, N. S. via agora-business wrote:
>> So there's precedent that you can basically take a shortcut to do many
>> actions (a loop of them) as long as it is reasonable that you could perform
>> those actions by writing them out.
>>
>> Therefore, I call N CFJs with the statement "This is a CFJ" where N is the
>> number of CFJs that it would be reasonable for me to fully write out.
>>
>
> I have my doubts about whether the above worked, but just in case:
>
> I perform the following actions 100 times:
>
> {
>
> I point my finger at R. Lee for initiating an excess case.
>
> }
>
In keeping with the Arbitor's finding that no cases were initiated, I
find each of these finger-pointings to be SHENANIGANS.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
[attn. Notary, Treasuror] Re: BUS: [Promise] Legislative Split
On 7/23/20 6:17 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> I grant myself a promise with the text:
>
> {
> Cashing conditions: P.S.S. has transferred Trigon 2 Legislative Cards in
> the same message as the cashing of this promise.
>
> Effects: Trigon destroys 4 Legislative Cards in order to grant emself 10
> Pendants. Trigon then transfers 5 Pendants to P.S.S.
> }
>
> I transfer that promise to P.S.S.
>
I cash this promise by transferring 2 legislative cards to Trigon,
causing em to destroy them and grant emself 10 Pendants, 5 of which e is
caused to transfer to me.
Thank you, Trigon, it's been nice doing business with you.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Proposal
On 7/23/20 8:24 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
wrote:
> With 6 votes FOR and no votes AGAINST, I enact "Teammate Participation":
> {{
> Amend rule 7 by appending the paragraph:
> {
> A Contestant CAN by announcement grant (or revoke) authorization to a
> teammate to submit or change orders for eir country. On a contestant’s
> request, the Gamemaster SHALL inform em which orders have been submitted
> for eir country, and by whom.
> }
> Amend rule 22 by replacing “If a player” with “If a country”.
> Amend rule 23 by replacing "As part of eir Fall orders, each player”
> with “As part of its Fall orders, each country”.
> Amend rule 24 by replacing "If a player leaves the game or otherwise
> fail to submit orders” with “If a Contestant leaves the game, or eir
> country otherwise fails to submit orders”.
> }}
>
> The new text of the rules is as follows:
> {
> 6. The game SHALL be conducted on a map mechanically indistinguishable
> from that appearing at [2]. The Gamemaster SHALL assign Great Powers to
> Contestants according to an equitable and random method.
>
> 7. Contestants may seek the assistance of non-Contestants. If any do so,
> they SHALL notify the Judge and publicly announce the identities of any
> such non-Contestants and what assistance they will provide. This could
> include negotiating on eir behalf, providing feedback on orders, or
> drafting proposals on eir behalf. Any notifications given under the
> former section 7 of the Birthday Tournament regulations are considered
> to have fulfilled this section of the Diplonomic 2020 rules.
>
> A contestant CAN, by announcement, cause a person who consents to become
> or cease to be eir teammate, provided the person is not another
> contestant or the teammate of another contestant. Designating someone as
> a teammate is considered a notification that the teammate may assist the
> contestant in any manner. When these rules provide for certain
> contestants to win by a certain method, the Gamemaster CAN include their
> teammates and SHALL do so unless it is eir opinion that extraordinary
> circumstances render it against the best interest of the tournament.
> Teammates are encouraged to lie to and cheat other teams, and SHALL NOT
> engage in any behaviors outside of the tournament intended to influence
> its course; however, they SHALL NOT betray their teams.
>
> A Contestant CAN by announcement grant (or revoke) authorization to a
> teammate to submit or change orders for eir country. On a contestant’s
> request, the Gamemaster SHALL inform em which orders have been submitted
> for eir country, and by whom.
>
> 8. During the negotiation or order-submission periods, any Contestant
> CAN submit a proposal to change these rules privately to the Judge.
> Before the beginning of each turn, the Judge SHALL publish the texts of
> all proposals submitted during the previous turn. The Judge SHALL NOT
> reveal the identity of the submitter. Players CAN vote a proposal so
> published, or withdraw/change their votes, by submitting their votes
> privately to the judge, only during the turn immediately following that
> proposal's publication by the judge.
>
> The judge CAN and SHALL resolve all proposals on which voting closed at
> the end of the previous turn, before the next turn, but only after
> resolving moves and unit adjustments for that turn. As an exception to
> the previous sentence, if the enactment of a proposal would interfere
> with the Judge's ability to ensure the smooth running of the game in
> accordance with these rules, then the judge NEED NOT resolve it, so long
> as e publishes an explanation of the problem. E resolves the proposal by
> publishing the number of votes in favor of it; if the proposal has
> received a number of non-withdrawn votes in favor greater than half the
> number of Contestants, it is enacted, otherwise it fails. The Judge
> SHALL NOT reveal the votes of specific Contestants. If the text of the
> rules changes, the Judge SHALL publish the new rules text before the
> start of the next turn.
>
> 9. If in the past three game-years, no province has changed ownership,
> the Gamemaster CAN declare the game a draw, with 2 days notice,
> concluding the Tournament and announcing all remaining Contestants as
> winners.
>
> 11. There are two types of units: Armies and Fleets.
>
> 12. All units have the same strength.
>
> 13. There can only be one unit in a province at a time.
>
> 14. At the start of the game, each Great Power controls three supply
> centers, with the exception of Russia, which controls four. These are
> allocated according to the table shown in the official rules.
>
> 15. At the beginning of each tur
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Proposal
build armies, but only coastal provinces can build fleets. 24. If a Contestant leaves the game or eir country otherwise fails to submit orders on a given Spring or Fall turn, the Gamemaster SHALL attempt to replace em with a new Contestant, but if this fails, it's assumed that eir government has collapsed. Eir units all hold in position, but don’t support each other. If they’re dislodged, they’re disbanded. No new units are raised for the country. If a country in civil disorder has to remove units, the units farthest from the country are removed first. If units are equally distant, then remove Fleets before Armies and then in alphabetical order by the provinces in which they’re located. 25. Where these rules are silent, the Gamemaster CAN make use of the official rules or eir own common sense to ensure smooth play. The Gamemaster SHALL, no later than July 10, publish the assignments of Great Powers and announce the day on which the game will begin. 29. All Contestants and other involved participants SHOULD use the "[Diplonomic 2020]" or "[Attn. Gamemaster]" or "[@ Gamemaster]" signalling to draw attention to emails relating to Diplonomic 2020. All Contestants and other involved participants SHOULD, when requested, include advisors and other assistants in communications with specific other participants. [2]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Diplomacy.svg } Please submit proposals for the next turn. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
[Indictment] Re: DIS: [attn. G.] Re: BUS: [Notary] The Notes (pledges & promises) - revision 2
On 7/22/20 12:11 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > On 7/22/2020 8:26 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> On 7/22/20 2:37 AM, N. S. via agora-business wrote: >>>> "Honor in scammery" created by R. Lee >>> >>> I point my finger at myself for violating this pledge >> Because breach of this fine is a class 1000 crime, an Indictment will be >> needed here. G., do you have a preference for how many blots to impose >> as the aggrieved party? >> > > I was a full conspirator in the scam underlying this, the ability to > fulfill the pledge depended on the scam working, and e made a full attempt > to fulfill the conditions (e published a message that would have kept the > pledge, during the time we thought the scam had worked). The fact that e > didn't a put a "this is void if the scam fails" (which was a common-sense > understanding between us) isn't injurious at all, from my personal POV. > > Any punishment above a trivial level (I dunno, 1 or 2) would be leveraging > this pledge to punish em for the scam attempt overall IMO; and nch and I > were equal partners in the conspiracy. > > -G. > Given that G. is in agreement with a minimal fine, I issue an Indictment finding R. Lee guilty of breaching eir pledge, "Honor in Scammery", specifying a fine of 1 blot. I recommend that e be found guilty and the Indictment imposed only because e clearly breached the pledge and e should have been more careful in drafting it. R. Lee, please prepare a defense. G., please prepare to initiate the decisions. Maybe this time, we'll finally get to see how the process works. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract-Specific Contracts
On 7/20/20 9:54 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via > signature) to be Trigon: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044216.html I find Gaelan to be in violation of No Faking in this instance and impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of two blots. > > I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via > signature) to be Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044227.html I find Gaelan to be in violation of No Faking in this instance and impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying an unforgivable fine of two blots. > > There is a clear implication of identity when using a signature. This is > a direct lie in at least 1 of these situations (from immediate evidence, > likely both). Further, each instance shows a clear intent to mislead Agora > as to this person's identity. On Discord, after the first message above, > Trigon got asked if e was running a fake but forgot to change eir > signature. So this misleading announcement was pernicious enough to > result in direct accusations of criminal behavior on a (most likely?) > innocent person. When these were pointed, I was going to raise the possibility that I was Greg, and therefore G. couldn't do this, but now it's not relevant. Since we know who Greg was and that e was a player, I believe that punishment should be imposed; however, I will keep it to the base value given that Gaelan has come forward. Because Gaelan exercised active control over the messages, I believe that Greg is Gaelan for these purposes. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Proposals
No proposals pass today. With 3 votes AGAINST and 1 FOR, I resolve Anonymous Proposal #1 as FAILED. With 4 votes AGAINST and 0 FOR, I resolve "A little bonus" as FAILED. With 3 votes AGAINST and 1 FOR, I resolve "Spies" as FAILED. With 4 votes AGAINST and 0 FOR, I resolve "drain the seas" as FAILED. Please submit your proposals for the next turn before 24:00 UTC. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8477
I vote as follows: On 7/19/20 7:48 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote: > > ID Author(s)AITitle > --- > 8477e^ Jason1.0 More officer cards FOR -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution and Enactment of "Judicial Veto 2"
ntry. If a country in civil disorder has to remove units, the units farthest from the country are removed first. If units are equally distant, then remove Fleets before Armies and then in alphabetical order by the provinces in which they’re located. 25. Where these rules are silent, the Gamemaster CAN make use of the official rules or eir own common sense to ensure smooth play. The Gamemaster SHALL, no later than July 10, publish the assignments of Great Powers and announce the day on which the game will begin. 29. All Contestants and other involved participants SHOULD use the "[Diplonomic 2020]" or "[Attn. Gamemaster]" or "[@ Gamemaster]" signalling to draw attention to emails relating to Diplonomic 2020. All Contestants and other involved participants SHOULD, when requested, include advisors and other assistants in communications with specific other participants. [2]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Diplomacy.svg } -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: BUS: [@Platonic Pirates] Platonic Parrot Amendment
On 7/18/20 3:34 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/18/2020 3:03 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
>> On 7/18/20 1:58 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
>>> {
>>>
>>> Replace the following text:
>>>
>>> "This contract may be amended by a Platonic Pirate with the consent of
>>> 2/3rds (rounded up) of all Platonic Pirates."
>>>
>>> with:
>>>
>>> "Any Platonic Pirate CAN propose an amendment to this contract by
>>> announcement. If an amendment was proposed between 2 and 7 days ago,
>>> hasn't already been applied, and at least 2/3rds (rounded up) of
>>> Platonic
>>> Pirates have consented to it, then any Platonic Pirate CAN amend this
>>> contract as described in the proposal."
>>>
>>> }
>>
>> I consent to the above amendment to the Platonic Parrot.
>>
>
> As do I.
>
As do I.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
[attn. Treasuror] Re: BUS: A wild Ponzi scheme appears [attn. Notary]
On 7/17/20 8:45 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/17/20 8:41 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> I consent to and create the following contract:
>
>
> Being the only party, I amend the Ponzi scheme by appending the
> following paragraph to Section 1:
>
> {
>
> If an investor's investment is less than or equal to 1, the
> Administrator CAN by announcement remove em from the bread line.
>
> }
>
>
I become a party to this contract and transfer ten coins to it.
--
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution and Enactment of Proposals
onvoy, with the exception that if a fleet is dislodged, it is not participating. A convoy is successful if the army in question makes a move order consistent with that convoy, and the fleets participating in the convoy form an unbroken chain connecting the two coastal provinces. (Extra participating fleets / multiple chains are okay.) When a convoy is successful, that army's move order, and any support orders for that move, are interpreted as if the source and destination provinces were adjacent: for example, if the destination province holds one unsupported unit with a Hold order, and another army is supporting the move into the destination, then the move succeeds and dislodges that unsupported unit. 18. Bulgaria, Spain, and St. Petersburg have separately identified coasts, between which fleets cannot move. If Fleets occupy adjacent water provinces, an Army can be convoyed through all these water provinces on one turn, landing in a coastal province adjacent to the final Fleet in the chain. 19. If two units of equal strength or which are equally supported are trying to occupy the same province, all remain where they began. If two or more equally supported units are ordered to the same province, none of them can move. If two units are each ordered to the province that the other occupies, neither can move. If a move is successful, the attacking unit moves into the province to which it was ordered. If the unit that was attacked had no orders of its own to move elsewhere, it’s defeated and dislodged from the province. The dislodged unit must retreat or be disbanded. 20. A unit moves with its own strength combined with all of its valid supports. Support is cut if the unit giving support is attacked from any province except the one where support is being given or if the unit giving support is dislodged. 21. A country can’t dislodge or support the dislodgment of one of its own units, even if that dislodgment is unexpected. An attack by a country on one of its own units doesn’t cut support. A convoyed Army doesn’t cut the support of a unit supporting an attack against one of the Fleets necessary for the Army to convoy. 22. A dislodged unit must retreat to an adjacent province. Retreats can’t be convoyed or supported. If two or more units are ordered to retreat to the same province, they all must be disbanded. If a player fails to order a retreat when necessary, the unit is disbanded. 23. A country controls a supply center when one of its units occupies that supply-center province after a Fall turn has been played and completed. Once a country gains control of a supply center, it can leave the center vacant and still keep control of it, as long as that center isn’t occupied by another country at the close of a Fall turn. As part of eir Fall orders, each player adjusts the number of units it had to match the number of supply centers it controls. If a country has fewer supply centers than units, it must disband the excess number of units. If a country has more supply centers than units, it can place new units in each unoccupied supply center of its home country that it still controls. All provinces can build armies, but only coastal provinces can build fleets. 24. If a player leaves the game or otherwise fail to submit orders on a given Spring or Fall turn, the Gamemaster SHALL attempt to replace em with a new Contestant, but if this fails, it's assumed that eir government has collapsed. Eir units all hold in position, but don’t support each other. If they’re dislodged, they’re disbanded. No new units are raised for the country. If a country in civil disorder has to remove units, the units farthest from the country are removed first. If units are equally distant, then remove Fleets before Armies and then in alphabetical order by the provinces in which they’re located. 25. Where these rules are silent, the Gamemaster CAN make use of the official rules or eir own common sense to ensure smooth play. The Gamemaster SHALL, no later than July 10, publish the assignments of Great Powers and announce the day on which the game will begin. 29. All Contestants and other involved participants SHOULD use the "[Diplonomic 2020]" or "[Attn. Gamemaster]" or "[@ Gamemaster]" signalling to draw attention to emails relating to Diplonomic 2020. All Contestants and other involved participants SHOULD, when requested, include advisors and other assistants in communications with specific other participants. [2]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Diplomacy.svg } -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
[Cashing; @ Treasuror] Re: BUS: [Promise] Justice for hire
On 7/13/20 6:01 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following promise and transfer it to the Library:
>
> {
>
> Cashing conditions: the bearer has transferred or granted Jason 1
> Justice card in the same message as which e cashes this promise.
>
> I transfer the bearer 15 coins.
>
> }
>
I do the following as long as all actions are successful:
I transfer this promise to myself from the Library.
With reference to the office of Referee, I grant Jason 1 Justice card.
I cash this promise, causing Jason to transfer 15 coins to me.
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Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
Re: [attn. Platonic Pirates] Re: BUS: Contract: A Rival Ship Appears
On 7/13/20 6:07 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> On 7/13/2020 6:02 PM, ATMunn wrote:
>> On 7/12/2020 8:22 PM, Nch via agora-business wrote:
>>> I consent to the following contract:
>>>
>>> {
>>>
>>> The Platonic Parrot
>>>
>>> A party to this contract is also known as a Platonic Pirate. Any player
>>> who is not currently Marked can join this contract by announcement. Any
>>> player can leave this contract by announcement. When someone is
>>> deregistered, e automatically leaves the contract.
>>>
>>> If a Platonic Pirate objects to an intent to transfer assets to this
>>> contract, e ceases to be a party to the contract. If a player has
>>> objected to an intent to transfer assets to this contract in the last 7
>>> days, e is Marked.
>>>
>>> When the Platonic Parrot has assets, any Platonic Pirate CAN by
>>> announcement divy them in the following way:
>>>
>>> * Where X is the total number of coins owned by the Platonic Parrot and
>>> Y is the number of Platonic Pirates, e transfers each Platonic Pirate
>>> X/Y (rounded down) coins from the Platonic Parrot.
>>>
>>> * If there are still coins owned by the Platonic Parrot, e transfer
>>> emself all the remaining coins.
>>>
>>> * If there are any other assets owned by the Platonic Parrot, e
>>> transfers emself one of them of eir own choice.
>>>
>>> * If there are still assets owned by the Platonic Parrot, e transfers
>>> them to other Platonic Pirates such that no Platonic Pirate receives
>>> more than 1 more asset than any other Platonic Pirate (excluding the
>>> coins e gave emself in the earlier step). As long as this constraint
>>> is met, e may choose who gets what assets.
>>>
>>> This contract may be amended by a Platonic Pirate with the consent of
>>> 2/3rds (rounded up) of all Platonic Pirates.
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Nch
>>>
>>
>> I propose the following amendment to The Platonic Parrot:
>>
>> {
>> Replace the following text:
>>
>> "This contract may be amended by a Platonic Pirate with the consent of
>> 2/3rds (rounded up) of all Platonic Pirates."
>>
>> with the following:
>>
>> "Any Platonic Pirate may propose an amendment to this contract by
>> announcement. If at least 2/3rds (rounded up) of all Platonic Pirates
>> have consented to the amendment, and at least 2 days have passed since
>> the amendment was proposed, any Platonic Pirate can cause this contract
>> to be amended in this way by announcement."
>> }
>>
>
> I consent to this amendment.
>
As do I.
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Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
