Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

[Kenyon Prater]

I change my vote on Zombie Lots to FOR. Thanks!

On Feb 28, 2018 2:51 PM, "Kenyon Prater"  wrote:

I vote as follows:

ID Author(s)AI   Title   Pender  Pend fee
---
8016*  Alexis   2.4  PCOF [1]Alexis  3 sh.
FOR
8017*  Alexis   3.0  RTRW Cleanups   Alexis  WO [2]
FOR
8018*  Alexis   3.0  Random Bad Rule CleaningAlexis  WO [2]
FOR
8019*  Alexis   3.0  Crime ReformAlexis  WO [2]
FOR. The proto for crime reform is good, but since it's only 3 mentions in
the rules, we may as well add them again once crime reform passes and work
from a blank slate.

8020*  Aris, Ørjan  2.0  Office Restructuring v2 Aris3 sh.
AGAINST

8021*  G.   2.0  Limit Numerical silliness   G.  3 sh.
FOR
8022*  G.   1.0  Anyone can balance KarmaG.  3 sh.
FOR
8023*  G., Aris 2.0  Zombie Lots G.  3 sh.
PRESENT. I'm concerned by the fact that nothing seems to require the
Registrar to flip the master switch of a zombie? If somebody explains why
or else proposes to amend this, I'll vote FOR.

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

[Kenyon Prater]

I vote as follows:

ID Author(s)AI   Title   Pender  Pend fee
---
8016*  Alexis   2.4  PCOF [1]Alexis  3 sh.
FOR
8017*  Alexis   3.0  RTRW Cleanups   Alexis  WO [2]
FOR
8018*  Alexis   3.0  Random Bad Rule CleaningAlexis  WO [2]
FOR
8019*  Alexis   3.0  Crime ReformAlexis  WO [2]
FOR. The proto for crime reform is good, but since it's only 3 mentions in
the rules, we may as well add them again once crime reform passes and work
from a blank slate.
8020*  Aris, Ørjan  2.0  Office Restructuring v2 Aris3 sh.
AGAINST
8021*  G.   2.0  Limit Numerical silliness   G.  3 sh.
FOR
8022*  G.   1.0  Anyone can balance KarmaG.  3 sh.
FOR
8023*  G., Aris 2.0  Zombie Lots G.  3 sh.
PRESENT. I'm concerned by the fact that nothing seems to require the
Registrar to flip the master switch of a zombie? If somebody explains why
or else proposes to amend this, I'll vote FOR.

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

[Corona]

I vote as follows:​

ID Author(s) AI Title Pender Pend fee

8016* Alexis 2.4 PCOF [1] Alexis 3 sh.
FOR
8017* Alexis 3.0 RTRW Cleanups Alexis WO [2]
FOR
8018* Alexis 3.0 Random Bad Rule Cleaning Alexis WO [2]
FOR
8019* Alexis 3.0 Crime Reform Alexis WO [2]
PRESENT
8020* Aris, Ørjan 2.0 Office Restructuring v2 Aris 3 sh.
PRESENT
8021* G. 2.0 Limit Numerical silliness G. 3 sh.
FOR
8022* G. 1.0 Anyone can balance Karma G. 3 sh.
FOR
8023* G., Aris 2.0 Zombie Lots G. 3 sh.
FOR

~Corona

On 05:42, Feb 24, 2018, at 05:42, Aris Merchant 
 wrote:
>I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
>Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
>pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
>quorum is 3.0, the voting method is AI-majority and the valid options
>are FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is also a valid vote, as are conditional
>votes).
>
>ID Author(s)AI   Title   Pender  Pend
>fee
>---
>8016*  Alexis   2.4  PCOF [1]Alexis  3 sh.
>8017*  Alexis   3.0  RTRW Cleanups   Alexis  WO [2]
>8018*  Alexis   3.0  Random Bad Rule CleaningAlexis  WO [2]
>8019*  Alexis   3.0  Crime ReformAlexis  WO [2]
>8020*  Aris, Ørjan  2.0  Office Restructuring v2 Aris3 sh.
>8021*  G.   2.0  Limit Numerical silliness   G.  3 sh.
>8022*  G.   1.0  Anyone can balance KarmaG.  3 sh.
>8023*  G., Aris 2.0  Zombie Lots G.  3 sh.
>
>The proposal pool currently contains the following proposals:
>
>IDAuthor(s) AI   Title
>---
>pp1   Alexis1.0  Supportive Proposals
>
>
>[1] Paradoxical Contract Obligation Fix
>[2] Pended Without Objection
>
>Legend: * : Proposal is pending.
>
>A proposal may be pended for 3 shinies or Without Objection.
>
>The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
>
>//
>ID: 8016
>Title: Paradoxical Contract Obligation Fix
>Adoption index: 2.4
>Author: Alexis
>Co-authors:
>
>
>Amend Rule 2523 "Contracts as Agreements" by replacing "If whether an
>action is permitted or forbidden by a contract" with "If whether an
>action
>is permitted, forbidden, required, or made optional by a contract".
>
>//
>ID: 8017
>Title: RTRW Cleanups
>Adoption index: 3.0
>Author: Alexis
>Co-authors:
>
>
>Amend Rule 1688 (Power) by deleting the paragraph "Power less than one
>is
>called Ephemeral power, and an instrument with a power less than one is
>an
>Ephemeral instrument.".
>
>Amend Rule 2141 (Role and Attributes of Rules) by replacing "the
>Rulekeepor SHALL assign a title" with "the Rulekeepor CAN and SHALL
>assign
>a title".
>
>Amend Rule 2221 (Cleanliness) by replacing "capitalization," with
>"capitalization, formatting,". [I wanted to clean up some list bullet
>formatting, but found the rule doesn't allow it.]
>
>Amend Rule 2124 (Agoran Satisfaction) by replacing "the Executor of the
>announcement of intent is not eligible" with "the initiator of the
>intent
>is not eligible". [This deserves a note: we previously defined the
>Executor
>of a message to be the player who sent it, but that definition
>disappeared
>at some time. The effect was that if you were acting on behalf of
>someone
>else to intend something, you couldn't support the intent. But this
>wording
>accomplishes roughly the same effect, since under the old
>interpretation
>you could just have the player you acted on behalf of to intend the
>intent
>support it, seeing as there was no prohibition on it.]
>
>Amend Rules 1728 (Dependent Actions) and 2124, in that order, by
>replacing
>each instance of "With N Supporters" (case-insensitive) with "With N
>Support".
>
>Amend Rule 991 (Calls for Judgement) by replacing "within a week" with
>"in
>a timely fashion".
>
>Amend Rule 2492 (Recusal) to read as follows:
>   A judge CAN recuse emself from a CFJ e is assigned to by
>   announcement. When a judge recuses emself from a CFJ, then
>
>   * the CFJ becomes unassigned;
>
>   * the recused judge becomes ineligible to be assigned as a judge
> for a week; and
>
>   * the recused judge SHOULD suggest another judge for the CFJ to
> make the Arbitor's job easier.
>
>Amend Rule 2427 (Yellow Cards), by replacing "MAY" with "CAN",
>
>Amend Rule 2449 (Winning the Game) by adding "once, by announcement"
>after
>"Patent Title of Champion".
>
>Amend Rule 2509 (Numerical Switches) by replacing "In particular, a
>"natural" switch is a switch with possible values of the non-negative
>integers." with "In particular, a natural or integer switch is a switch
>with possible values the non-negative integers or all 

Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

[Gaelan Steele]

I change my votes on 8019 and 8020 to AGAINST per G's arguments. 

Gaelan 

> On Feb 27, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I vote:
> 
>> ---
>> 8016*  Alexis   2.4  PCOF [1]Alexis  3 sh.
> FOR
> 
>> 8017*  Alexis   3.0  RTRW Cleanups   Alexis  WO [2]
> FOR
> 
>> 8018*  Alexis   3.0  Random Bad Rule CleaningAlexis  WO [2]
> FOR
> 
>> 8019*  Alexis   3.0  Crime ReformAlexis  WO [2]
> AGAINST.  Good starting blocks for punishment reforms I just protoed.
> 
>> 8020*  Aris, Ørjan  2.0  Office Restructuring v2 Aris3 sh.
> AGAINST.  An interim person shouldn't have a time-out on that.  I think
> it's better for process to require an election (if uncontested, it's
> a minor 4-day process now).
> 
>> 8021*  G.   2.0  Limit Numerical silliness   G.  3 sh.
> FOR
> 
>> 8022*  G.   1.0  Anyone can balance KarmaG.  3 sh.
> FOR
> 
>> 8023*  G., Aris 2.0  Zombie Lots G.  3 sh.
> FOR
> 
> 

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

[Kerim Aydin]

I vote:

> ---
> 8016*  Alexis   2.4  PCOF [1]Alexis  3 sh.
FOR

> 8017*  Alexis   3.0  RTRW Cleanups   Alexis  WO [2]
FOR

> 8018*  Alexis   3.0  Random Bad Rule CleaningAlexis  WO [2]
FOR

> 8019*  Alexis   3.0  Crime ReformAlexis  WO [2]
AGAINST.  Good starting blocks for punishment reforms I just protoed.

> 8020*  Aris, Ørjan  2.0  Office Restructuring v2 Aris3 sh.
AGAINST.  An interim person shouldn't have a time-out on that.  I think
it's better for process to require an election (if uncontested, it's
a minor 4-day process now).

> 8021*  G.   2.0  Limit Numerical silliness   G.  3 sh.
FOR

> 8022*  G.   1.0  Anyone can balance KarmaG.  3 sh.
FOR

> 8023*  G., Aris 2.0  Zombie Lots G.  3 sh.
FOR

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

[Edward Murphy]

8016*  Alexis   2.4  PCOF [1]Alexis  3 sh.

PRESENT

8017*  Alexis   3.0  RTRW Cleanups   Alexis  WO [2]

PRESENT

8018*  Alexis   3.0  Random Bad Rule CleaningAlexis  WO [2]

PRESENT

8019*  Alexis   3.0  Crime ReformAlexis  WO [2]

AGAINST

8020*  Aris, Ørjan  2.0  Office Restructuring v2 Aris3 sh.

FOR

8021*  G.   2.0  Limit Numerical silliness   G.  3 sh.

FOR

8022*  G.   1.0  Anyone can balance KarmaG.  3 sh.

FOR

8023*  G., Aris 2.0  Zombie Lots G.  3 sh.

PRESENT

BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8016-8022

[Aris Merchant]

I vote as follows:

> ID Author(s)AI   Title   Pender  Pend fee
> ---
> 8016*  Alexis   2.4  PCOF [1]Alexis  3 sh.
FOR
> 8017*  Alexis   3.0  RTRW Cleanups   Alexis  WO [2]
FOR
> 8018*  Alexis   3.0  Random Bad Rule CleaningAlexis  WO [2]
PRESENT. I like archaic relics, and I'm going to propose expedition
again sometime. Still, a lot of this needs to go, and I'm not going to
hold it up.

> 8019*  Alexis   3.0  Crime ReformAlexis  WO [2]
PRESENT, see above.

> 8020*  Aris, Ørjan  2.0  Office Restructuring v2 Aris3 sh.
FOR. I find it alarming that we could not have removed V.J. Rafa after
eir recent scam if it had been executed perfectly and there were no
remaining violations to card em for.

> 8021*  G.   2.0  Limit Numerical silliness   G.  3 sh.
FOR
> 8022*  G.   1.0  Anyone can balance KarmaG.  3 sh.
FOR
> 8023*  G., Aris 2.0  Zombie Lots G.  3 sh.
FOR