Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-19 Thread comex
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: I CFJ {Warrigal has, at the time of this message, voted on proposal 6164}, then retract any CFJs initiated by me with the same text, if any. I'm going to say that you successfully called and then retracted a CFJ.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: I CFJ {Warrigal has, at the time of this message, voted on proposal 6164}, then retract any CFJs initiated by me with the same text, if any. Including the one you just initiated?

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: 6147: FOR The DB says you previously voted AGAINST this, thus this vote is ineffective for being over your voting limit.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6152-6164

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: 6155 O 1 1.0 comex        Refactor falsity FOR These and other votes on ordinary proposals still fail due to Rests zeroing your voting limit.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: OFF: Distribution of proposals 6140-6151

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
OscarMeyr wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: I have castes as follows, please let me know of any errors: Alpha: Goethe Beta: Billy Pilgrim Gamma: j, OscarMeyr, Pavitra, Taral, woggle, Wooble Delta: cmealerjr, Murphy Epsilon: BobTHJ, comex, coppro, Craig,

DIS: Re: BUS: PNP Voting

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
The PerlNomic Partnership wrote: 6155 FOR Ineffective due to caste.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I deputise for the Scorekeepor to award myself 15 + 15i points. For which contest? -- Taral tar...@gmail.com Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2404 judged FALSE by Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: If the contestmaster did not, in fact, perform the contract-defined duties of the contest in a timely manner, the Scorekeepor has no duties whatsoever with respect to that contest under R2234; e is under no obligation to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Taral tar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I deputise for the Scorekeepor to award myself 15 + 15i points. For which contest? AAA, the only contest for which I was the Contestmaster for at least 16

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I intend to deputise for the Scorekeepor to award contestmasters for February. I deputise for the Scorekeepor to award myself 15 + 15i points. I'll leave the question

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Fails; the AAA wasn't a contest. Damn, I suppose the recordkeepors of rules-defined assets no longer CAN generally create them (except by self-ratification, of course).

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= At some point, we have to stop reminding people about CFJ 1460 and just hand out boots to the head. (My apologies if this is meant to be a non-public communication with someone who has the key). -Goethe

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Sgeo
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= What's with the strange character at the end of the subject?

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Sgeo
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= What's with the strange character at the end of the subject? Nevermind.

DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Charles Walker
I am proud to announce the rebirth of InterNomic II. It is hosted at http://internomic2.wikidot.com/ and includes a fully functioning set of forums. (The groups 'General' and 'Off-topic' under 'General' in the forums allow for anonymous and non-member posts if you want to try it out without

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Warrigal
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= For the benefit of Murphy and/or anyone else who's interested: ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo Hello, world! ih...@normish:~$ echo

Re: DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Warrigal
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: We should so join this, right? I imagine it would be similar if Agora and B simply joined each other, or at least if B joined Agora. I believe that BlogNomic will not join. --Warrigal

Re: DIS: InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/19 Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: We should so join this, right? I imagine it would be similar if Agora and B simply joined each other, or at least if B joined Agora. I believe that BlogNomic will not

DIS: Re: [s-d] InterNomic II

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Charles Walker charles.w.wal...@googlemail.com: I am proud to announce the rebirth of InterNomic II. It is hosted at http://internomic2.wikidot.com/ and includes a fully functioning set of forums. (The groups 'General' and 'Off-topic' under 'General' in the forums allow for anonymous

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= I Object. You can't object to the creation of a CFJ.

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: Caller:                                 ehird Judge:                                  Wooble Judgement:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: Mu.  CFJ 1580 establishes that BASE64 messages are not valid; CFJ1741 clarified that a MIME message using BASE64 is valid, but the message in this case does not specify a MIME type and players can not be expected to translate gibberish into

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/3/19 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Sean Hunt
Geoffrey Spear wrote: Damn, I suppose the recordkeepors of rules-defined assets no longer CAN generally create them (except by self-ratification, of course). CFJ 2403 establishes that Taral had (and, for that matter, still has) the ability to award points to you, and since the only mechanism

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread comex
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo Hello, world! ih...@normish:~$ echo 'Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0=' | base64 -d; echo CFJ: {This CFJ exists.} ih...@normish:~$ Gratuitous arguments: I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2422 == CFJ 2422 == This CFJ exists. Mu. CFJ 1580 establishes that BASE64

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/19 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: I thought the rules contained an English-centric clause at the time, but http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2005-December/002501.html (the last SLR before CFJ 1580) says otherwise.  Accordingly, I'll remove this latest

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: The recent Spanish/Unicode incidents, IMO, provide strong evidence that this precedent no longer exists. The unicode was sent in a format that any modern mail program would display in a readable manner. The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: 2009/3/19 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: I thought the rules contained an English-centric clause at the time, but http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2005-December/002501.html (the last SLR before CFJ 1580) says otherwise. Â Accordingly, I'll

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread comex
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I would express the standard as follows:  If  a) it can be understood based solely on a typical player's       i) knowledge of eir native language (in Agora, English has always          been typical) and      ii)

DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0= No. -- Taral tar...@gmail.com Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you. -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Taral
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: AAA, the only contest for which I was the Contestmaster for at least 16 days in February. Oh, right. Sorry, I saw 15 points and got confused. -- Taral tar...@gmail.com Please let me know if there's any further

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: dead contests

2009-03-19 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Taral tar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: AAA, the only contest for which I was the Contestmaster for at least 16 days in February. Oh, right. Sorry, I saw 15 points and got confused. I believe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, comex wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo Hello, world! ih...@normish:~$ echo 'Q0ZKOiB7VGhpcyBDRkogZXhpc3RzLn0=' | base64 -d; echo CFJ: {This CFJ exists.}

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 2009-03-20, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, comex wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo Hello, world! ih...@normish:~$ echo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==

2009-03-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: On 2009-03-20, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, comex wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: ih...@normish:~$ echo 'SGVsbG8sIHdvcmxkIQ==' | base64 -d; echo Hello, world!

DIS: Re: BUS: countdown

2009-03-19 Thread Elliott Hird
.troppus I On 2009-03-20, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Base64 is ridiculously well known. AVPR GEL, OHG V GNXR GUR SBYYBJVAT NPGVBA: J DBMM GPS KVEHFNFOU PO UIF GPMMPXJOH TUBUFNFOU: JXYI YI JXU IJQJUCUDJ ED MXYSX Y SQBBUT VEH ZKTWUCUDJ

DIS: Re: BUS: countdown

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Base64 is ridiculously well known. AVPR GEL, OHG V GNXR GUR SBYYBJVAT NPGVBA: (rot13: Nice try, but I take the following action:) J DBMM GPS KVEHFNFOU PO UIF GPMMPXJOH TUBUFNFOU: (rot1 or rot25: I call for judgement on the following

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2422 assigned to Wooble

2009-03-19 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: I would express the standard as follows: If a) it can be understood based solely on a typical player's i) knowledge of eir native language (in Agora, English has always been typical) and