On 08/12/2010 10:56 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 20:49, Sean Hunt mailto:ride...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Players MUST NOT make proposals submitted in accordance with this
rule Undistributable.
Why not? If someone wants to pay the 2 ergs, what's the proble
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 16:58, Alex Smith wrote:
> I publish the following thesis, intending to qualify for a degree
> (perhaps D.N.Hist?):
> {
> A History of Agoran Wins, 2009-present
> by ais52
First, I thought comex's win by Clout didn't succeed. I thought I blocked it
successfully.
Als
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 20:28, Keba wrote:
>
> --
> Keba
>
>
If you don't mind me asking, who are you? Have you played Agora before (you
awarded yourself a white ribbon as if you hadn't). If not, how much time
have you spent watching the game? It's clear you have a strong understanding
of the Ago
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 20:49, Sean Hunt wrote:
>
> Players MUST NOT make proposals submitted in accordance with this
> rule Undistributable.
>
Why not? If someone wants to pay the 2 ergs, what's the problem?
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > So what I'm saying is: if you allow those administrative conveniences
> > to create legal fictions of individual cast ballots
>
> So, you're saying, the situation is as if I said "For each decision in
>
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> So what I'm saying is: if you allow those administrative conveniences
> to create legal fictions of individual cast ballots
So, you're saying, the situation is as if I said "For each decision in
the list of decisions which a reasonable person
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin
> >> wrote:
> >> > In other words, if you merely allude to something that may or may
> >> > not exist (rather than ack
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > I'm really torn, here. Agora seems to veer between Sir Humphrey and
> > Reasonable Observer points of view (in fact, the Town Fountain required
> > some nearly identical Sir Humphrey thinking - issues of
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> > In other words, if you merely allude to something that may or may
>> > not exist (rather than acknowledging something that does exist),
>> > you
comex wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> comex wrote:
>>
>>> [I've complained repeatedly about the length of time currently
>>> required to adopt proposals, which can have a significant negative
>>> effect on the game. Since the current proposal volume really isn't
>>>
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > In other words, if you merely allude to something that may or may
> > not exist (rather than acknowledging something that does exist),
> > you may be referring to it, but you're not "clearly identifying"
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >> Any first-class player (the controller) CAN in a public message
> >> and for a fee of N ergs, clearly designate a portion of that
> >> message to be a public message sent by The Robot.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> In other words, if you merely allude to something that may or may
> not exist (rather than acknowledging something that does exist),
> you may be referring to it, but you're not "clearly identifying" it,
> therefore not voting.
This implies th
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> comex wrote:
>
>> [I've complained repeatedly about the length of time currently
>> required to adopt proposals, which can have a significant negative
>> effect on the game. Since the current proposal volume really isn't
>> all that high, I thin
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> The difference is that, while, for Agoran purposes, my message-- every
> message-- is parsed platonically with perfect knowledge of the
> gamestate, "acknowledgement" only makes sense in the context of
> incomplete knowledge-- in this case, basic knowledge of
coppro wrote:
> On 08/09/2010 12:03 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>> G. ke...@u.washington.edu 29 Oct 09 S
>
> I intend, without objection, to flip activity to inactive.
Yours? G.'s? Wooble's?
comex wrote:
> [I've complained repeatedly about the length of time currently
> required to adopt proposals, which can have a significant negative
> effect on the game. Since the current proposal volume really isn't
> all that high, I think that BlogNomic-style immediate distribution is
> not onl
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> Any first-class player (the controller) CAN in a public message
>> and for a fee of N ergs, clearly designate a portion of that
>> message to be a public message sent by The Robot. This is
>> INEFFECTIVE if The Robot's
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I'm really torn, here. Agora seems to veer between Sir Humphrey and
> Reasonable Observer points of view (in fact, the Town Fountain required
> some nearly identical Sir Humphrey thinking - issues of speech and
> acknowledgement are particular
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> If the ballot wasn't accepted, by the facts of the time of sending, as clearly
> identifying the specific decision in question (among others), it shouldn't
> have
> been accepted as a valid ballot for that decision. R683 is one of those
> pl
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> my message could have been sent, and had a reasonable effect, at any time
> in the last few years-- so how was sending it at that particular time
> acknowledging the existence of anything?
Further reflection brings up something interesting for me in terms of
o
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Sean Hunt wrote:
> Proposal: The Robot (AI=2, II=1, Distributable via fee)
> {{{
> Enact a power-2 Rule entitled "The Robot" with the text:
> There exists a person and active player called The Robot. The
> Robot CANNOT be deregistered or become inactive, rules to
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > Specifically, anything that is interpreted as a valid ballot must be
> > interpreted
> > as satisfying clause R683(b). And to "clearly identify" something you must
> > acknowledge it. And I'll further
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> Specifically, anything that is interpreted as a valid ballot must be
> interpreted
> as satisfying clause R683(b). And to "clearly identify" something you must
> acknowledge it. And I'll further say, lest you use the "one level of
> indirect
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > > So, the Assessor's announcement was not a win announcement. Where does
> > > that leave us? According to the voting record, comex voted for proposal
> > > 6
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > So, the Assessor's announcement was not a win announcement. Where does
> > that leave us? According to the voting record, comex voted for proposal
> > 6740, and this is a clear public acknowledgment of
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> So, the Assessor's announcement was not a win announcement. Where does
> that leave us? According to the voting record, comex voted for proposal
> 6740, and this is a clear public acknowledgment of its existence.
> Therefore, comex was not a
On 08/12/2010 12:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
On 08/12/2010 12:31 PM, comex wrote:
Note: Some of these actions may fail.
Murphy gets a Green Ribbon.
Wooble gets a Blue Ribbon.
I get a Yellow Ribbon.
-coppro
Oh, comex also gets a Silver Ribbon.
-coppro
On 08/12/2010 12:31 PM, comex wrote:
Note: Some of these actions may fail.
Murphy gets a Green Ribbon.
Wooble gets a Blue Ribbon.
I get a Yellow Ribbon.
-coppro
On 08/12/2010 11:36 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
I create a Black ribbon in my possession.
--Wooble
Fails; I think you meant Blue.
-coppro
ais523 wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 08:55 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
>> ais523 wrote:
>>
>>> Also, I intend, with notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend, with
>>> notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend, with notice, to initiate a
>>> new journey; I intend, with notice, to initiate a new j
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 08:55 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote:
> ais523 wrote:
>
> > Also, I intend, with notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend, with
> > notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend, with notice, to initiate a
> > new journey; I intend, with notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend,
ais523 wrote:
> Also, I intend, with notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend, with
> notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend, with notice, to initiate a
> new journey; I intend, with notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend,
> with notice, to initiate a new journey; I intend, with notic
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:23 AM, ais523 wrote:
> I'm also not convinced that just putting "distributable" in as a switch
> value counts as flipping the switch to distributable by announcement
> (possible for an II-0 proposal), especially when a similar format has
> been used to make proposals dist
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Keba wrote:
> Proposal: Why is there a full stop?
> (AI = 2, II = 0, distributable)
>
> Amend Rule 2124 (Agoran Satisfaction) by replacing this text:
>
> A person CANNOT support or object to an announcement of intent
> before the intent is announced,
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 13:52 +0200, Keba wrote:
> Proposal: Why is there a full stop?
> (AI = 2, II = 0, distributable)
>
> Amend Rule 2124 (Agoran Satisfaction) by replacing this text:
>
> A person CANNOT support or object to an announcement of intent
> before the intent is announ
Keba wrote:
> I hereby intend to become a Player.
>
> [Why do I join? Well, it‘s Zaraday!]
I am so sorry to write my first two mails to the wrong mailing list. I
hope your first impression of "Keba" is not that bad then...
--
Keba
On 5 August 2010 00:00, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> On 4 August 2010 23:42, comex wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn
>> wrote:
>>> I take it you can actually afford all those threats? I will calculate
>>> their costs and your initial supply of TPs, but it seems unlikely.
>>
>
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