Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2012-08-14 Thread Pavitra
On 08/13/2012 10:33 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: FKA441344 wrote: I submit a proposal with title {No Zero Length Reports}, adoption index 3, and text Create a new rule with title No News Is Some News and this text: If the rules define a report as including a list, then while that

DIS: Re: BUS: Fix

2012-08-14 Thread omd
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: The rest of this rule notwithstanding, a promise CANNOT be cashed, directly or indirectly, as a part of the outcome of cashing that same promise. What would this solve? The promise's text could include

DIS: Re: BUS: Fix

2012-08-14 Thread omd
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: CFJ: { I can cash a promise named A Million Bucks. } For completeness, since this is phrased like a turtle, any reason you think this should be UNDECIDABLE as opposed to UNDETERMINED?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fix

2012-08-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, omd wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: The rest of this rule notwithstanding, a promise CANNOT be cashed, directly or indirectly, as a part of the outcome of cashing that same promise. What would this solve?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fix

2012-08-14 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 09:56 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: That's why I didn't propose a fix when ais523 and I tried this. I think the solutions that work are: (1) Forbidding any promise from cashing any other promise (breaks basic functionality of allowing promises to be general currencies,

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2012-08-14 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 15:04 -0700, omd wrote: Proposal: Lost and Found (AI=2) Amend Rule 2166 (Assets) by replacing: any player CAN transfer or destroy it without objection. with: any player CAN transfer it to emself by announcement. Amend Rule 1504 (Criminal Cases) by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2012-08-14 Thread omd
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Why? Because it's silly.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2012-08-14 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 15:20 -0700, omd wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Why? Because it's silly. At least the FINE section was to make it possible to fine people assets that they couldn't destroy but could transfer (as, for instance, might

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2012-08-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012, omd wrote: any player CAN transfer it to emself by announcement. [snip] either destroy this amount of eir asset or transfer it to the Lost and Found Department. with: destroy that amount of eir asset. Aw, I wanted to play with Free Parking.

DIS: A blatant attempt at blackmail

2012-08-14 Thread omd
H. Ambassador-At-Large ais523, it has come to my attention (because I planned it) that someone has falsely claimed to a nomic (that I started ten minutes ago) to be an ambassador of Agora. (Although the nomic's rules[1] do not attempt to define how to contact it, since such a definition might not

Re: DIS: A blatant attempt at blackmail

2012-08-14 Thread omd
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:04 PM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: H. Ambassador-At-Large ais523, it has come to my attention (because I planned it) that someone has falsely claimed to a nomic (that I started ten minutes ago) to be an ambassador of Agora. (Although the nomic's rules[1] do not

Re: DIS: A blatant attempt at blackmail

2012-08-14 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 20:59 -0700, omd wrote: Clarification: I forgot to state that the person who made the false claim is the other player of Existential Nomic, so e's also the one that has to be informed. This message contains the ISIDTID fallacy… -- ais523

Re: DIS: A blatant attempt at blackmail

2012-08-14 Thread ais523
On Wed, 2012-08-15 at 05:06 +0100, ais523 wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 20:59 -0700, omd wrote: Clarification: I forgot to state that the person who made the false claim is the other player of Existential Nomic, so e's also the one that has to be informed. This message contains the

Re: DIS: A blatant attempt at blackmail

2012-08-14 Thread omd
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Actually, thinking about this, I think it's impossible under the current rules for anyone to inform a nomic (including Agora) of anything, because the rules don't define a mechanism for doing so, and nomics are legal

Re: DIS: A blatant attempt at blackmail

2012-08-14 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2012-08-14 at 22:41 -0700, omd wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Actually, thinking about this, I think it's impossible under the current rules for anyone to inform a nomic (including Agora) of anything, because the rules don't define