I would if i'm the speaker
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 22:14 Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I presume then that you wouldn't object to a "Make G. the Speaker"
> proposal?
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:46 PM Quazie wrote:
>
>> Cuz wins shouldn't be that easy, wi
I presume then that you wouldn't object to a "Make G. the Speaker" proposal?
-Aris
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:46 PM Quazie wrote:
> Cuz wins shouldn't be that easy, wins by proposal are only interesting if
> you've broken voting and scammed a win.
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 21:42 Aris Merchant <
Cuz wins shouldn't be that easy, wins by proposal are only interesting if
you've broken voting and scammed a win.
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 21:42 Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why would you vote against? Other than the extra rule?
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
Why would you vote against? Other than the extra rule?
-Aris
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:30 PM Quazie wrote:
> You don't need anything but 'g wins the game' for it to work - and the
> rule itself isn't interesting, so even though I'd vote against it anyways,
> I'd vote extra against it because th
You don't need anything but 'g wins the game' for it to work - and the rule
itself isn't interesting, so even though I'd vote against it anyways, I'd
vote extra against it because the rule is totally unnecessary - proposals
can already do whatever they want.
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 21:21 Aris Me
Correction: one card a month.
-Aris
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:33 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
> Executive order: The PM has several powers including the ability to
> give one card a week, for any and no reason.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> wrote:
>> How do you c
Comments appreciated on the following. I'll remove the last paragraph
if everyone agrees it's not needed. Does anyone object to giving G.
the win?
-Aris
Title: All hail the Speaker!
Adoption index: 1.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors:
Enact a new rule, entitled "Victory by Proposal", Power = 1.0:
If a
First, yes pls give me a win - Kicking myself for missing apathy :).
In the past, I've personally been a very "political" player, by that I mean into
gaming political systems - checks and balances, proposal procedure, ministerial
positions with different powers that make for good combos, interes
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Nic Evans wrote:
> On 09/13/17 20:55, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> > Without meaning to take away from the sentiment expressed in any way
> > or anyone's right to express it, this little bit of win uncertainty is now
> > *really*
> > propagating into the game state. When VJ Rad
Works the same imo. Voting them in because they're wanted or voting them
out because they're not wanted gives similar result I believe, it's just a
matter of adding democracy into the mix.
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:20 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe add impe
That can be cool too. Although if people dereg each time I may win in
future circumstances (or someone else they may disagree enough with), I
suggest amending the Speaker position to an elected office.
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:09 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> O
Maybe add impeachment proceedings? That seems generally advisable,
past this specific occasion.
-Aris
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> That can be cool too. Although if people dereg each time I may win in future
> circumstances (or someone else they may disagree enough with)
If my history as BN Emperor works as a "Curriculum Vitae" for Speaker, I've
actually never veto'd something aside from self-killing my own proposals
with style (self-killing is a often used mechanic on BN) or veto'd upon
request, for example, clearing out old proposals from previous dynasties.
Tha
Oh dear. I recommend we install a new speaker by proposal. How about
G.? We don't even have to give em a win, although we could if people
wanted to do that.
-Aris
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Nic Evans wrote:
> On 09/13/17 16:58, VJ Rada wrote:
>> Because we currently have no speaker if Cudd
On 09/13/17 20:55, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> Without meaning to take away from the sentiment expressed in any way
> or anyone's right to express it, this little bit of win uncertainty is now
> *really*
> propagating into the game state. When VJ Rada made this appointment attempt,
> I almost CFJd o
Without meaning to take away from the sentiment expressed in any way
or anyone's right to express it, this little bit of win uncertainty is now
*really*
propagating into the game state. When VJ Rada made this appointment attempt,
I almost CFJd on whether a conditional built on a conditional bui
honorabu sudoku
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:33 AM, VJ Rada wrote:
> Executive order: The PM has several powers including the ability to
> give one card a week, for any and no reason.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> wrote:
> > How do you card yourself?
> > -
It is possible for em to do so via prime minister - but I'm uncertain if
this worked as e didn't indicate as such
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 18:17 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus <
p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> How do you card yourself?
>
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>
Executive order: The PM has several powers including the ability to
give one card a week, for any and no reason.
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
wrote:
> How do you card yourself?
>
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>
>
I vote for myself for the Registrar and endorse the incumbent in all other
elections.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Quazie wrote:
>
> In all elections opened in the quoted message I vote [Present]
>
> In all elections
How do you card yourself?
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 5:58 PM, VJ Rada wrote:
>
> Because we currently have no speaker if Cuddlebeam was not the
> speaker, and because e is in both sets of possible recent winners, I
> appoint C
Accepted, although that does not self-ratify I don't think.
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Josh T wrote:
> CoE: I don't think I've held my office since August.
>
> 天火狐
>
> On 13 September 2017 at 19:52, VJ Rada wrote:
>>
>> I publish the following ADoP weekly report.
>> Informal Measures=
>I award myself a Platinum Ribbon - cuz I think I'm the speaker. BOOM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlWpE-9TH1s&feature=youtu.be&t=56s
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:18 AM, Quazie wrote:
> I award myself a Platinum Ribbon - cuz I think I'm the speaker. BOOM.
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 16:17 Cu
>Recent messages
Oh snap lol. Oh well, at least in one timeline I might be Emp+Speaker.
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know mine is slightly overdue, but I think I'll be able to get it done
> today.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2
I know mine is slightly overdue, but I think I'll be able to get it done today.
-Aris
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> Cuddlebeam certainly *wasn't* in the first set of winners, because e
> wasn't a player at the time of Apathy.
>
> [only a few more hours until I can re-
Cuddlebeam certainly *wasn't* in the first set of winners, because e
wasn't a player at the time of Apathy.
[only a few more hours until I can re-assign the darn CFJs...]
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Quazie wrote:
> There exists a possibility that Cuddlebeam didn't win the 2nd time (though I
> think
There exists a possibility that Cuddlebeam didn't win the 2nd time (though
I think he did) and in that case I'm speaker as I would've deputized for PM
and became it, and this failed - just to make matters confusing.
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:58 PM VJ Rada wrote:
> Because we currently have no sp
As the prime minister you can card anyone for any reason
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 14:10 VJ Rada wrote:
> I apologise for pointing the finger at you. I expected a green card,
> and I also apologise for taking advantage of your yellow card to win
> office. I'm sorry for trying to take full control o
On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
Sorry I was wondering whether to use it for elections or just for
reports. I pledge to do what Orjan said.
Thank you.
Greetings,
Ørjan.
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote:
Title: Make Your Home Shine
Author: o
Co-authors: CuddleBeam
AI: 1.7
For the purposes of clarity, no existing pledge is intended to carry
over into this system, and this proposal does not imply the creation of
any assets corresponding to existing pled
I concur.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
>
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
>
I initiate an election for the office of Agronomist, as no election for
this office has happened in the
I apologise for pointing the finger at you. I expected a green card,
and I also apologise for taking advantage of your yellow card to win
office. I'm sorry for trying to take full control of you without
notifying you. I'm sorry that I didn't apologise earlier: I
misinterpreted your tone in comments
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote:
As a suggestion, it might be good to add that there is a Newbie Funding
reserve, something like this?:
The Newbie Funding Reserve are the shinies that are contained within
Agora's balance level of 0 and 50.
Agora cannot make any transfer to grant shinies
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
I initiate an election for the office of Agronomist, as no election for this office
has happened in the last 90 days (r. 2145). I stand for >>election for this
office, but if a player who has no offices would like the job, I would prefer that
Agorans vote f
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
I retract my recent CoE. The latest secretary's report is NOT a tissue
of lies. Carry on.
As far as I can tell, there is still no general allowance for retracting
actions.
Greegins,
Ørjan.
Proto: Rename Agora to Agor
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Kerim Aydin
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Nic Evans wrote:
> > On 09/13/17 15:21, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Nic Evans wrote:
> > >>>player CAN, by announcement, create a Stamp with Agora as the
> Crea
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Nic Evans wrote:
> On 09/13/17 15:21, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Nic Evans wrote:
> >>>player CAN, by announcement, create a Stamp with Agora as the Creater
> > "Creator" is actually a correct word in this case!
>
> I'm aware, and avoided it so it di
On 09/13/17 15:21, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Nic Evans wrote:
>>>player CAN, by announcement, create a Stamp with Agora as the Creater
> "Creator" is actually a correct word in this case!
I'm aware, and avoided it so it didn't look like an office title.
>
> I'd put "2 stam
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Nic Evans wrote:
> >player CAN, by announcement, create a Stamp with Agora as the Creater
"Creator" is actually a correct word in this case!
I'd put "2 stamps" rather than 1 as the welcome package. = 4 proposals, 1
per week when you first join. Also gives you options
Stamp income instead of shinies is actually a pretty good idea. I wonder if
Stamps become the de facto coin instead of shinies, though, although that
might actually be a good thing if a shiny monopoly ever happens (disregard
shinies, do business with Stamps instead so that the game can continue
wit
On a related note for thematics, the Shogun was a warlord who was in power
because of military-into-political might, not really because of honor or
anything. The "formal" ruler was the Emperor but he kinda didn't do
anything. The Shogun was the real person in control.
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:58
Japanese as a general rule doesn't distinguish between singular and plural,
and English tends to keep the original language's plurals. It's one piece
of sushi, two pieces of sushi etc.; one samurai, two samurai, etc.
I'd probably pick eta because it's historical and short. We can pretend
people ar
Thanks! If you were picking one, which would you pick? (And what's the
singular
version of that, does it match "is a Samurai" as both singular and plural)
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Josh T wrote:
> The Japanese term for a (western) serf is *noudo*, literally meaning farm
> servant. If you want som
The Karmaster [Or whoever tracks these switches] Should be able to prune
from the top/bottom if: Total karma abs([Positive - Negative]) Exceeds some
threshold - that way you don't need a proposal to fix it later.
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:56 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> Thought about that a bit.
Sorry - Karmastor
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:58 PM Quazie wrote:
> The Karmaster [Or whoever tracks these switches] Should be able to prune
> from the top/bottom if: Total karma abs([Positive - Negative]) Exceeds some
> threshold - that way you don't need a proposal to fix it later.
>
> On Wed,
Thought about that a bit... technically it's always 0 sum among *persons*, to
have
an average go that high you'd need a lot of low-karma players to deregister. I
think
that's a case of "let's re-center by proposal if it proved later that we need
to".
I also thought about linking Samurai, etc
Not optional, IMO.
If your primary goal is to be negative about someone, you have to find someone
other
than yourself to be positive about.
If your primary goal is to be positive, you can (1) donate it from yourself, and
feel good about it, or (2) if there's some non-participant players hangin
I suggest Karma rubber-banding of some sort so that Karma just doesn't
continuously drift upwards. Otherwise we may have for example:
[Current Date]: Newcomer arrives with 0 Karma, General populace has an
average of 20 Karma.
[Current Date + 2 months]: Newcomer arrives with 0 Karma, General popula
The Japanese term for a (western) serf is *noudo*, literally meaning farm
servant. If you want something from the historical Japanese caste system,
since they took after Confucian ideas, peasant was was actually the highest
commoner class (above craftsmen and merchants); the outcasts of the
Japanes
What if I don't like anyone? Can i Honor myself? Can 2) or 3) be optinal?
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:38 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > - Any player with a karma of -5 or less is a (Japanese term for
> serf?).
>
> Just as an addendum, if 天火狐 or any
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> - Any player with a karma of -5 or less is a (Japanese term for serf?).
Just as an addendum, if 天火狐 or anyone with better knowledge of Japanese
feudal/cultural terms than me wants to suggest flavor improvements (in English
alphabet please), I'd gra
Worked well for me too
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Josh T wrote:
> I mostly didn't expect that my editor uses different sized tabs compared
> to my client after it gets sent. I'll need to change to space-tabulated
> manual spacing for next issue.
>
> @Aris Thank you.
>
> 天火狐
>
> On 13 Septe
I like this.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
>
> [Talked about several times recently, but inspired by Quazie's apology - we
> need a
> formal way to express approval/disapproval short of deregist
No, that isn’t my intent. My main intent is to ensure that Agora is never left
without the money needed to transact normal business.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 12:14 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>
> As a suggestion, it might be goo
[Talked about several times recently, but inspired by Quazie's apology - we
need a
formal way to express approval/disapproval short of deregistration and crimes,
IMO].
Proposal draft
Create the following Rule, Karma:
Karma is a person switch tracked by the Herald, with a default of 0
Why?
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote:
>
> I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST any proposal that
> amends rules by providing new text in full unless the text of the rule is
> nearly
I like this.
Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Nic Evans wrote:
>
> Here's my take on a basic income. Note that it's a form of guaranteed,
> rather than universal, income in the sense that it only brings you up
> to an appro
I'll do a more thorough response when I'm off work, but please don't pend this
as is. It's a good idea and I want it to function when it passes.
Have a look at my explanation of the problems with "increasing" and
"decreasing" balances in response to Shiny Weather.
-o
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:28
On 09/13/17 14:01, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> So some thoughts then:
>
> - Do away with AP, but just allow 1 free CFJ/week for everyone?
>
> - I think "new" players should get an extra bonus so they can jump in, with
> the
> understanding that "once that first stake is gone, you'll be operating on
I mostly didn't expect that my editor uses different sized tabs compared to
my client after it gets sent. I'll need to change to space-tabulated manual
spacing for next issue.
@Aris Thank you.
天火狐
On 13 September 2017 at 15:03, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Josh T wrote:
> > I
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Josh T wrote:
> I do apologize if the formatting is wonky, there are some teething issues at
> present
> and I hope to get it resolved by next week.
Format looked perfect to me! (or if not "perfect", very readable). +1 like
overall.
So some thoughts then:
- Do away with AP, but just allow 1 free CFJ/week for everyone?
- I think "new" players should get an extra bonus so they can jump in, with the
understanding that "once that first stake is gone, you'll be operating on a much
lower level." My thought is to give them each
On Wed, 13 Sep 2017, Quazie wrote:
> then having the FUCKING GAUL to ensure I would have to apologize for it.
Asterix doesn't do that kind of thing. It's a family comic.
On 09/13/17 13:38, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> Mechanism aside (which looks generally fine), how many (proposals+CFJs) do you
> think a "casual" (non-office holding) player should be permitted to perform
> regularly? This is 2 total per month if the Floating Value is constant, plus
> a person is scre
Mechanism aside (which looks generally fine), how many (proposals+CFJs) do you
think a "casual" (non-office holding) player should be permitted to perform
regularly? This is 2 total per month if the Floating Value is constant, plus
a person is screwed if the beginning of the month falls on a low
On 09/13/17 13:30, Gaelan Steele wrote:
> I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST any proposal that
> amends rules by providing new text in full unless the text of the rule is
> nearly entirely changed.
>
> Gaelan
Unfortunately I can't predict what R2445's text will be until I
If only there was a currently pended proposal disincentivising stockpiling
shinies.
Gaelan
> On Sep 13, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>
> I enjoy the basic idea but Im very much against removing Action Points
> because of how it guarantees gameplay - you've got two CFJs/Proposals per
I enjoy the basic idea but Im very much against removing Action Points
because of how it guarantees gameplay - you've got two CFJs/Proposals per
week, and if you dont spend those during the week, you lose them forever,
so it's better to use them. That results in people being inclined to use
them ea
Is this a tautology for any restricted action?
"Unless the Rules allow the gamestate to change by method X, the gamestate
CANNOT change by X"
Also, as per recent conversation, is "time passing" or "a time limit expiring"
external
or internal?
Maybe the big problem for me with this is I'm tr
{{{ Except where the rules or other documents given influence by the rules
explicitly depend on external influences, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the gamestate to
change except via a public message. }}}
Notes:
- catch-all exception to avoid breaking things
- “other documents” refers to promises, contra
On Sep 12, 2017 10:00 PM, "Owen Jacobson" wrote:
> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Nic Evans wrote:
>
> I resolve the decision(s) to adopt proposal(s) 78572-7875 as below.
>
>
>
> [This notice resolves the Agoran decisions of
Rule changes have to be sequential. Ossification aside, you need both
Instrument definitions and some kind of combination of r105/106 or the
Proposal stops functioning mid-way. I'm not sure there's a repeal order that
wouldn't leave at least one rule as a broken remnant.
(Assuming there was a
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