DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 6:20 AM Aris Merchant via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:28 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On 4/25/2020 12:48 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > >>>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 6, 2020, 16:20 Aris Merchant via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I intend, with 2 support, to group-file a motion to reconsider. I agree > with the judge's verdict, but Warrigal's objections are sufficiently > significant that they deserve an response on the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Registrar] New zombie candidates

2020-05-06 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 3 May 2020 at 18:08, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 5/2/2020 4:03 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > > For each of the following players, I intend, with notice, to flip eir > > instance of the Master switch to Agora. > > * Tcbapo (last public message February 7) > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/6/2020 1:20 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:28 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 4/25/2020 12:48 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > === CFJ 3828 >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/6/2020 12:46 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On 5/6/2020 12:12 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: >> 3. Therefore, if a rule says "a player earns a coin" but does not say who, >> then Rule 217 calls on us to apply its four factors to answer the question >> of who earns the coin. > > Ok

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/6/2020 12:12 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2020, 14:36 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Is indeterminacy a concept in mathematical logic? I've never heard of it. > I think the closest mathematical equivalent is whatever term you use when you have 3 unknowns and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/6/2020 12:12 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > 3. Therefore, if a rule says "a player earns a coin" but does not say who, > then Rule 217 calls on us to apply its four factors to answer the question > of who earns the coin. Ok - I've got another set of counter-counter

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 15:12 -0400, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > 3. Therefore, if a rule says "a player earns a coin" but does not say who, > then Rule 217 calls on us to apply its four factors to answer the question > of who earns the coin. For what it's worth, I accept the argument

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 6, 2020, 14:36 Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/6/2020 10:44 AM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > > You seem to be saying that it's possible for a value to be unambiguous > > despite being indeterminate. That sounds impossible

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/6/2020 10:44 AM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote: > You seem to be saying that it's possible for a value to be unambiguous > despite being indeterminate. That sounds impossible to me; that obviously > contradicts the meaning of the word "unambiguous". Ambiguous and indeterminate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
G., you're making some interesting arguments. Here's how I see things, first of all. Let's suppose the rules say that a particular switch has two possible values, A and B. To me, there are three possible situations here. The first situation is that it is clear which value the switch has. In

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 5/6/2020 4:56 AM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2020, 01:29 Rebecca wrote: > >> Indeterminacy is different to "ambiguity". The indeterminacy here arises >> from the inability to determine the location of a certain game asset, >> rather than lack of clarity in the text of the rules of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] CFJ 3828 Assigned to G.

2020-05-06 Thread Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 6, 2020, 01:29 Rebecca via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Indeterminacy is different to "ambiguity". The indeterminacy here arises > from the inability to determine the location of a certain game asset, > rather than lack of clarity in the text of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I won the game btw

2020-05-06 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:52 PM Rebecca wrote: > > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:51 PM Rebecca wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:41 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < >> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:26 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion < >>>