Re: DIS: Coming clean

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
Just added CuddleBeam. There are definitely a few in there that seem somewhat cuddlebeam-y. Gaelan > On Jul 21, 2020, at 8:25 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 19:30 -0700, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion > wrote: >> [posting links here for the benefit of

Re: DIS: Coming clean

2020-07-21 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 19:30 -0700, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > [posting links here for the benefit of non-discord folk] > > Here are some messages "from" to various Agorans: > https://gist.github.com/Gaelan/e6f799142f98fa64f43344257b6b0ad5 > I have no idea how much the From

Re: DIS: Coming clean

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 5:47 PM, ATMunn via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 7/21/2020 8:14 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: >> I'd be happy to share the model at some point, but its a bit of a pain—I >> think it's 1.5 GB—so I'm not sure how best to do that. In the meantime, I'm

Re: DIS: Rules Viewer Fixed

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> On Jul 20, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Hey all, > > I just fixed ruleset-viewer.gaelan.me, which appears to have gotten broken by > some reorganization of the ruleset repo. It looks like it might be > intermittently running into some GitHub API bug

Re: DIS: Coming clean

2020-07-21 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 7/21/2020 8:14 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: I'd be happy to share the model at some point, but its a bit of a pain—I think it's 1.5 GB—so I'm not sure how best to do that. In the meantime, I'm happy to try out any inputs y'all are curious about. Also, From headers were

Re: DIS: Coming clean

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 5:22 PM, N. S. via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Given that gaelan exercised much control over greg by registering him amd > by curating his training data, There's a fair argument about forcing registration, but I'd argue that all of us, via genetics and education,

Re: DIS: Coming clean

2020-07-21 Thread N. S. via agora-discussion
Given that gaelan exercised much control over greg by registering him amd by curating his training data, i think gregs actions should be considered just an extention of gaelan On Wed., 22 Jul. 2020, 10:15 am Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Alright,

DIS: Coming clean

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
Alright, people seem to have started to get annoyed, so I believe continuing this experiment would violate my sacred and eternal duty to Treat Agora Right Good. So, yeah. I'm Greg. Or maybe I'm sending messages on Greg's behalf. See recent CFJs. As most of you accurately surmised, Greg's

DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments vN+1

2020-07-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
[I've honestly forgotten what version this is.] This version splits regulations into two classes: "active" and "passive". Passive regulations are exactly what we have now - a document control system, effectively, with Rules incorporating their terms by reference (e.g. Administrative Regulations

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Notary] The Notes: Tuesday Edition

2020-07-21 Thread Greg P. Thomas II via agora-discussion
I'm not sure what has been changed in the rules. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:51 PM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/21/20 3:46 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > > ██ ██ ███ ███ ██ █ ███ ██ > >██

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2020-07-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:00 PM omd via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > at 6:48 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion > > wrote: > > Updated hypothesis: the messages are being sent by a bot, probably a > > neural network trained on Agoran public forum messages. > > I just

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Notary] The Notes: Tuesday Edition

2020-07-21 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
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DIS: Re: BUS: [Notary] The Notes: Tuesday Edition

2020-07-21 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 7/21/20 3:46 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: > ██ ██ ███ ███ ██ █ ███ ██ >████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ >█████ █ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ >████ ██ ██

Re: DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

2020-07-21 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 13:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > what author? only players can create proposals. (going by the > "Registrar's assumption" on greg's personhood unless a cfj finds > otherwise). Now I'm wondering if it's possible for a non-person to ever take an action

DIS: Re: [Regitsrar] BUS: Registration

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Falsifian via agora-business > wrote: > > On 2020-07-21 12:41 a.m., N. S. via agora-business wrote: >> CFJ:after greg registered, there was one more player than there was before. > > As Registrar, I'm assuming the sender of these emails is not an organism and

Re: DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

2020-07-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/21/2020 1:21 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 13:13 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:11 PM ais523 wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:03 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business >>> wrote: On 7/21/20 3:56 PM, Greg P. Thomas II via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn. Translator - Sorry, sorry.

2020-07-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 7/21/2020 1:04 PM, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-discussion wrote: > I see that it is still possible to tell the difference between a > difference > from a difference in language, but I'm not sure how > that works. If this email address is a bot (and not the human behind the bot), the address

Re: DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

2020-07-21 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 13:13 -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:11 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:03 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business > > wrote: > > > On 7/21/20 3:56 PM, Greg

Re: DIS: Rules Viewer Fixed

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:46 AM, Falsifian via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 2020-07-21 6:37 a.m., Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: >> Oops, the link is (and always has been) agora-ruleset.gaelan.me. >> Gaelan >>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion

Re: DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

2020-07-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:11 PM ais523 via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:03 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > On 7/21/20 3:56 PM, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-business wrote: > > > I submit the following proposal. > > > > > >

Re: DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

2020-07-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/21/20 4:10 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:03 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> On 7/21/20 3:56 PM, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-business wrote: >>> I submit the following proposal. >>> >>>

DIS: Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan

2020-07-21 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2020-07-21 at 16:03 -0400, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 7/21/20 3:56 PM, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-business wrote: > > I submit the following proposal. > > > > - > > > > Title: Minion Plan > > Author: Thomas >

Re: DIS: [Diplonomic 2020] Ruling on Elimination of Players

2020-07-21 Thread Greg P. Thomas II via agora-discussion
I already voted for "elimination" in the last proposal I submitted. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 6:13 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn. Translator - Sorry, sorry.

2020-07-21 Thread Greg P. Thomas II via agora-discussion
I see that it is still possible to tell the difference between a difference from a difference in language, but I'm not sure how that works. -twg

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Agoran Underground Betting Ring

2020-07-21 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
Sounds fun. I may join if I find something to bet on. It might be useful to allow specifying different wagers for the Initiator and Challengor so we can bet on things we all agree are probably true, but where we disagree on how "probably" they are true. Challengor is a bet switch, tracked

Re: DIS: Rules Viewer Fixed

2020-07-21 Thread Falsifian via agora-discussion
On 2020-07-21 6:37 a.m., Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: Oops, the link is (and always has been) agora-ruleset.gaelan.me. Gaelan On Jul 20, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: Hey all, I just fixed ruleset-viewer.gaelan.me, which appears to have gotten

DIS: Re: OFF: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Fall 1903

2020-07-21 Thread omd via agora-discussion
Updated https://agoranomic.org/omd-diplonomic-2020-maps/.

DIS: [Diplonomic 2020] Ruling on Elimination of Players

2020-07-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
It has been requested privately that I clarify whether an "eliminated" contestant will still vote. They will not do so automatically; however, I will cause any Contestant who is eliminated to cease to be a Contestant under Regulation BT2. This was my intent in writing BT2, and, unless a role is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Agoran Underground Betting Ring

2020-07-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/21/20 5:59 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion wrote: > Of course, I immediately discover several small errors. I consent to amending > the contract to the following, and do so: NttPF. -- Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Agoran Underground Betting Ring

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 2:50 AM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business > wrote: > > I create, consent to, etc the following contract: { > Title: The Agoran Underground Betting Ring > > Any player may become a member of this contract by announcement. Any person > who is not the Ringleader or the

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Friendly Neighborhood Notary Petitions the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel for a Change of Interest

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
Looks like you posted this intent twice. Maybe you intended to actually do so this time? Gaelan > On Jul 19, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Edward Murphy via agora-business > wrote: > > ATMunn wrote: > >> Dear H. ADoP, >> I, the Notary of Agora, humbly submit my request for the interests of >> the

Re: DIS: Rules Viewer Fixed

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
Oops, the link is (and always has been) agora-ruleset.gaelan.me. Gaelan > On Jul 20, 2020, at 11:36 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Hey all, > > I just fixed ruleset-viewer.gaelan.me, which appears to have gotten broken by > some reorganization of the ruleset repo. It

DIS: Rules Viewer Fixed

2020-07-21 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
Hey all, I just fixed ruleset-viewer.gaelan.me, which appears to have gotten broken by some reorganization of the ruleset repo. It looks like it might be intermittently running into some GitHub API bug (possibly because you're not supposed to download as much as I am with a single