On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 1:20 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 1:07 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > The Archives are now CFJ 3805 compliant.
>
> After clicking on CFJ 3805 in the archives, I have to disagree.
The Archives are now CFJ 3805 compliant.
Falsifian wrote:
>> hope that the economy gets reset or something
Also sorry: I was planning to try something hyper-inflationary on my
Agoran Birthday earlier this week, to try to force the need for a
reset (e.g. pledging to give back 2/3 of coins of anyone who gave me
them) but it's been a heck o
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:55 AM James Cook via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 18:09, James Cook wrote:
> > Are we just going to let a steady stream of sufficiently dedicated
> > players claim their standard victories? I say we raise the bar a
> > little.
>
> By the way, I don't
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 2:09 AM omd wrote:
> This leaves the text as "inconsistent", and Rule 217 informs us to
> augment it by the usual factors. In this case, "game custom" clearly
> supports higher-power rules taking precedence over lower-power ones.
> So does "common sense": the ruleset as a w
For the record, I just sent the case assignment message, it tripped my
spam filter on the return so dunno if enough people will see the
assignment to make it public :)
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 11:46 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business
wrote:
>
> Notice of Honour:
> +1 Gaela
WHO KNOWS`,`OH GOD, DEFINITELY NOT`, `DON'T ASK ME`,
> > `THE ONLY REAL ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF THIS IS WISHFUL THINKING`,
> > `A TYPICAL EXAMPLE OF "I SAY I DO, THEREFORE I DO", WHICH`+
> > ` HAS PLAGUED AGORA FOR A LONG TIME`,`IF YOU SAY SO`];document.
> > querySelec
OU SAY SO`];document.
> querySelectorAll('.hist b').forEach(x=>x.innerHTML=a[Math.floor(
> Math.random()*a.length) ]) doesn’t adversely affect
> eir archive.
> }
>
> Gaelan
>
>> On Jan 31, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
>> wrote
ect eir archive.
> }
>
> (The new one’s modified to fit within 72 characters, so it shouldn’t run into
> word-wrap issues)
>
>> On Jan 31, 2020, at 2:24 AM, omd via agora-discussion
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
>> wrote:
>>> Drat kinda boring:
>>> https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3805
>>
>> The word wrapping broke the script.
>
Drat kinda boring:
https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3805
On 1/30/2020 9:37 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
> TTttPF
>
>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 9:36 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Kerim
On 1/30/2020 8:31 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 1/30/20 11:20 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
>
>> So, this is from the era of the mysql database. The mysql database actually
>> had fields like "Caller" and "Judge" as look
On 1/30/2020 7:27 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> During research for CFJ 3888, I discovered that there appears to have
> been a bug ... somewhere in the history.
>
> From the (arbitrarily selected) text of CFJ 2991 in the Github backup [0]:
>
>> ===
On 1/30/2020 5:36 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> I had an idea for making degrees more interesting. I was thinking that
> the Herald might, for instance, record twg's degree not as "A.N." (if
> it ends up being an A.N.) but as "A.N. in Devious Oratory". We could
> go back and fin
On 1/30/2020 9:23 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 9:20 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> I went back and forth on that as a possibility - I don't have a strong reason
>> so maybe a SHALL is best - the only issue being what Alexis pointed out, that
>> if we want (as
On 1/30/2020 9:16 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> Anyway, I like G.'s proposal, but why even require a reasonably
>> accurate tally for it to be self-ratifying? Just require
>> decision+outcome, and make the rest SHALL.
>
> I went back and forth on that as a possibility - I don't have a strong reason
On 1/30/2020 9:06 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 17:03, James Cook wrote:
>> Here's a somewhat different way we could do it:
>>
>> * An announcement resolving a decision doesn't need to specify
>> anything other than the decision --- not even the outcome. Tha
On 1/30/2020 9:03 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 16:55, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 10:32, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
>> wrote:
>>> Proto: "Pragmatic decisions",
On 1/30/2020 7:47 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 15:43, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> On 1/30/20 10:21 AM, James Cook wrote:
>>> Shouldn't you also say that you resolve these decisions? My
>>> understanding is that you're not publishing a report
On 1/30/2020 7:21 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 14:34, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> Draft revision, since this is complicated:
>>
>> All of these CoEs are accepted.
>>
>> Revised resolutions for 8292-8307:
>
> Shouldn't you also say that you
On 1/30/2020 3:44 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Thu., Jan. 30, 2020, 06:08 AIS523 wrote:
>> I should note, though, that "in a timely fashion" is a relatively new
>> phrasing. For a long time, the standard phrasing was "as soon as
>> possible" (which was nonetheless defined to mean "within seven day
On 1/29/2020 5:14 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> G. wrote:
>> awww - i'd seen that and my birthday is Feb 4th
>
> Same, though it sounds like it wouldn't have gone unnoticed until May
> anyway...
>
> You can still use it, though! No chance of the proposal passing before
On 1/29/2020 6:11 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 14:17, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
>
>> Having achieved a full set of 16 Ribbons, including the new Emerald
>> Ribbon, I Raise a Banner, causing me to win the game.
>>
>> -twg
>>
>
> Given that:
> a) I'm genuinely uncertain about th
awww - i'd seen that and my birthday is Feb 4th
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 4:36 PM Aris Merchant via agora-business
wrote:
>
> I submit the following proposal. *winces*
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Finite Gifting
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-authors:
>
> Amend Rule 2585, Birthday Gifts,
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:48 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> The officer was under a
> SHALL to check all transactions, but any that got missed (after a
> certain time limit) succeeded "for free".
The Rule for this was reasonably self-contained and seems similar to
what you're talking about, so figured I
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:22 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:32 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > Warrigal's proposal of pragmatic validation is an interesting one, and one
> > that I haven't really seen Agora use before if memory serves. The one I'm
> > famili
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:32 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Warrigal's proposal of pragmatic validation is an interesting one, and one
> that I haven't really seen Agora use before if memory serves. The one I'm
> familiar with is having actions be POSSIBLE but ILLEGAL where they wou
On 1/29/2020 11:17 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> Having achieved a full set of 16 Ribbons, including the new Emerald
> Ribbon, I Raise a Banner, causing me to win the game.
Congratulations!!
On 1/29/2020 9:25 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> (then again, there's also this:)
>
>> Judgments in Nomic are not bound by rules of precedent, for that would
>> require a daunting amount of record-keeping for each game.
Well, e's not wrong...
On 1/29/2020 9:32 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On 1/29/2020 9:25 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
>> (then again, there's also this:)
>>
>>> Judgments in Nomic are not bound by rules of precedent, for that would
>>> require a daunting amount of record-keeping for each game.
>
>
On 1/29/2020 2:21 AM, omd via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:36 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> I found a random old mbox in a personal archive a while back, that had
>> Agoran emails from Jun - Aug 2001 (probably from a tempora
On 1/28/2020 8:16 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 1/28/20 11:12 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 7:47 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
>> wrote:
>>> I earn 5 coins for assessing a proposal.
>> You can't, because P8295 made it so the ADoP has to do t
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:50 PM James Cook wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 15:46, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > Also relevant: CFJs 3411-3412.
>
> I was hesitent to raise this morbid concern, but now that the subject
> has been broached, are dead former players persons? R86
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:26 PM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
>
> omd wrote:
> > However, I vaguely remember having proposed this in the past, and
> > someone objecting to it. But I can't find the thread; searching for
> > "scrapers", only this thread comes up. I could be misremembering.
>
> Is this it?
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 9:26 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 12:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:24 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-official
> > wrote:
> > > NOW KNOW YOU that w
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:24 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-official
wrote:
> NOW KNOW YOU that we, by the Powers granted to us under Winning the
> Game, being the two thousand and forty-fourth Rule of Agora, do hereby
> bestow upon G. the Patent Title of Champion; and
Thanks! I'm curious what you thi
On 1/26/2020 12:50 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> Matthew Berlin wrote:
>> If you publish a hash of the shoe beforehand, and the entire shoe
>> afterwards for verification of the hash, you might get more takers,
>
> I know next to nothing about blackjack, but that sounds like
On 1/26/2020 8:59 AM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 at 11:40, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 1/26/2020 7:38 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> Alexis
On 1/26/2020 7:38 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> Alexis wrote:
>> I'm not sold on this, or on the precedent.
>>
>> R2125 is clear that actions can only be performed by the methods
>> *explicitly* specified. It seems to me that it closes the door to methods
>> of performing ac
On 1/25/2020 7:31 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> Thank you! Thank you! You have no idea how much easier this makes to fit in
> the authors on a proposal distribution.
>
> (Please, no one respond by being contrary and expanding their Agoran name.)
>
> -Aris
*coughs in Publius S
On 1/25/2020 1:46 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 16:42, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 19:11, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
>> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>
>>> When we last had a
On 1/25/2020 12:23 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> if anyone has any other arguments or opinions between A.N. and B.N., I
> would appreciate hearing them. If I do not, I will likely make intents for
> both B.N. and A.N. and resolve the stronger one.
I've seen too few comparisons be
On 1/25/2020 11:50 AM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 14:48, Kerim Aydin via agora-official <
> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> The below CFJ is 3794. I assign it to Alexis.
>>
>> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3794
>
>
>
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 11:52 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via
agora-discussion wrote:
> G. wrote:
> > I'm *slightly* concerned on this because I think that deputizing for
> > someone who isn't yet late is slightly rude, as the officer should be
> > given discretion on when to do stuff without being pushe
Recently it's come up about which cases are missing from the CFJ
archives. Since missing numbers are hidden on the main CFJ index
page, I thought I'd share this:
https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/archive_status2020.htm
This is a static snapshot of the tool I use to look for gaps (the li
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via
agora-discussion wrote:
> It all depends on whether "If POSSIBLE" means "If currently POSSIBLE"
> or "If POSSIBLE when the requirement was created". I don't see that it's
> 100% unambiguous, but your reading definitely wins on "common sense" a
On 1/23/2020 4:19 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> 8298 Aris, [2]2.0 Administrative Adjudication v3
>> AGAINST. Two concerns here. (1) I have no idea what "tracked along
>> with judicial cases" means in terms of practical tracking, and don't
>> think it shoul
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 2:35 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
> This is a RECOMMENDED method for resetting aspects of the game in a
> fair and equitable manner following the discovery and/or exploitation
> of unintended loopholes within the Rules
Following twg's thesis, I'm far mor
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:35 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Adding a withdrawal clause prevents the
> initiator from changing eir mind later, which is IMO generally a good thing
> as it means that people can take withdrawal at face value and not have to
> remember to object anyway.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 8:28 AM Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 11:20, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/23/2020 7:49 AM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote:
>> > Proposal: A Degree of Inefficiency (AI=3)
>> > {{{
>>
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:09 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> I think my (misleading named) “too intense” scam from February of this year
> might be relevant.
>
> The gist of that was that the rules at the time required that declarations of
> intent be conspicuous and, *independ
On 1/23/2020 8:28 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> More debatable whether:
>
> 1. intent
> 2. intent again
> 3. withdraw one intent but not the other
>
> works, but since it refers to "an announcement of intent", the intended
> interpretation is that it applies to the specific announcement, reinforced
On 1/23/2020 8:28 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 11:20, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 1/23/2020 7:49 AM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote:
>>> Proposal: A Degree of Inefficienc
On 1/23/2020 7:49 AM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote:
> Proposal: A Degree of Inefficiency (AI=3)
> {{{
> Amend Rule 2595 (Performing a Dependent Action) by inserting ", and did not
> subsequently withdraw, " immediately after "published" in the first
> paragraph.
> }}}
>
> -Alexis
>
Con
On 1/23/2020 4:40 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> I intend, with 2 days' notice, to temporarily deputise for the ADoP to
> end the uncontested election for Treasuror, thereby installing myself.
No deputisation needed if there's only 1 candidate, R2154:
> If at any point an
On 1/22/2020 8:13 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 02:11, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> Why are we reading the date-stamping to refer to the date-stamp of the
>> original message? I would think it obvious that the relevant message is the
>> one
On 1/22/2020 8:13 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 02:11, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> Why are we reading the date-stamping to refer to the date-stamp of the
>> original message? I would think it obvious that the relevant message is the
>> on
On 1/21/2020 7:54 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> On 1/21/2020 7:21 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> Well, now that the CFJs from the Troubles have been assigned, I have one
>> that I've wanted to do for a little while:
>>
>>
>> CFJ: "Coming into existence is a regulated action."
>>
Actua
On 1/21/2020 7:21 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
> Well, now that the CFJs from the Troubles have been assigned, I have one
> that I've wanted to do for a little while:
>
>
> CFJ: "Coming into existence is a regulated action."
>
Gratuitous:
In the phrase "I submit the following pro
On 1/14/2020 9:11 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote:
> On 1/12/2020 1:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> === CFJ 3792 ===
>>
>> The above-quoted message contained a valid Promotor's weekly
>> report.
>>
>> ===
On 1/21/2020 4:31 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> G. wrote:
>>> 8293 Bernie, twg 1.0 CFJ Bait
>> AGAINST. Only natural persons can register so this fails off the
>> bat unless I miss something - not particularly interesting.
>
> The first sentence yes, but no
On 1/20/2020 1:30 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> ...nd, maybe, if it please m'lud, to request that at least the
> degree intent, if not also the separate title, be delayed for a further,
> oh, say, four to five days? For purely self-serving reasons, I admit.
Since this
On 1/20/2020 7:22 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> ID: 8305
> Title: Keeping Up With the Times
[snip]
> Rename every instance of the Patent Titles "Bachelor of Nomic" and "Master
> of Nomic" accordingly.
Hmm - A patent title is just that - a legal title. The Agoran pedant
in me is
On 1/19/2020 7:09 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> The vast majority of thesis publications I’ve seen are either legal or
> historical. If anything, this is exactly the sort of thing that shouldn’t
> qualify for a J.N. IMO, it’s about public policy, not rule interpretation.
To me
On 1/19/2020 7:05 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote:
> Ahh, in this case I'll withdraw the intent for now so it can be further
> discussed. But the thinking I had was that the degree is analagous to the
> Juris Doctor conferred to law school graduates who can subsequently go into
> practic
On 1/19/2020 6:40 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
> I create the following proposal: {
> Title: Deregistration
> AI: 3
> Author: Gaelan
>
> Flip the Citizenship of the following players to Unregistered:
> - D. Margaux
> - Baron von Vaderham
> }
>
> [They’re both inactive, but active
On 1/19/2020 4:38 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 19:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>> [I'm gonna generally retire from attempting to keep things equal after
>> this,
>> others can if they like.]
>>
>
> Well, I wa
On 1/19/2020 3:29 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> Twg, can we have the same warranty (in public, to be clear) from you?
> I phrased it so that it works the same way even with your whole zombie
> thing; so you don't need to change any words at all. :) If you don't,
> I intend to vote
On 1/19/2020 3:04 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 10:40, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> Amend Rule 217, "Interpreting the Rules", by inserting "authorial
>> intent," after "past judgements,".
>>
>
> Qu
On 1/19/2020 2:57 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> The best way is to look at past examples.
>
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 17:43, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> What exactly are the expectations for theses? It's not very well
>> spe
On 1/19/2020 1:45 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote:
> Sigh. My message stated the wrong method (with notice rather than
> without objection). I withdraw the CFJ I just called.
Drat - it would have been a good one!!
I was about to send the following gratuitous:
As part of my Arbitor work
On 1/19/2020 1:36 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote:
> I sent my notice of intent to the players of Agora in two steps:
> first, through myself, and then, through agora-business in this
> message. So, I have sent it via both myself and a public forum. Since
> it was sent via a public forum,
On 1/18/2020 4:13 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 2:48 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> So this judgement actually extends the concept of physical reality quite a
>> bit, by saying "even though no rule outright forbids this
On 1/17/2020 9:33 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> Judge's Arguments for CFJs 3784 and 3785, as well as the whimsically
> quasi-existent CFJ 3785.5
This is a clever judgement, and covers a lot of the ground well, but
honestly I feel like this is missing something. R106 reads in par
On 1/17/2020 10:20 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> Gaelan wrote:
>> Yeah, not trying to insinuate that the current officers would do
>> anything. But we do occasionally have unsavory officers (as well as the
>> possibility of a cultural shift towards taking advantage of office
On 1/17/2020 9:08 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:57 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 1/16/2020 7:45 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> Create the following power 3.0 rule entitled "The Reset Button":
>
> An officer CAN, without 3 objections, pursuant to a memorandum finding it
> in the best interests of the game, issue an adjustment, which shall be
> a pub
On 1/16/2020 6:42 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 21:39, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>
> maybe argue that
> we should eliminate actions done other than by announcement
I would like to keep (and in fact use more of) the "Notice" mechanism - I
think it's convenient in
Heh. Deja vu all over again.
So this whole issue was brought up in Jan 2019, and resulted in CFJs
3693-3694. The Judge's full arguments (below) appeared only in
discussion, and there was a big thread (referenced below). The judge
of CFJ 3694 found that zombie auctions worked, but it was quite,
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1:55 PM Kerim Aydin wrote:
> some more archeology is clearly needed here.
Got it! This was decided in CFJ 3693-3694, which is one of those
missing from the cotc database.
CFJ 3694 "It is generally IMPOSSIBLE for a zombie to be transferred to
the winner of a lot in a zomb
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:16 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-business
wrote:
> > So, the question is: CAN Agora, as an autonomous entity, set a switch? I
> > don’t see any language that implies it can, but perhaps there’s an argument
> > to be made that Agora obviously is able to change its own stat
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:56 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via
agora-discussion wrote:
>
> Alexis wrote:
> > I do not think these sorts of hypothetical conditionals work, fwiw.
Another thing: if these conditionals DO work, and you don't pay,
you're still breaking the rules. As written, you have an auct
On 1/15/2020 10:16 PM, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote:
> TTttPF
>
> (Also, my subject line in the previous email was misleading—I was going to
> write a fix proposal in the same message, but decided I want to get
> confirmation that the bug is real first.)
>
> Gaelan
>
>> On Jan 15,
On 1/14/2020 9:51 AM, Alexis wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 12:36, twg wrote:
> Huh. I'm not sure of the incident you're referring to as Assessor, but
> historically the Assessor's primary prerogatives have been to resolve
> proposals out-of-order and to act first after resolution (including
>
On 1/14/2020 9:45 AM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business wrote:
> Actually, on a further look, I'm suspicious of this logic. Enough that I
> intend, with 2 support, to group-file a Motion to Reconsider this judgment
> (I will not resolve the intent if there's something I'm missing but would
> like t
On 1/13/2020 2:58 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>> You can't accurately match something that /doesn't yet exist to be
>> matched against/.
>
>
> Falsifian then said in a reply to the judgement [1]:
>
>> No objection to TRUE, but I don't think I understand this argument. If
>> the da
On 1/13/2020 10:14 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> A third option to magnify its effect, beyond decreasing the default or
> increasing the maximum, would be to increase the strength of _everyone's_
> AGAINST votes.
Also kind of defeats the purpose of a sole-person's powerup.
On 1/12/2020 8:38 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> I knew you were going to do that. I seriously considered adding a “and
> please don’t solve the problem by taking honor away from me”, but I figured
> you’d take that as encouragement. Come on, I bring back a MUD, and I don’t
> eve
On 1/12/2020 9:10 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 8:46 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> wrote:
>> Create a Power=2 Rule, "Sacrifice", with the following text:
>>
>> The Shogun CAN sacrifice eir honour by publishing a valid Notice
>> of Honour that dec
On 1/12/2020 6:00 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> We haven’t awarded Silver Quills for any year since 2015. 2019’s awards
> will be dealt with in this year’s awards month, but that leaves 2016, 2017,
> and 2018. Would anyone mind if I, as Promotor, suggested Silver Quills for
> t
On 1/12/2020 2:36 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 11:12, Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Like with [Proposal], please put/edit [CFJ] into subject lines
>> when you call a CFJ, if you think about it :).
>>
>
>
On 1/11/2020 2:55 PM, omd via agora-business wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:38 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-official
> wrote:
>> I recuse omd from CFJ 3783 (I know you put forward some preliminary
>> thoughts on the case omd, which is why I waited a bit, but it's been a
>> long time on this cas
On 1/11/2020 2:27 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> G. wrote:
>> When Jason Cobb pulled the 18K scam there was some bit of discussion that we
>> might be over coins or ready for something new there - what do people think.
>> My opinion is that the zombie system is working reason
On 1/11/2020 8:08 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
Speaking of which, did the proposal that authorized D. Margaux's victory
actually do that? The rules at the moment don't seem to allow victory by
proposal, nor are victories self-ratifying any more.
FWIW we did ratify the Scroll a
On 1/11/2020 10:53 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 13:25, Jason Cobb wrote:
>
>> I suppose. I was considering keeping them to try to bribe people, but
>> since they're pretty useless, that would be pointless. I perform the
>> following action 18 times: { If I have more than 1000
On 1/11/2020 8:54 AM, James Cook via agora-business wrote:
> I initiate an election for the office of Treasuror.
>
> This quarter is a bit busy for me. I am probably going to resign as
> Treasuror in a week or two if nobody has already taken the office. I
> plan to continue as Registrar. I might
On 1/10/2020 7:30 PM, Falsifian wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 20:25, Alexis wrote:
(and
possibly codifying an approach to "is history part of the game state").
Aris tried to do this in June with eir "Timeline Control Ordnance" [0]
which became Proposal 8195. I don't remember exactly why we vo
On 1/10/2020 6:53 PM, Falsifian wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 23:12, G. wrote:
>> We've had a couple conversations along similar lines in the last year
>> or two and people were generally positive. Specifically two ideas
>> came up: (1) making each officer the "primary judge" on disputes
>> a
Falsifian,
could you forward the below message to the PF with an "if I have not
already delivered these judgements, I do so"? I think that takes care
of any Troubles issues for assigned CFJs (now to deal with the
unassigned ones...)
-G.
-- Forwarded message -
From: James Cook
D
Gaelan wrote:
If I create the contact {Gaelan SHALL publish a Tailor’s report weekly},
does this let me issue memoranda about ribbons?
Good point - we had the same issue with R2496 Rewards - will add text to
limit that to rules-defined officer's duties. (I think Aris's last
memorandum draft
Proto: the Reset Button
#include memorandum
Create the following Rule entitled "the Reset Button":
If the rules define a public document as self-ratifying, then a
person REQUIRED to publish that document CAN ratify that document
without 3 objections, provided e includes, as
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