Re: DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions, version 2

2007-05-22 Thread Roger Hicks
1. (Technical) Automate the proposal distribution process entirely. Not likely to pass after what happened to Nomic World. What's wrong with automation? The internet is a much more stable and long-term place now then it used to be. NomicWorld has been defunct for 14-15(?) years now. A

DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions, version 2

2007-05-22 Thread Kerim Aydin
Maud wrote: How temporary should it be? Only until the current state of emergency has passed. (by temporary, I meant temporary way of killing a proposal until we fixed abortion not a temporary power). What is the real role of the Speaker? A true prize for winning the game; I'd suggest the

Re: DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions, version 2

2007-05-22 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: What's wrong with automation? It goes away when its maintainer does. It has in some cases not in fact been kept up to date. If it bypasses email, there's no reliable record of the transactions that actually occurred. I'm all in favour of automation, as a tool for officers to

Re: DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions, version 2

2007-05-22 Thread Roger Hicks
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. What you describe is more or less what I was referring to regarding manual override. For instance, I have no problem with a bot distributing Proposals automatically as long as at least one player (or more preferably a chain of command) has the ability to manually

Re: DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions, version 2

2007-05-21 Thread Zefram
Michael Slone wrote: The default time limit for a collective action is (a) fourteen days, if the action is not the adoption of a proposal; or (b) forever and a day, if the action is the adoption of a proposal. Suggest that you make (a) be the default, and then

Re: DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions, version 2

2007-05-21 Thread Michael Slone
On 5/21/07, Kerim Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple years back I floated something similar, Steve's comment was how do we keep our proposal numbering system straight, it's a substantial historical series. Not that it's a bad idea, but it's worth pondering. I think the formal

Re: DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions, version 2

2007-05-21 Thread Michael Slone
On 5/21/07, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These two don't work together. (d) only makes sense if you're applying these conditions at (or after) the end of the voting period. (e) needs to be applied at the time the vote is cast. I was hoping people wouldn't notice that they lose *all* their

DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions, version 2

2007-05-20 Thread Michael Slone
Here is a version of Generalize Dependent Actions which attempts to include the adoption of proposals under its umbrella. Rather than getting rid of the Promotor and Assessor, I allow a player to distribute a proposal on eir own if e wants and have the Promotor do it if nobody else does. There

DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions

2007-05-18 Thread Michael Slone
In this proto, I attempt to average dependent actions and actions with Agoran consent. -- Protoproposal h0138 (AI=2) Generalize Dependent Actions Amend rule 1728 (Dependent Actions) to read: A notice of intent to perform a dependent action is a document which sets out the

Re: DIS: Proto: Generalize Dependent Actions

2007-05-18 Thread Ed Murphy
Maud wrote: In this proto, I attempt to average dependent actions and actions with Agoran consent. I can't help but feel that a proto to adopt proposals with Agoran consent is right around the corner.