Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Pledges

2017-09-23 Thread Aris Merchant
Gratuitous counterarguments: ProofTechnique, I tend to disagree, although I see where you're coming from. The problem I have is with the way you construe the sentence "a pledge may be considered broken if the pledger does not complete it in a timely manner after it becomes possible to do so." I se

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Pledges

2017-09-23 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 23, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Jack Henahan wrote: > > > My reading of the rules also suggests that a pledge without a defined > completion state may be considered broken by design, and therefore could > be argued to be invalid. > > To use the example which I presume prompted this CFJ, nichdel

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Pledges

2017-09-23 Thread Aris Merchant
Please hang on everyone. I have some brief arguments, which I'll try to post later today. -Aris On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 3:36 PM Jack Henahan wrote: > > Certainly. I'm admittedly a bit new to judging, but I'll read some older > CFJs to get a feel for it. > > After considering a bit further, I wo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Pledges

2017-09-23 Thread Jack Henahan
Certainly. I'm admittedly a bit new to judging, but I'll read some older CFJs to get a feel for it. After considering a bit further, I would amend > precisely because it is impossible to reach a condition under which it > might be considered complete. to state instead > precisely because it is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Pledges

2017-09-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
If you're interested in judging, I'm happy to assign this to you! While your conclusion is still speculative your reasoning so far is solid. On Sat, 23 Sep 2017, Jack Henahan wrote: > My reading of the rules also suggests that a pledge without a defined > completion state may be considered brok

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Pledges

2017-09-23 Thread Jack Henahan
My reading of the rules also suggests that a pledge without a defined completion state may be considered broken by design, and therefore could be argued to be invalid. To use the example which I presume prompted this CFJ, nichdel's pledge > I pledge not to acknowledge any messages Cuddle Beam se

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ

2013-06-18 Thread Flameshadowxeroshin
And I got the numbers wrong yet again. Oh well. On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, omd wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Flameshadowxeroshin > wrote: >> CFJ: Only sentient artificial intelligence systems are second-class persons. > > Note that "person" is currently explicitly defined by th

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ

2013-06-18 Thread omd
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Flameshadowxeroshin wrote: > CFJ: Only sentient artificial intelligence systems are second-class persons. Note that "person" is currently explicitly defined by the Power-3 Rule 2150. CFJ 1700 does not mention root's keyboard; CFJ 1685, which does, was called shor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ

2008-09-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:15 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> UNDETERMINED. Who is to say that this anonymous poster is the same as >> the previous one? > > Presumably only one person owns "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". E could

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ

2008-09-16 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:16 PM, invalid invalid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I call for judgement on the following issue: > { > I submitted a proposal in my recent post > } > > -- Anonymous UNDETERMINED. Who is to say that this anonymous poster is the same as the previous one? -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ

2008-09-16 Thread Ben Caplan
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 03:55:31 pm Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:16 PM, invalid invalid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I call for judgement on the following issue: > > { > > I submitted a proposal in my recent post > > } > > > > -- Anonymous > > UNDETERMINED. Who is to say th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ

2008-09-16 Thread comex
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > UNDETERMINED. Who is to say that this anonymous poster is the same as > the previous one? Presumably only one person owns "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ of pure insanity

2008-01-02 Thread Ed Murphy
pikhq wrote: I Call for Judgement on the following: Dependent actions with fewer than Quorum voters have not been made since clause (a) of rule 955 was made to have its current text, except for the self-ratification of the voting results. Evidence: (a) If there is more than one availabl

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ of pure insanity

2008-01-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Jan 2, 2008 11:13 AM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I Call for Judgement on the following: Dependent actions with fewer than > Quorum voters have not been made since clause (a) of rule 955 was made to > have its current text, except for the self-ratification of the voting > resul

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ of pure insanity

2008-01-02 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 11:13:05 Josiah Worcester wrote: > I Call for Judgement on the following: Dependent actions with fewer than > Quorum voters have not been made since clause (a) of rule 955 was made to > have its current text, except for the self-ratification of the voting > results.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ

2007-12-29 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Saturday 29 December 2007 14:36:45 Zefram wrote: > Josiah Worcester wrote: > >The AFO is not part of the basis of Agora's Child, but is a partner of Agora's > >Child. > > The AFO is trivially not part of the basis of any person, because by > definition the basis contains only first-class pers

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ

2007-12-29 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: >The AFO is not part of the basis of Agora's Child, but is a partner of Agora's >Child. The AFO is trivially not part of the basis of any person, because by definition the basis contains only first-class persons. Did you intend some other term? >The AFO ceased to be a me

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Retroactivity

2007-12-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 19, 2007 5:24 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your beliefs on WALRUS are irrelevant. It is a non-first-class player, and > WALRUS is its name. Eir beliefs are not relevant, but eir context is. If you don't define WALRUS, how are we to know whether you're referring to a pr

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Retroactivity

2007-12-19 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 16:02:43 Zefram wrote: > Josiah Worcester wrote: > >WALRUS registers. > > "WALRUS" does not adequately identify any particular entity, so I believe > that this attempted registration is ineffective. > > >WALRUS calls for judgement on the following (and ask for linked

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Retroactivity

2007-12-18 Thread Taral
On 12/18/07, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You'll be giggling more if you know why I founded WALRUS. ;) I suggest you look more closely at the current Registrar's report. -- Eris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknow

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Retroactivity

2007-12-18 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 22:26:58 Ed Murphy wrote: > pikhq wrote: > > > WALRUS registers. > > Is this anything to do with > http://www.nomic.net/~nomicwiki/index.php/WalrusScam > ? > The name is an intentional reference to that scam, yes. Different usage, though.

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Retroactivity

2007-12-18 Thread Ed Murphy
pikhq wrote: WALRUS registers. Is this anything to do with http://www.nomic.net/~nomicwiki/index.php/WalrusScam ?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Retroactivity

2007-12-18 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 22:14:50 Taral wrote: > *giggle* > > On 12/18/07, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > WALRUS registers. > > WALRUS calls for judgement on the following (and ask for linked assignment): > > It is possible for a game action to take effect retroactively. > > I

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on Retroactivity

2007-12-18 Thread Taral
*giggle* On 12/18/07, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WALRUS registers. > WALRUS calls for judgement on the following (and ask for linked assignment): > It is possible for a game action to take effect retroactively. > It is possible for a contract change to take effect retroactively.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on rule 2159:

2007-12-08 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Saturday 08 December 2007 10:34:56 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Dec 8, 2007 9:23 AM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The AFO causes Agora's Child to submit a criminal CFJ on the following: > > pikhq, as Ambassador, is in violation of rule 2159 by claiming the following > > to be a prot

DIS: Re: BUS: A CFJ on rule 2159:

2007-12-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Dec 8, 2007 9:23 AM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The AFO causes Agora's Child to submit a criminal CFJ on the following: > pikhq, as Ambassador, is in violation of rule 2159 by claiming the following > to be a protective decree to Steve "cheesworshiper" Wallace: "There is now >